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 Posted: Tue Jun 5th, 2007 11:25 am
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I like that idea Bob. :thumb:

Heck there does not even need to be a road there...just build an old relic of a pier.



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 Posted: Tue Jun 5th, 2007 11:43 am
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Or forget the road and lay a railway track, build it up then ballast as needed



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 Posted: Tue Jun 5th, 2007 03:28 pm
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Trebor, that's a good idea. It might work. I've been looking at the mess that I have on my hands. I'm happy with the way the boats turned out and I'd hate to put them on a base that kinda sucks. I've been having problems with the base since I started. It's like I had to do everything 3 times. There are a couple things that I'm not real happy with and a few comments that I got about things that I could have done different I pretty much agree with.

Rather than waste more time fooling with something that may or may not work I'm just going to set it aside and start over. Hopefully things will go a lot smoother the second time.

Thanks for all the ideas.

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 Posted: Tue Jun 5th, 2007 07:22 pm
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Hi Dave,

First things first.  Like Hotshot mentioned don't ever trash it!  I would like to point out some positives if I may.

You have presented a  very well thought out diorama with loads of ideas and character.  for example, the same model modified three times, water, bridges, roads, detail parts, methods of rust and paint.  These are outstanding examples and techniques that ALL MODELERS can apply. 

I've built a layout or two over the years and learned several valuable techniques as you presented this thread.

Your diorama is to please only one person.....yourself!!!!!

If someone has a better way of doing something like a road or a bridge who cares?  Are you happy with what you did?  Can you do better with your talent and gifts? Can you gain something from what you've done?  Those are the questions that you can ask yourself in a postive manner.

I remember several years ago when my sawmill was on display at the Great Train Show in Denver back in 1999. A "critic" began to "explain" to his friends who were around him that my sawmill was "totaly" inacurate. After listening to him "point out" all of the "errors" in it, I asked him only one question. Did I build this to please you or did I build this for me?  His friends chuckled as he walked away in a huff.

Your work is outstanding!  Bust most of all, it's your work.  Be proud of it as you should be.

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 Posted: Wed Jun 6th, 2007 03:56 am
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I'm really ok with the criticism that I got. It was from friends. I agreed with almost everything everybody has said. I'm the one that screwed up. So...I just gotta fix it. I'm starting over on the base with some changes and I think it will look better anyway.
Thanks for all the encouragement and advice.

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 Posted: Wed Jun 6th, 2007 11:54 am
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Dave........???

If you didnt like the way the finish turned out on one of your tugs, what would you do??

You'd fix it by redoing what you didnt like.........right?

Now a Diorama base isnt QUITE as critical since not near the time and effort is invested as is generally put into a scale model (unless of course the diorama base is Freaking HUGE ;)  )

Step By Step

1 - Take it outside and blow off the dust & Debris

2 - CLEAR your mind & Take another look at it from all 4 angles

3 - Decide what YOU want from this Diorama

4 - Begin Again as though its existing terrain that you must deal with just like real life!!

5 - Get out your Bulldozer (knife or razor saw) Front end loader (vacuum cleaner) and your surfacing machine (spatula)

Call up the local landscapers to plant your required shrubbery and the fencing company to keep all the little critters safe

While you are doing all that perhaps provide a little drainage for the surrounding area in the form of a culvert & dry creek bed or a wet one...(hmmm graffiti would be nice right here on them Wing walls)....And dont forget the Power Lines...even little people need power ;)

YOUR WORLD>>>YOUR VISION>>>YOUR RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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 Posted: Sun Jun 10th, 2007 12:53 am
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I gave up on the base and started a new one. I made the road area a little higher and sort of a hill so the bridge wont be as close to the water. The tugboat are in the same position but staggered a little more. I made the base 1" bigger all the way around so I have a little more room to work in. Everything is put together and I have some plaster on it filling gaps in the foam and smoothing things over. Now I can start the road and then paint the water. I'm going to use the gravel and joint compound idea for the road. I like that idea. I might try a test of mixing black paint, tallas and plaster and rolling it out with a beer bottle. I should have some pictures in a day or 2.

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 Posted: Mon Jun 18th, 2007 02:01 am
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New bridge.





I took pictures while I was building it.

http://public.fotki.com/DaveInTheHat/davetown/tugboats-along-the-/


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 Posted: Mon Jun 18th, 2007 02:04 am
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Nice bridge...:thumb:



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 Posted: Mon Jun 18th, 2007 10:15 am
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Yeah I like it.

Dave something happened to your link so I went to your album and navigated to the photo set this was in and edited it.

For your reference...when you post a link all you need to do is copy the url and paste it in the thread....the forum software will recognize it as a link with the H T T P beginning and will automatically highlight it as a link for you...no need to add the (url) tags...that just confuses the software which is what I think happened. ;) :thumb:

I like what you did for the bridge foundation there..very effective.



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