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 Posted: Mon May 21st, 2007 08:32 pm
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:glad::glad::glad: 'I'm finished :glad::glad::glad:

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 Posted: Mon May 21st, 2007 10:44 pm
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So what exactly did you do??

What underlayment did you use??

What type of deflection rating does your subfloor have (dont know?)

ok

Whats the Longest unsupported span of your floor joists?

Are they Doug Fir? (should be a stamp on them)

What size are they?

What is the spacing?

What type of tile did you use? Size?

What did you use for a Thinset?

Did you leave expansion all the way around your perimeter?

Did you leave any expansion joints in the main floor? If so how many and how far apart? What did you fill these with?

Does the area get a lot of daytime sun?

How did you handle your transitions to other floorcoverings?

 

Thats enough for now!! :)



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 Posted: Tue May 22nd, 2007 11:52 am
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Bugger laying tiles. think I will stick to model trains:Hmm:



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 Posted: Tue May 22nd, 2007 05:11 pm
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Tileguy wrote: So what exactly did you do??lay tile

What underlayment did you use??
the good stuff

What type of deflection rating does your subfloor have (dont know?)
have not had the ex-wife over to test it yet

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Whats the Longest unsupported span of your floor joists?
not too long

Are they Doug Fir? (should be a stamp on them)
Connie Fir

What size are they?
About this big

What is the spacing?
Closer then the norm

What type of tile did you use? Size?
Square ones

What did you use for a Thinset?
Speedset.......gotcha

Did you leave expansion all the way around your perimeter?
Almost the same amount in between my Ex-wifes ears

Did you leave any expansion joints in the main floor? If so how many and how far apart? What did you fill these with?
lots of joints and gaps all over the place....that's what that motor stuff is fir rite???

Does the area get a lot of daytime sun?
and some night stuff from the moon too

How did you handle your transitions to other floorcoverings?
1 step at a time

 

Thats enough for now!! :)



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 Posted: Wed May 23rd, 2007 01:13 am
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That was just an example of  the questions that someone at home depot should have asked...................and didnt!!!

I just tore out a 1 month old 3000.00 home depot Custom shower.

Pretty design, nice straight lines, grout looked good etc etc

Not 1 seam was taped

Tile set directly to dimension lumber

No expansion in corners

4" wall tile used on shower floor

NO clue what he used for floating slope to drain in floor.....looked like some kinda gypsum leveler.

Treated Lumber used for curb

The Main reason this shower failed... NO PAN LINER!!!!!

BUT, the Number 1 reason this shower failed

Installer who Lacked the mechanical knowledge to do a proper job but can make it pretty......Because of this he THINKS he's So good he doesnt need to learn!!!!

3000.00 the first time

4000.00 to tear it out and redo it

Look on the customers face when handed the estimate....PRICELESS!!!!



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 Posted: Wed May 23rd, 2007 12:41 pm
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Tileguy wrote: 3000.00 the first time

4000.00 to tear it out and redo it
7000.00 for a shower.... hmmmm... me thinks I would have went with a pro and saved the rest for the beer afterwards.

Look on the customers face when handed the estimate....PRICELESS!!!!          
    That look is about as good as when you tell them it will cost them more IF they help you do the project. :P



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 Posted: Thu May 24th, 2007 02:08 pm
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LOL, I can just imagine that being the case.  My experience with HD and the staff is just about that.  I should be fair and state that that is the direction that most big box retailers have gone towards, not just HD.  I've met some good people there and learned some neet tricks from some real good folks.  The sad thing is that is the direction most retailers are heading in.  Our organization is no different and we are in the medical field.

A very good friend of mine who is into home construction assisted me with this project.  Had it not been for him, I would have been the guy tearing it out again.  I was amazed at the amount of pre-work and planning that goes into a job like this.  I have a small kitchen 10X14 and spent more bucks in all of the prep work then I did in the floor tile.



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 Posted: Fri May 25th, 2007 11:10 am
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An excellent job consists of 10 % planning 70 % preperation  9 % Execution and 11 percent Standing around.

Now the standing around technique is NOT something that should be taken lightly and mastering the technique of standing around takes a lot of practice the point of which is to make the job look exceptionally difficult requiring great feats of mental calculation.

It must appear as if smoke is coming from your ears as your brain works overtime and since creating smoke is impossible the illussion must do.

Therefor...to the technique:

One must stand feet apart at aproximate shoulder width, Left arm across the body with the right elbow resting on the left fist. Right hand stroking the chin while rocking ever so slightly on the ball/heel of the feet...........The rocking is very important since it mesmerizes the observer..........once in a while one must stop rocking very suddenly.............as if something finally came to you. take 1 step forward and resume standing around position.

Using this technique effectively one can make changing a light bulb appear as though it is a major operation.

Lets face it, Professional Help is expensive................we certainly do not want folks thinking that JUST ANYBODY can do it!!! :)



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 Posted: Fri May 25th, 2007 12:33 pm
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:bow:AHHHH THE GRAND MASTER !!!!!:bow:

One addition to the look of looking busy: every once in a while take the right hand away from the chin and touch the tips of the four fingers to the thumb. You look as if you have so many numbers in your head you have to visualize them right in front of your eyes, then place hand back on your chin and resume the pose. Having a note pad to scribble down notes on while you are thinking adds to the look as well as helps you to remember the extra 12 pack you will need for the lake next weekend.



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 Posted: Fri May 25th, 2007 08:07 pm
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LOL, My wife filled that position and got that one mastered, you know, hands on hips, telling me what to do as my knees are killing me.....

No, not that case at all.  Just kidding.

Anhow, here it is.  Small kitchen but then it is just the two of us....

Also added the extra cabinets, cook book slot and base cabinet on the left side of the fridge.  I managed to fine the original v=cabinet maker from 17 years ago, and the cut me a new door so they matched.



 



 




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