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I finished my first tugboat and I've started on another one.

I've done some modifications on the second one to make it look different from the first.

The third one will be a larger diesel tug.





I took pictures while I was building it this:


http://public.fotki.com/DaveInTheHat/davetown/project-tugboat/


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Nice looking tug, Dave. :apl:Great job on the small details.  What scale is it ?

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Nice work.

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That looks terrific Dave. :c2:

Could you tell me what scale that is and who's kits they are?

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That looks great, it would appear there are many parts supplied with the kit,
Please let us know whose kits they are.  Hope they are O scale.

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The kit is made by Lindberg.

The scale is questionable.
I measured it with an HO scale ruler and the hull works out to 85 1/2 feet which is about right for an east coast harbor tug.
The men that come with the kit measure 8'6" tall.
The doors on the cabin measure 5' 7"

The men wouldn't even be able to stand up straight in the cabin.
Even though something is out of wack with the scale on the kit, I think it looks OK for HO scale.
If anything maybe a tiny bit big.


Here's a picture with the guy from the kit and an HO scale guy.





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I am most impressed with this tug boat!  I've had a harbor scene in the back of my mind for some time now.  I did manage to obtain a 1/4" hull from a manufacture and planned on building up the rest.  Very nice work!!!

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Very nice Dave......:apl:.....I agree, it does, It just Looks Right :bow:

Wierd building a ship model when your a train guy isnt it:moose:

3moosies and a passle of pimps:thumb:.....:moose::moose::moose::pimp::pimp:

Ken, if you have the hull, this style doesnt look too difficult to scratchbuild. A few pieces and parts, a bit of scribed siding, a bit of steam for bending scribed siding LOL.

I'm confident in your abilities to do one like this..............In fact, i could see even more detail added to this piece over time and once its in its final setting......you know, the stuff you come back too to Siper detail instead of saying OK my layouts done!! :thumb:

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Wierd building a ship model when your a train guy isnt it:moose:


Yes its a little like building a slot car track:Crazy:

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Ken,

From what I have seen scratch building or bashing is about the only option umless you want to invest over 200 bucks for a 1/43 scale kit...ouch..again great work on that Dave.

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The really weird thing is I'm not really a 'train guy'. I don't even have any trains. (don't tell anybody) I probably know more about boats then I do trains. I like trains a lot, if I had the space and money I'd have lots of trains and miles of track. I like all the other stuff that goes along with having trains. My plan is to build a bunch of dioramas that all fit together. So far it's working ok.
I might add some track soon, I have a factory type building planned.
Thanks for all the compliments.

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LOL!

I don't find that weird at all.

Lot's of modelers like to do just what you are doing.

It's the building of small stuff that they enjoy.


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Dave, I dont find it wierd that you dont consider yourself a " train " guy. You still contribute to this forum by showing other aspects of the modeling hobby. I thank you for sharing what you are doing here. :rah: Great job!!! :glad:

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Thanks for the heads up on the tug, it looks great! :thumb: 

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I guess I'm NOT the only one off on a different tangent.

Good for you Dave!!

Nobody ever told me I was wierd for posting a slot car track in here either, and there seems to be at least a few folks in here that enjoy watching it progress. 

When you build your factory, how about a play by play??:thumb:

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Dave;
You don't have to run trains, here. I've been watching your Diorama building, and your buildings and details look fantastic.
:Woohoo::Woohoo::thumb::thumb:

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Tileguy, I've been doing 'play by play' pictures for a while now. When I build a factory I'll take pictures as I go along. I'm probably going to start with an RDA kit and see what happens.

There's construction pictures for this tug, the one I'm working on now and a couple dioramas on my Fotki page.

Thanks,
Dave

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Here's where I am on tugboat number 2





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The tug looks fantastic I just visited your two sites. Lots of good stuff there as well. Thanks.

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I made a little bit of progress.

All the little things are taking too much time.





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Yeah don't they always...but then..those are what sets the good models apart from the great ones isn't it?

Looks like it is comming along very well Dave! :thumb:

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That is just one outstanding model. Love the pealed paint look. 

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Tug #2 finished.

Time to start another one.





More pictures:

http://public.fotki.com/DaveInTheHat/davetown/tugboat-project-no-2/


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That is just outstanding work!!!!

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Oh yea, She's a Beauty!!!

Ever seen tugs that have Tires roped to their sides??? Ive seen a few pictures like that but I cant find any in my files.

I do however have a photo of a Tugboat Owned by a Railroad.......yep yep yep I do!!!

