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I looked but didn't see any particular thread for just railcars, etc. and that may also include strange "critters" and other types of industrial vechicles that run on rails. I know there are many out there who just love this funky side of railroad equipment and hopefully some photos will be posted soon. I have some funkiness that will get posted here-both real and models. See what we can come up with. Anything is "fair game".

             Woodie 

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Great idea Woodie, you've hit upon perhaps my favorite aspect of the hobby!

Here's a few that I have in progress:

My latest railbus, riding on a modified Kato chassis:




Two Japanese railbusses, both built from Aru Models etched brass kits:



The second one has since been modified to run on a Bo-Bo type chassis.

A VW (from Roco) four wheel version:


Another VW work-in-progress, with a mean lookin' plow:


And finally a Mercedes Benz truck mounted on a Kato 11-105 mechanism, with a scratchbuilt baggage/passenger compartment. I call it the German Goose:


They're all HOn30 and all running on Kato 'Pocket Chassis' which are sold in Japan to power I think Bandai shorty train toys, but are excellent for HOn30 modelers!


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A prototype picture of an Australian Rail Motor.

This has been posted before, though it was worth another look

Photograph taken 1939 at Rushworth.

As a youngster I traveled on this often

Its was Black and Yellow stripes. We knew it as the Tiger car.


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^Woah, why the crazy stripes? awesome!

These look great guys!

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As I understand it, the crazy stripes were to make it highly visible to road traffic at level crossings.  It was common practice to stop on level crossing to allow passengers to board or get off. There are reported stops at clumps of trees for a toilet break

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Me again,  just found this link to a coloured picture

http://www.pjv101.net/cd/pages/c455m.htm

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Great idea Woodie, you've hit upon perhaps my favorite aspect of the hobby!


I agree with Cody!!

I really like your new one Cody...great job.

Maybe I should add a spot in the forum just for rail cars, trucks and critters?:Hmm:

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Good idea Dave.

Don't think about for to long it may start to hurt;)

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Dave-it wouldn't be a bad idea! It seems that there is a lot of interest in this subject and it should include "critters" since some guys think railcars belong in that department anyway and not limit the thread to just narrow gauge either. I believe that Model T's were made into locos for NZ railways so there's a railcar/locomotive that is most definately a "critter" and what about Fordson rail tractors? Here in the US (Texas), the Bartlett & Western used a Model T railtruck and Fordson rail tractors to move cotton products up & down the line. When I begin to find photos of all this stuff, they will be posted. So, yes, we may need a section just for this craziness.

               Woodie

Cody-your HOn30 railcars/trucks/busses are just great! It seems to me that you should be able to run your railroad with just what you have shown us. No locomotives, just railcars. What a concept.

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Youn came up with a good idea Woodrow- look at how much neat stuff has showed up all ready!

Wondered for a while about Paladin's avatar, now it all becomes clear. Riding in that thing as a kid, he probably thought that he had been swallowed by a tiger. Trauma like that as a kid would affect anyone. Would make me want to share a brew with a 'roo- - or maybe a gator-------


Later


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Thanks folks,
I agree there are some exellent standard gauge railcars/busses/trucks out there too!

Here's an N scale, standard gauge rail bus I'm building for my (fictional) Black Hills Lumber Co.:

It looks pretty trolly like to me...

-Cody

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Railbus circa 1930.

This is NOT narrow gauge.  It was used in the state of Victoria in Australia where the gauge was/is 5 feet 3 inches.

Texans tell us that bigger is better



The front and hood were painted with black and silver diagonal stripes

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Here are a couple of photos of railcars I have known. The truck was named Little Bill and he went off the turntable before the crew (I) could catch him and became a kit with lots of broken parts.



Little Bill's drive was used to build the current Model T railcar which is still unnamed but very much appreciated. And the new car is watched very carefully when he's on the turntable.



I plan to build more in the future, I can't get enough of railcars. The above cars are 1:32 scale narrow gauge.

