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 Posted: Mon Aug 11th, 2008 03:02 am
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Herb I'm not sure but I'd imagine it's the same reason North American tie plates have ridges on both sides,

to keep things in gauge NO MATTER WHAT.


I don't even want the headache of imagining what would make this into a 5 way switch,

that may just mean too many frogs and gaurdrails, leading to putting your train on the ground-

I know of some clubs where you ante up a dollar to the collective pot when you do that!

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Club policies are why I ain't into clubs.
As Groucho Marx said - "I wouldn't want to be a member of a club that would have me as a member."

Derailments are a part of real railroads, the ones I love had them daily, and knew how to deal with it.
There have been accounts of freight cars derailing while sitting on a siding...
nobody did anything, it just jumped the track by itself!

There's a local club that charges 45 bucks a month, and when I have visited, they have derailments,
I'll bet the club's treasury must be in the thousands...
if they charge members for the problem.

I know that I would be a rich man if I charged my railroad's employees for derailments...
of course the money would be worth 1/32 of real money.
Kinda like what real money is worth right now.

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 Posted: Mon Aug 11th, 2008 09:39 pm
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^^ haha ... yeah !

I use the term club loosely when I talk about the guys I hang with on Thursdays and Saturdays,
operating is informal and we run whatever we want.
It's just for slow paced fun.

:)

The derailment ante is kind of a joke as well,
but any money they can get is greatly appreciated,
as there aren't really any fees to be there.


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That club I mentioned has one of the most screwy and goofed-up layouts I have ever seen.
They have the gaul to charge to be a member,
they should pay members to run trains there!

Oh well, I got my own club, it's about 42 inches long and made of hickory.
Now, if they had somebody like Herb to do their track...oww,
Herbie wouldn't want to be in that club either!

               nuk, nuk, nuk.....     Woodie




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Oh well, I got my own club, it's about 42 inches long and made of hickory.

LMAO!!!

I think that may be my all time favorite response regarding RR clubs!

Going to file that one away for use later...thanks Woodie :Brilliant:



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Woodie wrote "Herbie wouldn't want to be in that club either"

Right on Mr Greene!!!

Had enough rules for one life.


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Herbie that is some real nice work on the four way.

I have to say when I read the title of the thread I thought you got lucky in a TOTALLY different way. :)


I ventured over to the link and was wondering in this picture

http://www.squarewheels.org.uk/rly/1959final/guardInterior2.jpg

What are the green lights for?
That would make for some huge lawsuits around here from people banging their heads and shattering the bulb.
 
Forgive my ignorance but how does a stubswitch work?
And can they be set to work automaticaly, with let say a tortoise switch,
or is it designed to be manual only?
Any info or pictures would be great.

I would love to see the way you make this into a 5 way!

So Woodie how much of the brew had to be used to make such a fine piece of equipment?


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Pat - there may be a way to "automate and motorize" a stub switch, moving the rails is no different than moving points.
A 3 way switch is another matter, and a 4 way...well...

This brings up a point, if one is modeling an old timey railroad with stub switches and link & pin couplers,
why ruin the "effect" by having some modern automatic digital thing to make things work.

I suppose that for a display layout, some sort of hands-off operation may be desired,
but if you are running punky little lokies at home on weed grown track,
hands off means that you are just a viewer and not a participant.
This is only my opinion, I am sure somebody out there has such a layout with automatic stubs,
& link and pin couplers that work by magic.


Stub switches (turnouts) have moving rails instead of points.
There types of switches were outlawed for interchange around the turn of the 20th century as were l&p couplers.
Some railroads used them until the end,
the 2 footer Monson RR in Maine had both until it closed in 1943,
and I recall l&p's on some West Side Lumber cars back in the early 1960's.

Stub switches used with dc or dcc power would need to be blocked and the frog rails isolated for polarity changes.
In some ways, stubs are easier to do than "standard" switches, but in other ways they are a pain in the a##.
Things have to be JUST RIGHT or derailments can occur.

Since I run without track power, life is much easier, I don't need to insulate stuff and cut gaps, etc.
That 4 way of Herb's isn't insulated, it would be a real BEAR to insulate for "traditional" power anyway.               

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 BELG

 a 3-way stub switch example can be seen right  :-

here.



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After seeing Herbs' work,
I don't think they have distilled enough Wellers yet, to make me want to lay something like that. 

We'll see how it works when Woodie starts building the smelter module. 
I think we came up with a plan incorporating the 4-way stub that he likes. 

So stick around for that thread when Woodie starts the smelter module.





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