The Edna G Owned by the DM&IR (Duluth Mesabi & Iron Range RR)

She was the babe of the bay in Duluth and handled the ore boat traffic there as well as two harbors on occassion from what I understand.


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I've seen tires roped to the sides for bumpers. I've seen them cut down and used on the bow too. Tires is one of the details that I wasn't sure about. I may add them when I get the boats mounted on the base.
Those plans look interesting.

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If not tires..maybe some shrink tubing to simulate these would work well.

Some ship builders rope painted black and dusted with bragdon powders would simulate rusted wound cable really nice as anchors for them.

In HO scale you would be able to get away with using thick sewing thread too.

If you wanted to take it even further sierra west sells HO scale clevis hooks ... that would be a little eye catching detail.

Another nice touch would be a pile of rusty chain up near the bow and some rope.

If you have a Hobby Town USA near you I know they have a lot of ship building details there such as rope and chain and detail bits.

Naming her would be a nice touch too...how about..Sophi or Sophia? :P


Don't get me wrong...I think you have done a wonderful job and leaving it as is would be just fine....but you could take it up a notch to yet... an even higher level! :rah: :apl: :thumb:   BAM!! :bg:
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You could also use railway sleepers ( Ties ) as fenders. Quite often used on boats involved with larger ships.

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I'm planning on adding a few more details after I get all 3 tugs mounted on the base and see what position everything ends up in.

I thought about a couple different names, nothing seemed to fit.

Thanks for the great ideas. Now I gotta start the next tug.

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Shrink tubing would simulate the rubber bumper cushion that sits along the entire hull.

Tires can be obtained also by a place called Diecast Direct.... http://www.diecastdirect.com

I picked up tons of 1/4" scale tires from them for both a tug boat and a auto garage.

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Dave, I went to your album and OMG you did a great job covering that build. must be what 200 photo's??

It really shows how much detail work you built from the ground up.....Unbelievable to think there is that Much in one Tugboat model (remember,this is coming from a guy who's never built a boat before)

Truly youve got great VISION when it comes to building these.:bow:

So out of curiosity.......WHY 3 of them ??

Have you a specific Diorama you are contemplating or Something else??:Hmm:

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Dave, I took some time and went thru all your pics for your tugboats and would really like to know how you achieved some of your painting techneques and some of the colors you used. Thanks and trains or not you do some excellent work. Pat

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Hey Tileguy, thanks for looking at my pictures. Between the 2 tugs there are about 150 pictures. I started taking pictures while I'm building about a year ago. I got a really good response from people both new to modeling and experienced. Everybody does things different, so we can learn stuff from each other. I'm on a couple other forums where there's a lot of 'in progress' threads. So many talented people doing so many different things.

I'm building 3 tugs because I saw a picture of one of the tugboat graveyards near New York that showed 2 tugs that looked almost the same next to each other and a third one that was almost rotted away to nothing. I liked the way it looked. Plus, I had 3 models.

I have my diorama pictured in my mind and I think I have a bit of a story line for it. Nothing really solid yet. Things will fall into place when I start working on the base.

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Pat, thanks for looking at my stuff. I start out using Floquil paints. Rust, Refer White, Roof Brown, Grimmy Black, Weathered Black and Engine Black. I also use Folk Art craft paints and washes of black ink. I use artist oil paints a little, mostly after everything else is done to add highlights and cover mistakes like glue and thumb prints.

I posted a rust and dust thing a while ago on my Fotki page.
http://journals.fotki.com/DaveInTheHat/
That should give you a pretty good idea on the paint.

Then tug that I'm working on now has a steal haul. I'm going to try using Sophisticated Finishes. http://www.patina.com/index.html.
I never used it before, so you'll get to see if it works as soon as I do. It cost about $10. I figured if it works cool, if not I'll just sink the tug a little deeper in the water. Water is something else I've never done.

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Dave, I looked at your rust and dust article. Very very good and very effective. Thanks for sharing. 

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Dave, your Rust & Dust Clinic is TOP SHELF!!!!:bow:

I reccomend ya'll weathering fanatics read through it..........Some familiar stuff but some new twists also and very thorough!!!

Thanks for Sharing Dave!!:thumb:

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Thanks for looking. I'm glad you liked it.

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Dave, thanks alot for the link to your Rust and dust how to, very easy to follow and understand, but now in putting it into action might be a slightly different matter all together. I own an airbrush but it is afraid of paint I think because it has never had any in it.
I wonder the lines in the hull are they actual lines or are they the result of your sanding with that real coarse sandpaper?What is the grit on that thing something like 60?  And then a wash maybe? Thanks alot Pat

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I sanded the haul with really course sand paper.
I don't know what the grit is.
Its from a floor sander.