                Woodie

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Well done!!! There we go...

This is a model I made from scratch in H0n30. I started with a Roskpof van and made the box entirely in Evergreen styrene. Using a Proto 100 Alco in N scale mechanism. It was think for my CompaƱia Ferroviaria Siete Lagos. Recently I sold this car to a friend... because I like the big scale, so, I am thinking to do a big model in 0n30.

Cheers

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Nice work Lucas. It would be great in On30.

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Beautiful job Lucas!!:glad:

I agree with Trebor, that would look great in On30.

I have a few of the Galloping Geese with the bus body's and I have an old Cadillac
car that I have been planning on doing this with for a long time now.

I hope you follow through and build your large scale version and share with us as you go! :thumb:

Good Luck!

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Lucas-great model! It is really fine when we consider that it is HOn30...truly nice. Many years ago, I built in HOn30. It was a great size and lots of N scale stuff could be used..but now, my poor old eyes need a larger scale to enjoy building things. Goodness, I may get so bad that I will join DW in his 7/8 scale adventure! If I had the cash, I would out-do DW and build a real 2 foot line on my estate. Ahhh, to dream.

             Woodie

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Lucas I think that your railbus is stunning!

Woodmeister-

With 7/8 you could build a cattle car large enough for Peach Head to ride, and join in the fun!
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Herb,

 

Do you have any pictures of your avatar that you could post here?

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I'm sure that I do Bob- let me work on it.


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This car was built in the shops of the East Broad Top Railroad (3'gage) in 1924 from pieces salvaged from an old Maxwell automobile. It was called the "Maxwell car" at that time. It was used at various times in its life for track inspection, telephone line maintainance, payroll delivery, and as an ambulance.

While this is not the best of pictures, it is the oldest know photo of the car in its as built condition



Evidently, the Maxwell engine was not up to the job, so in 1928 the shops replaced the engine and transmission with one from a 1924 Nash auto. We don't know if the Maxwell rear was retained at that time, or not. Because the railroad had assembled the Brill gas electric by this time, the Maxwell became M3 and the Brill M1. M2 was a short lived abortion made from an old street car body, the less said about this the better, as it was a total failure.
The M3 ran when the railroad shut down in '56, but was finally  rendered non operable by people fooling with it that didn't know, or care, what they were doing.

Unfortunately, I don't have access to a picture of the car prior to the restoration.

A couple years ago, a plan to restore the car, at no expense to the railroad was made by volunteers. While many people lent a hand, the major part of the work (and money) was provided by Larry Freeman, Charlie Wooten, and myself. The car was brought to Larry's shop, and the engine transmission and rear to mine. Everything, and I do mean everything, was rebuilt or replaced.

Engine installed, and new pilot made- taken in Larry's shop



The controls



More pictures of the rear axle rebuild, which had been replaced sometime after the Nash parts were installed, are at General Talk, under the "Oh dear- what have I got myself into" thread, by Yetter_man.

Finished, at the EBT



Coming back to the station after the maiden run. I had the honor of being the first to run down the 7 miles to the picnic grove, and back



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^Woah, i was 100% sure that your avatar piccy was a model! Nice :)

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Thanks Herb. Great pictures. I thought it was a model also.

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Here are a couple of more photos from Railroads of Nevada. The first is the Eureka & Palisade railcar, a 3 foot gauge piece of work.



Here is something. It's not really a critter, but Mudge will like it. A standard gauge McKeen car from the Silver Peak RR. This one is a short 40 or so footer and has cooling coils on the roof because it uses distillate to run and it needed to be kept cool in the desert heat.



More will usually follow... Woodie

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Make me the third who thought so.:bg:

It SHOULD be a model....Hmmmmmmm.

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OK Dave, why don't you make a model of the M3? It would still be little even in Gn15.

                 Woodhead

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Looky what i found!



It's JR Hokkaido's DMV running on a small portion of the Senmo Main Line, from what i'm told.

