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 Posted: Wed Jul 4th, 2007 01:07 pm
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Woodie.
Could you please check your email address. My emails can not be delivered.
Think I paid my account
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 Posted: Thu Jul 5th, 2007 04:49 am
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Happy Fourth from us in the Big D. Now it's time to get back to "work" and get some stuff finished so I can start some more. This Sunday night at 9PM Central Time in the US, there will be a live chat about r/c going on. I look forward to corresponding with everybody and hope that we can get some info out and have some fun. We will be talking about radio control, but who knows what will happen! Just like they say on the radio-BE THERE OR BE SQUARE- 9PM Central time on Sunday night. To quote the comedian George Carlin-"it's 9PM in Chicago. 8PM in Denver, and 6:47 in Burbank"

            Woodie C Greene-Mogollon Railway, Los Pinos & Madera RR, Boquillas Prismoidal Railroad(monorail), and several nearly bankrupt mining concerns 



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 Posted: Thu Jul 5th, 2007 05:13 pm
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Woody, looking forward to the chat....:bow:will take 1/2 bottle of No Doz & drink a pot of Columbian Coffee to be sure I make it..:cool:

Any Questions on that Photo thing?

I'm keeping my eye out for R/C stuff at yard sales etc. We have a Big Swap Meet coming up in a few weeks that has a HUGE Flea MArket...........I expect to find what I need there for certain...............Now its time to sharpen up the ol Handlaid track skills and get some test track laid!!!:thumb:



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 Posted: Thu Jul 5th, 2007 07:22 pm
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Willowgully wrote: All,
      I was just at Radio Shack and bought a little 1:32 scale radio control Lamborghini model car on sale for $9.95 (was $19.95). The guy said it had speed control but didn't know how fine the control might be. The car also has forward and reverse. For under 10 bucks I figure I couldn't go too far wrong.
     After I open the little car I'll have a better idea of its usefulness.
If nothing else it will be fun to race the car around for a while.

I'll keep you all informed...... Larry T.



hows this coming along Larry?

Incidently, I just checked out the Radio Shack site. They have several other cars but they sort of pair them.These 2 are stocked in most Radio Shack stores

Lambo's mate is a red ferrari

Radio Shack Tech Specs:

Yellow Lamborghinni is a 49 MHz receiver

Red Ferrari is a 27MHz receiver

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 Posted: Fri Jul 6th, 2007 12:50 am
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Go for it! I'm not sure about the "fineness" of the speed control, but it is certainly worth trying. Remember to install this (or any other system) in a well-broken in and good running locomotive, the r/c won't make up for lousy mechanisms or motors. The Radio Shack cars are on 2 frequencies so you can race them without interference. The 27 MHZ range is what r/c car racers use, although their equipment is more sophisticated than the RS cars. 49 MHZ is not used by "standard" r/c stuff like planes, cars, & boats. Somebody got onto me about using air frequencies for my trains, I know the "rules" and besides, air r/c boards have NO reverse, planes don't use reverse. Air r/c now uses fm and that's what I wish I was using. AM is sometimes fraught with interference from household electrical stuff and other "spurious emissions" but so far, I can live with it. I only need to control my locos from 2 maybe 3 feet away, so I keep the transmitter antenna down and haven;t worried about the receiver antenna, as long as the thing works, that's all I care about!  When I was in a modular On30 "club", I was able to control locos from a long distance, but I like to watch the wheels click across the rails from nearby.

I never said that any of this stuff is cheap to do, but when you consider the advantages of r/c over other forms of power, the cost is minimal. Besides, if I was into dcc, I would be spending 2-300 bucks(maybe more) for the basic power unit, if I wanted sound(which I don't), then I would spend 50-over 100 bucks for the board, then I would need all the wire for the layout, all the molex plugs to connect the wires, a couple of brite boys, and a bottle of Jack Daniels to make me feel better when I had a short or the track needed cleaning, or when I had to read an 82 page manual to operate my stinkin' train! Enough of this soapbox, I have some stuff to mess with on this rainy Dallas night. Ya'll take care.

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 Posted: Fri Jul 6th, 2007 05:44 pm
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These guys are uniquely positioned to make something happen here on a manufacturing scale IF they are sharp enough to see opportunity.

http://www.scientific.com.hk/aboutus.php

They sell G scale battery operated train sets AND R/C cars in various scales on a Mass Market basis

ToysR us, Target, etc etc

Will they see the potential? I sent them an email, we'll see if it interests them.