Then I were brushed it with a stiff wire brush that's used for cleaning slag off welds.

It just looked all scratched up so I dragged an xActo saw sideways down the hull.
That created sort of even lines.

Then I cut the end off an xActo key hole saw short enough to fit in a knife handle.
This proved to be really useful in creating a grain pattern in a lot of places.

Works rather nice on wood too.





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Like the idea for the scrathing tool. Not to large and easy to handle and I would imagine it can get into those tight spots.


Ohh  the tugs are coming up a treat

Don

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I like that key hold saw bit idea Dave...good thinking!

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WOW!!  I learned something new today. Every little bit helps! :glad::glad:
Watching Dave build his tugboats (and very well built), and then.......and then....... he shows this great idea about using a  keyhole saw  blade, too.

I am really impressed, Dave. :apl::apl::apl:Keep up the good work.

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Here's where I am on tugboat #3.








More pictures on my Fotki page:

http://public.fotki.com/DaveInTheHat/davetown/tugboat-project-no-3/


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I got almost everything put together.

I still need to do some details and add some kind of molding around the top of the windows in the wheel house.
There's detail painting, some color and a few washes of black and rust here and there.





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Fantastic work Dave:apl:

I can hear the sound if the scrapper sparking the torch now!

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Dave, thanks so much for the additional info. The latest version is looking really nice, I guess the finishes worked, did the little stand come with the tug or is that something you cobbled together? I'll be checking out your other pics right after this. Thanks again, Pat

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Your supplier sent you a perfectly good tug boat kit and just look at what you have done to it.

Great job.

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The stand came with the kit. I glued it to a scrap piece of plexiglass because the stand kept falling over.

Thanks!

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Another Beauty Dave........Now we need a Picture of all 3 together :thumb:

I just ran into your Rust & Dust article on another site ( Fine Scale)

Was very well recieved there also!!:apl:

 

If ya'll havent read it yet, YOU NEED TOO!!!!:bow:

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Thanks guys! I'm at a bit of a standstill until I can replace my air compressor. Hopefully I'll have one in the next day or 2.

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I read it and it is outstanding.  A must read, print, and file to your own personal records.  It is outstanding.

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:apl: I can picture a table with a print, An Acetelyne torch set A Ladder /Platform set up and a couple guys at the print discussing how Best to scrap this Beast......Why can I picture that?? Because I once spent a little time scrapping big hulking pieces of Mining Equipment......... :)

(note) - While we did use Acetelyne on occassion most cutting was done with Propane Torches which required a bit more knowledge & a specific technique......Propane is far cheaper than acetelyne and WILL cut as fast in the right hands..........some of the Shovel tracks we were cutting had Solid Steel Pads 6" thick 8-10" wide and 8 feet long....Each pad was cut into 4 pieces and each cut piece took 2 guys to load!! 1 crew would spend 2 days Per side Just on the one track.

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Check this out.

http://www.undercity.org/photos/Ship_graveyard1/index.htm

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There is a bunch of stuff other than tugs on that site. Go to the Photos. COOL.

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That would be so cool seeing it leaning over to one side, half sunk in a a harbor.  Great model.  Just outstanding!!!

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This would have to be the BEST example of rust and salt water corrosion I have seen.

I just keep coming back to your posts. Fantastic modeling

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I started working on the base for my diorama.


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Oh this is going to be sooooooooooo cooooooooool:glad::Woohoo::glad::Woohoo::glad::wave::rah::wave::rah::Woohoo::glad:

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I agree Ken..I'm liking it already. :pimp:

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:thumb: Been' following your thread Dave, outstanding modeling, fantastic weathering, details, everything. Award winning dio coming together. The addition of the base is really pulling this artwork together. What an inspiration!!:Salute:


 

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I've had a few problems with the base for my diorama. I think I got most of them worked out now.







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I added some yellow and blue to the water so it didn't look quiet as brown. After more stupid problems I got the sand in and the bridge painted. I haven't decided on all the elements that I'm going to use yet. I'm going to start on the grass and other green stuff and make some trees next.

Here's a preview of how it looks with the tugs.



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Out:Woohoo:standing!!!!

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The diorama is coming along. The tugs are great. The water is very good, and the whole scene is fantastic:apl::apl:

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WOW! Dave.....your tugs are simply amazing! Love that rust!

