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 Posted: Sun Aug 6th, 2017 08:34 pm
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Details, details.

The 7.4v Li-Po battery looks like it's set up as a single cell: http://www.ebay.com/itm/131954568533

I found a 7.4v charger for only $3.51: http://www.ebay.com/itm/142403079909

Figured I could change out the plug if it don't fit the stuff I have.

I really want a 7.4v battery in the shay, instead of using a voltage booster. 

The less stuff I use the easier it is to fit into the shay, and easier for me to wire up.

But, just in case I've a voltage booster coming in the mail.



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" Details, details."



Hi Michael :wave:



Da devil is in dem details. ;)



OK sounds good.

Don't splash TOO MUCH cash $$$ on it though.

This one 'll save you 73-Cents !! :P


$2.78c !


:old dude:


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Si,

Thanks for finding that charger!  :rah:

I'm watching the cost.  I'm still looking at about $25 for everything. 

My thought is that if we can keep the cost low for installing RC then more people will give it a try.  Not just in 35n2 but garden railways to O scale pikes.  Maybe even HO?



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" My thought is that if we can keep the cost low for installing RC then more people will give it a try "



Hi Michael :wave:



Yeah exactly !

My feeling is that if all the microchip crap, costs MORE than the loco ...

... there's something wrong there !!



The other thing is, not everyone is Einstein :brill: when it comes to understanding how to wire it all up !

Books worth of baffling instructions, written for electronics-engineers ...

... to me are not what the average modeler wants to plow through, just to get a train running !!



Decoders, sound-boards etc. often costing as much as $100 are scary for many to put a soldering-iron to !

A £3.84p receiver as far as most will be concerned, is essentially a disposable item.

If you do screw up, it aint the end of the world to just spend a couple more Bucks & try again.

The simple modular approach, easy wiring & 'plug & play' transmitter, should avoid screw ups anyway.



It would be good to have a simple, short & sweet, instructional Thread on how to install the FlySky gear.

Not a load of chit-chat, but just the meat & potatoes, in a short technical Thread.

Might have to write that up, sometime in the future.

At present, I don't see anything like that, for guiding beginners ...

... without all the gobbledegook. :Crazy:





???



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The Future is here now if you desire!

But not if you have to handle all this electronic trickery stuff.

I save my pennies, buy a Deltang or two and maybe a Pololu, solder some wires, get some batteries and I am good to go!.



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Me too.  Vey happy camper.



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" I'm watching the cost.  I'm still looking at about $25 for everything."



Hi Michael :wave:



Thanks for your link to the incredible price on the 'FlySky' (TM) transmitter & receiver twin-pack !

Unbeatable ! :)



I had a FlySky receiver already, as you know.

Also, a different brand transmitter, which I bought for an amazingly low price, to experiment on.



I decided to go with the 'official' FlySky transmitter in the end, so as to 'do it right'.

So my final parts bill for everything, including all P&P and tax, is this :-



£16.49p - 'FlySky' transmitter & receiver.

£2.54p - E.S.C electronic speed controller.

£1.36p - LiPo battery pack.

£0.56p - Regulator.

- - - - - - - - - - -
£20.95p - TOTAL
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Which at $1.31c per U.K. Pound, is $27.44c !! :)

INCREDIBLE !! :bg:



When I first started looking at the price of R.C. parts ...

... it looked like the basic transmitter/receiver & battery components ...

... were going to cost around £100 or way over $100 as you know.



It's great to know that high-quality radio-control CAN ! actually be affordable for all. :thumb:

I hope this will encourage more new comers & 'the kids' on realistic budgets to have a go. :cool:



Pretty easy to understand, as you've found as well.

More or less 'plug & play', with an absolute minimum amount of soldering.

No complex instructions or computer programming needed either.



Way to go !! :!:



















:moose:



Si.



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 Posted: Mon Aug 7th, 2017 06:42 pm
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I know many watch the budget carefully but, the old saying....you get what you pay for.
I have used "RC car" stuff and it certainly works.  The biggie is space and ease of installation.  RC car stuff requires a two cell battery or a step up regulator.  Attached picture shows size difference between smallest RC components and a DelTang board.  The DelTang unit is both the receiver and ESC in one with 5 to 8 channels for lights etc.  DelTang is Spectrum type 2.4 Ghz.  You can use a cheap 2.4 airplane stick or car pistol grip transmitter.  I like the simple little palm size handheld transmitter with direction switch and throttle knob.  
To me the cost difference versus the space is worth the price.  The DelTang board is about 1/8" high.  Adapted gear is 1/2" high.  Volume of space required is at least 5 times that required for DelTang.  With seperate Receiver and ESC you also double the number of wires.

Oh and also, the DelTang is programmable.  You can configure for center off throttle or full range with a seperate direction switch, set the max voltage output, startup voltage etc. Just my opinion...........

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And for those crazy enough to do it...the innards of the "Capt.Kirk space pistol" Xmitter can be put into a "Radio Shack" small equipment box (about 3" by 6") and the pistol trigger can be made to stick out the side or as I did, a lever can be made to resemble something more traditional. The steering crap isn't used but the speed trim knob is used. I put together a 3 cell 11.1 volt Li Poly from small 180MAH cells and all of that fit into the box. Alas, I no longer have the Xmitter since it got goofed up when my motor home (where I lived at the time) developed a leak RIGHT OVER THE WORKBENCH and goofed up the unit! Nope, no photos, etc...but it CAN BE DONE!
No programming or any other hassles, just runnin' a train without wiring! Back then, I used KYOSHO MINI Z RACER ESC/receiver boards which were just as small as the DCC boards at the time. The Losi boards are a bit larger but work the same way.

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" And for those crazy enough to do it...the innards of the "Capt.Kirk space pistol" Xmitter can be put into a "Radio Shack" small equipment box ...

... No programming or any other hassles, just runnin' a train without wiring "



Howdy Woodie :cb:



I bought the 'extra' Capt. Kirk space-pistol transmitter I have, for a possible conversion, as you did.

I thought it possibly might be an interesting controller as well. L:


However ...


Capt. Kirk was no amateur when it came to seeing off those annoying Klingons !

With his hip Hollywood space-pistol in one hand ...

... he could still smoke a big movie star ceeegar, without having to put down his trusty Klingon zapper !! :shocked:



Or when he was model railroading ...

... he didn't have to put down his train controller every time he wanted to uncouple a car.

A obviously clear advantage to space-pistol operations.



When redesigning my DIY train throttle recently, I wanted similar 'slick' operation.

I'd tried power-pack controllers.

I'd tried pots. in boxes.

I can't even imagine how cumbersome a big twin-stick R.C. controller would be !

Nether were at all great for convenient & smooth one handed operation.



You really don't want to keep trying to find somewhere to put controllers down, every time you wanna switch a car etc.

So I totally rethought the whole thing & came up with this.





Not wishing to blow my own horn or anything ...

... but this is just about the most ergonomic & slickest train controller I've ever seen. ;)

( Apart from Capt. Kirks space-pistols of course ! ) :cool:



Not an expensive overpriced commercial product.

But made in traditional DIY styleee, on my kitchen table !

For pennys !!

Now tell me " You get what you pay for ".

Yeah ... Right.

What you get, is what you are TOLD you HAVE to pay for it.

Implying that 'quality' is totally dependent on money, is just nonsense.

Think outside the box.



Smooth one handed operation ...

... the other free for ceeegars, uncoupling & fighting off the Klingon hoards !



:Salute:



Si.



BEAM ME UP SCOTY !

&

OPEN THE POD BAY DOORS HAL !

:P



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