Imagine if they decided to manufacture a simple conversion Kit alone.......Or even decided to start manufacturing an On30 Set to test market.

:Hmm:the possibilities are mind boggeling!!! :thumb:



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 Posted: Sat Jul 7th, 2007 04:26 am
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Man, I wish somebody would make small scale r/c railroad equipment. The technology is there to make even N scale r/c!!!  Don't believe it? My buddy Joe put receiver & batteries in a couple of "head end" passenger cars and wired this up to a Kato F unit and the train ran!!! Now, he got p.o'ed because his N scale club in effect said "that's nice, but..." when confronted with cutting edge technology. Joe is now into On30 r/c and uses 9 volt alkaline batteries to run his stuff and has a ball. He's the guy who can handle 2 transmitters at once and run without problems! I can barely manage to run one loco at a time myself! Yep, it would be great if some forward-thinking manufacturer would take the plunge and make an affordable r/c system for small scale(o scale down to even Z!!), it would change the landscape of model railroading. Yes, I know I'm rabid about this, but since I went wireless, I have changed from just running trains to actually operating trains.

I really appreciate the opportunity to be able to rant and rave about this subject, I believe in it so. Just imagine how many kids might love to mess with model trains if all they had to do is put batteries in the locomotive and transmitter and run a train across reverse loops, passing sidings, wyes, yards, crossovers, and who knows what else with no concerns or problems. Who knows, model railroading might become what it used to be-fun!

See you all Sunday night at 9PM central time in the US. We'll talk about r/c and generally act outrageous!

                         Woodie



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 Posted: Sat Jul 7th, 2007 11:44 am
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Just imagine how many kids might love to mess with model trains if all they had to do is put batteries in the locomotive and transmitter and run a train across reverse loops, passing sidings, wyes, yards, crossovers, and who knows what else with no concerns or problems. Who knows, model railroading might become what it used to be-fun!

 

I couldnt agree more Woody.......When confronted with the electronics & Wiring involved in Model Railroading, Kids are lost and Many Fathers go White as a sheet at the thought of having to build even a small model RR with enough complexity to keep a kids interest up.

Buying a simple circle and watching trains go around is NOT going to keep a child interested for long............BUT, a miniature transportation system with all the imagination a kid has can create a lifetime of interest.

Getting rid of the wiring issue's almost creates awhole new hobby........One that doesnt involve hours of backbreaking work Under the layout Wiring in Feeders and Buss lines, reverse loops and chasing shorts........

Portable suddenly become Far easier.

Lift out bridges for an around the room plan a cinch

Turntables do not need all that fancy wiring

The list goes On & ON & ON of PRO's

Realistically, there are a few drawbacks and R/C wouldnt be all things to all people, But how many are actually going to get to a point where they are interfacing their Model RR with a computer?

Not Too Many!!!

No More Block Control for analog wiring

R/C and Digital technology can STILL be incorporated together IF a manufacturer got involved.

Train Controller can still send signals to a chip to tell it to Ring a bell or blow a horn.

Synchro Sound could Still be used and turned on and off IF battery Sizes could handle Operation and sound for say 3 hours without recharging.

There are a ton of things that CAN be done..........its all possible with the right manufacturer and the right Vision!!



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 Posted: Sat Jul 7th, 2007 03:27 pm
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Tileguy-you're right, the pros outweigh the cons. I have considered the con part and have decided not to worry about them! Someday, things will change...hopefully for the better. I know I can't persuade everybody to give r/c a try, I have an old friend who has built a large HO layout using 1970's technology (dc and blocks) and that's the way he likes it so I won't pester him about this. He has decided that a switcher with r/c would be nice, then he can let the local rip around the layout while he switches cars. He knows that the only thing he would have to watch out for is being caught out on the mainline when the big train comes through. Seems like the real railroads have this worry also!

It has stopped raining here in Dallas and the heat is on the way....finally! My railroad was made to be run in the hot Texas sun so I can't wait to set up and switch the mines while I commune with Mother Nature. You know, r/c has freed me to be able to build a sectional layout that can be set up and running in just a few minutes. Now I just have to remember where I keep the sunblock....

                    Woodie



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 Posted: Sat Jul 7th, 2007 06:10 pm
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As a newbie to the hobby the prospect of using R/C appeals to me much more than any other system I've read about. If it's just a matter of getting the components to fit into small equipment I'm sure that with the will somebody is going to figure out a way. :Hmm:



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