I like the way you are mounting your non-waterline boats in cavities in the bottom of the harbor. Will you permanently seal the boats in place with the "water", or will they be removable?

Stan

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Thanks.
I'm going to seal the tugs to the base with clear silicone before I pour the water. They're not pushed down all the way in the picture. It's a really tight fit in the plaster because of the rudders and props.

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Dave this is turning into a fantastic scene.

Can't wait to see the water in place.:thumb:

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Dave this is a GREAT job of modeling, in ANY medium. :bow::apl::bow:   Thank you for sharing this with us.

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It was suggested (on another forum) that my road shouldn't have seams in it and the color wasn't right. Also, that the sides of the bridge are to heavy looking. I thought about just making a new bridge rather then rebuild the old one, but I figured I'd fix the road first. Thing got really screwed up and the paint peeled off and it messed up the plaster. I'm not sure how to fix it. I'm pretty sure if I try it's going to end up messing up other stuff. I'm seriously considering trashing the whole diorama.

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It would be a shame to see such nice work get trashed

I to get question on some of my choices of who, what, when, how and most of all why.

But it's my railroad but in saying that I'm always open to suggestons to improve.

The main person to make happy is yourself if you're happy it's fine if not redo what you're not happy with.

Cheers Warren

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NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!

Don't ever trash something because someone else does not like something about it.

Heck there are some who dont care for some of John Allens stuff..ahem. ;)

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Don't let the nit pickers get to you.

This person had a veiw which he should have kept to himself.

Ignore it.

The best way to react. Is to not even reply to the post and if that does not work over time, vacate the said forum.

Please do not trash the diorama, just take a deep breath and get on with it.

Don

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I appreciate the comments and criticism, thats one of the reasons I post pictures while I'm building. I had so many problems with this base I thought I was sort of over that.

Anyway, now that the road is trashed, I'm really not sure how to fix it.

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How about some pictures of where it is now,  I am sure someone will be able to suggest some of the options you have.

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Anything can be fixed...it all depends on how bad you want it. :pimp:

Remember...it was NOTHING when you started.

Now, if it is to the point that you are just tired of the problems...( been there, done that and bought the tee shirt )......set it aside and return, after your batteries are recharged. :c2:

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Dave, there are thousands of people out there all with a thousand different opinions. If we listened to all of them and took them as the gospel, we would be tearing apart and redoing our layouts just to keep them satisfied. The only person who has the final say is yourself, so do what makes you happy. This project is YOURS when all is said and done, YOU have to look at it everyday, YOU might as well be proud of what YOU acomplished. The naysayers and nitpickers have nothing to do, BUT look at something they themselves cant acomplish, and then tell you how to do it so they can feel like they have achieved something they never could,in my humble opinion.

I now am stepping off the soap box, and say you have done one heckuva job that you should be proud of. :Salute:

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Dave, Don't trash it. You've done a fantastic job. Without seeing pictures of the damage, it's hard to make suggestions but you might be able to make it an older looking road in need of repair.

BUT, the main thing is to do what YOU want, not anyone else.

Lets get a rope and hang the guy who did this to you... maybe that's a little harsh.

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Here's what I got. Other than starting over I'm out of ideas.

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Get some joint compound, mix in some fine sand or ballast, spread it on with a putty knife (leave some pot holes) paint it flat black, dirty it with whatever. It will look like an old worn out road. Build up some dirt on the sides and plant some weeds.

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I like that idea Bob. :thumb:

Heck there does not even need to be a road there...just build an old relic of a pier.

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Or forget the road and lay a railway track, build it up then ballast as needed

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Trebor, that's a good idea. It might work. I've been looking at the mess that I have on my hands. I'm happy with the way the boats turned out and I'd hate to put them on a base that kinda sucks. I've been having problems with the base since I started. It's like I had to do everything 3 times. There are a couple things that I'm not real happy with and a few comments that I got about things that I could have done different I pretty much agree with.

Rather than waste more time fooling with something that may or may not work I'm just going to set it aside and start over. Hopefully things will go a lot smoother the second time.

Thanks for all the ideas.

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Hi Dave,

First things first.  Like Hotshot mentioned don't ever trash it!  I would like to point out some positives if I may.

You have presented a  very well thought out diorama with loads of ideas and character.  for example, the same model modified three times, water, bridges, roads, detail parts, methods of rust and paint.  These are outstanding examples and techniques that ALL MODELERS can apply. 

I've built a layout or two over the years and learned several valuable techniques as you presented this thread.

