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 Posted: Wed Dec 19th, 2018 09:57 pm
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Steven B

Joined: Thu Aug 13th, 2015
Location: Virginia USA
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Exactly Woodie! 
Can you even imagine the damage to truss rods and the underside of the car supports... queen posts! 
Or the brake rigging that I see down there. 
I read an article in an RGS historical newsletter about an Italian immigrant,
who was paid to shovel cars of coal into the pocket at Vance Junction. 
A few bucks a car.  I forget just how much, but it was a pittance.  20-30 ton of coal. 
I was stunned at how little was paid in the 1920s - 30s.  Ugh!

The images in the articles about the Ingoldsby ore cars show cars with steel frames.
These were pretty early 1900s, developed for the C&S. 
Nevada Consolidated Copper was buying them circa 1907. 
Eventually these dump doors were welded closed when a rotary was installed at McGill. 

I don't know how well a wooden car would stand up to a rotary...
although I guess one was used in Monarch on the DRGW,
which is why the sides of their narrow gauge gons got pretty beat up.

The other problem with dump cars was when the ore froze in the car. 
It wouldn't dump.  It kind of hung up. 
Which is why there was a warming house in Blackhawk on the Gilpin. 
I can't recall if there was one in McGill, NV. 
I think one was added eventually, but am not entirely sure.
I do know that at times they would throw a stick of dynamite into the cars,
to break up the ore to dump it at the mill. 
The car department was not fond of this practice.

Thanks for hosting these thoughts Gerold. 
I hope that we are not hijacking your thread. 
I suspect that you are going to be running copper ore trains with your new motor. 
So maybe we are still on topic?


Steven B.
Humboldt & Toiyabe Rwy
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