Your diorama is to please only one person.....yourself!!!!!

If someone has a better way of doing something like a road or a bridge who cares?  Are you happy with what you did?  Can you do better with your talent and gifts? Can you gain something from what you've done?  Those are the questions that you can ask yourself in a postive manner.

I remember several years ago when my sawmill was on display at the Great Train Show in Denver back in 1999. A "critic" began to "explain" to his friends who were around him that my sawmill was "totaly" inacurate. After listening to him "point out" all of the "errors" in it, I asked him only one question. Did I build this to please you or did I build this for me?  His friends chuckled as he walked away in a huff.

Your work is outstanding!  Bust most of all, it's your work.  Be proud of it as you should be.

Ken

 

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I'm really ok with the criticism that I got. It was from friends. I agreed with almost everything everybody has said. I'm the one that screwed up. So...I just gotta fix it. I'm starting over on the base with some changes and I think it will look better anyway.
Thanks for all the encouragement and advice.

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Dave........???

If you didnt like the way the finish turned out on one of your tugs, what would you do??

You'd fix it by redoing what you didnt like.........right?

Now a Diorama base isnt QUITE as critical since not near the time and effort is invested as is generally put into a scale model (unless of course the diorama base is Freaking HUGE ;)  )

Step By Step

1 - Take it outside and blow off the dust & Debris

2 - CLEAR your mind & Take another look at it from all 4 angles

3 - Decide what YOU want from this Diorama

4 - Begin Again as though its existing terrain that you must deal with just like real life!!

5 - Get out your Bulldozer (knife or razor saw) Front end loader (vacuum cleaner) and your surfacing machine (spatula)

Call up the local landscapers to plant your required shrubbery and the fencing company to keep all the little critters safe

While you are doing all that perhaps provide a little drainage for the surrounding area in the form of a culvert & dry creek bed or a wet one...(hmmm graffiti would be nice right here on them Wing walls)....And dont forget the Power Lines...even little people need power ;)

YOUR WORLD>>>YOUR VISION>>>YOUR RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I gave up on the base and started a new one. I made the road area a little higher and sort of a hill so the bridge wont be as close to the water. The tugboat are in the same position but staggered a little more. I made the base 1" bigger all the way around so I have a little more room to work in. Everything is put together and I have some plaster on it filling gaps in the foam and smoothing things over. Now I can start the road and then paint the water. I'm going to use the gravel and joint compound idea for the road. I like that idea. I might try a test of mixing black paint, tallas and plaster and rolling it out with a beer bottle. I should have some pictures in a day or 2.

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New bridge.





I took pictures while I was building it.

http://public.fotki.com/DaveInTheHat/davetown/tugboats-along-the-/


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Nice bridge...:thumb:

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Yeah I like it.

Dave something happened to your link so I went to your album and navigated to the photo set this was in and edited it.

For your reference...when you post a link all you need to do is copy the url and paste it in the thread....the forum software will recognize it as a link with the H T T P beginning and will automatically highlight it as a link for you...no need to add the (url) tags...that just confuses the software which is what I think happened. ;) :thumb:

I like what you did for the bridge foundation there..very effective.

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You make it look so easy. Nice work.

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That look like it would hold a truck or two. Nice job.

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This is a great project.  I encourage everyone to look at Dave's photo's that he has posted in his link.  True insipration for all of us!

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I made some progress on the new base for my tugboats.

I still have a few more things to do before I can pour the water.

I should have the trees that I made mounted tomorrow.

I have to do some work on the barnacles.











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Underway now. the bridge looks good ( Bit rusty ) has character.

Have you seen the thread on WS water. don't know what you intend using for your water, but worth a look.

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I saw the video thing on the WS web site. I got a bottle of the water and the water effects a while ago. I was going to use Smooth-On clear resin but it generates a lot of heat when it kicks. I was afraid it might get hot enough to mess up the boats.

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I made a little more progress.

The tugs are now mounted with silicone.

I still need to do a few more details before I can pour the water.





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Great progress there Dave. Nice looking work as well. Is this the one you took apart or a new base altogether ? Either way it looks real sharp!!!! :apl:

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I made whole new base. The other one was starting to look pretty rough from doing things over so many times. I still have the first one. I might try and save part of it for my next diorama.

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Looking good Dave...Love that Bridge!!!

Dont forget the flotsam & The Algea/Kelp in the wash area :thumb:

PS: you read Dave Frary warning about WS Water right??

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Tileguy wrote: Looking good Dave...Love that Bridge!!!

Dont forget the flotsam & The Algea/Kelp in the wash area :thumb:

PS: you read Dave Frary warning about WS Water right??


I was going to use Woodland Scenics water. Now I'm not not sure what to use. I don't think I should use anything that generates much heat. I've been told to use 'Magic Water' or 'Envirotex'. I thought about using clear silicone.
Darn, I'm confused now.

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How about Modgepodge Gloss Acrylic!! :thumb:

Stipple it on for light windswept waves....You can buy it in the Walmarts craft section.

They have Modgepodge Gloss acrylic and Matte acrylic (matte makes a good fixitive for scenery ;)

Runs around 5-6 bucks a jug (a pint or so)

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Dave, that is a terrific piece of work.

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Outstanding!  I love it!!!!

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I used "Magic Water".

It works great.

I added waves with "Water Effects".

I'm very close to being finished.





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I give it  :thumb::thumb: and a :Woohoo:!!!   Very well done sir. Was the "magic water " easy to use ?? It looks very realistic.

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Magic Water is simple to use. Mix the 2 parts and stir for about 5 minutes and pour. Mixing it a lot is really important. It's very thin before it kicks. I did have a leak and had to make a second pour over the first. That was the only problem that I had and it was my fault. It takes about 24 hours to dry. When I poured it the humidity was very high and it still seemed a little soft the next day, so I let it sit for another day.

I'm suprised that there are no bubbles. With hand mixing I expected to find a few bubbles but there aren't any. It drys crystal clear too.

I ordered it on line on a Sunday night and had it 2 days later. That impressed me too. I'll definatly use this stuff again.

The "Water Effects" takes a little practice to use. I used a pallet knife and pushed it forward and then dragged the knife backwards to make little waves. It's sort of like icing a cake.

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I'm done.








More pictures on my Fotki page.

http://public.fotki.com/DaveInTheHat/davetown/tugboats-along-the-/


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You surely are; and very well done at that.


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Hey Dave..nice setting for those photos!:thumb:

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Awsome job Dave :thumb:

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just starting to work our way through the site and WOW ! well done ! Seeing the standard of modelling here compared to what we produce almost makes us want to give up, we'll never get that good !

Keep up the wonderful work guys !

D & L

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Hang around here long enough and it rubs off:)

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Thanks for all the nice comments.
For anybody thats interested in how I built stuff I set up journals with pictures on my Fotki page. One for each boat and one for the diorama.

http://journals.fotki.com/DaveInTheHat/



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I just went through the diorama one and it's FANTASTIC. Excellent job!!!!

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DaveInTheHat wrote: The kit is made by Lindberg.
The scale is questionable.

I measured it with an HO scale ruler and the haul works out to 85 1/2 feet which is about right for an east coast harbor tug.
The men that come with the kit measure 8'6" tall.
The doors on the cabin measure 5' 7"

The men wouldn't even be able to stand up straight in the cabin.
Even though something is out of wack with the scale on the kit I think it looks OK for HO scale.
If anything maybe a tiny bit big.

Here's a picture with the guy from the kit and an HO scale guy.





Dave, Could be O scale.
I had up til last year, a 1945 45' Tugboat.
My friend had a 60 foot that was configured exactly like this. Of course that makes the guy under 5' ;)


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DaveInTheHat wrote:






That is just brilliant.
Makes me want another tugboat.


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Great job & pics Dave!

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:glad::2t::bow::thumb: glad it came out beautiful an insperation to us all

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WOW !  :bow:

Brilliant boats !!



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HI Dave, wow awesome build that diorama on the Harbour tugs, I like the way you  modelled the dust affect, sad ending, probably a common place where the tubs end there working life.

What is the idea of the angle decks, be hard to walk up especially in rough weather, did those tubs assist large ships coming into port or mainly used or barge duties around harbour, I have seen in HO scale harbour.

What is your next project or still on going.

Tony from cool down under

 

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The doors on the cabin measure 5' 7"

Doors on ships are smaller than house doors. They have a high bottom edge (someone with proper nautical knowledge please insert proper nautical term), but if you measure from the top down to the deck should be something around 6' something. The painted figure seems to be about right for the ship.
Jose.

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Hi Jose, looks like yet another project in the near future after my Ro, Ro ship build escorting my ship out into the open ocean or Pilot boat .

Keep an eye out on my Camdale post, fingers crossed trains running end of  June early July. depends on how cold our winter days get with the wind s as well..

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did one of those tug boats decades ago. Scale listed on the box was 1/96, so I raised the decks just a little and called it a day.
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