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Now, here is something quite cool. My friend Jim Cooke built this Brill railbus in HO using a Jordan (Highway miniatures) plastic kit which is unobtainable now. The car is dc and is powered with a NWSL "flea" drive. Jim installed a complete interior with a bunch of Preiser figures. She runs great and when Jim takes it to the "club", everybody crowds around to watch her run. Sorry the pix isn't in color, but that just adds to the atmosphere. Bill (Mudge) took the photo some years back.



Sorry, the little photo got posted also. But that's life.   Woodie

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All fixed Woodie.

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OK then, shall we continue? Here are some more "vechicles" that may or may not be online elsewhere. However, here they are just for you'all.



The above is a Missouri, Kansas, & Texas inspection car which was powered by a vertical boiler and probably a single cylinder. Mudge told me he made an HO model of this back in the 50's.



Here is the Tijuana Taxi which probably provided a nice, airy ride across the border.



The Unitah Railway had this cool superintendent's car obviously made from a Model T with a neat chain drive to the rear wheels.



And another one from the Uintah Railway, both these cars were 3 foot gauge and great examples of what a dedicated shop crew could do with a little imagination. Maybe somebody will build models of these railcars, I know that I would love to .

                     Boudreaux

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Modern day China:



Didnt one of our German members modeling Romanian logging have something similar? :)

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Woodie that MK&T #2 inspection car is very cool!!

Thanks for sharing that.

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Here's one from Syria, any idea what it is? The full article can be found HERE.



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Judging from the windows and the center door it looks as if it got hit front and rear by something square.(_!_)

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Never look back...something might be gaining on you...my favorite quote from Satchell Paige

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Jake-I know what that is...it's some real funkiness!   Woodie

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Whilst checking out some industrial archaeology websites, I came across this link:

http://www.mylearning.org/image-zoom.asp?jpageid=769&picid=2

It's a photograph of a steam tram, built in Leeds by Kitson. They supplied similar trams to a number of cities in Britain, Ireland and elsewhere.

I don't know whether you'd call them critters - they certainly weren't mainline - but they've always fascinated me anyway!

Regards,

Huw.

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Good golly Miss Molly!

That thing deserves inclusion in any critter discussion just on it's funkiness!

That's funky, with a capital F! 

Wonder if they issued gas masks to the passengers on the upper deck?



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ebtm3 wrote: Wonder if they issued gas masks to the passengers on the upper deck?

No, but the front ends of the upper decks had screens, to stop soot landing on passengers.

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The requirement for screens at the front of steam tram trailers was just one of a whole collection of regulations that British steam tram operators had to obey.

Quite a few of them seem to have been devised specifically to ensure they could never be viable.

Some were so ridiculous that they even passed into folklore - 2mph speed limit in towns - having to have some guy walking in front, carrying a red flag - a maximum of 2 trailers (which was why double deck, bogie cars became popular) - plus onerous requirements about steam and smoke emissions (which was why lots of them had roof condensers and ran on coke).

All in all, the only people who really stood to gain from this nonsense were the owners of horse tramways.

Rules on mainland Europe seem to have been a bit more sensible, with the result that steam trams got bigger and lasted longer. Here's a link to footage of a restored steam tram in Bern, Switzerland:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iax79ezuQPM

I'm not sure about the fake sepia effect and Scott Joplin soundtrack - but they're novel.

As for models, steam trams have been neglected by RTR manufacturers, especially in Britain. (I think you can safely ignore the toys with no interiors - but with silly faces, aimed at Th*m*s fans.)

For O-16.5, there are some very nice card kits of Kitsons, produced by Alphagraphix. Other than that, British steam tram modellers are abandoned - I'm sure there are commercial reasons, but it's very frustrating.

I guess I might end up scratchbuilding!

Regards,

Huw.

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Huw-see if you can find a Grandt Line STEAM DUMMY kit. This fine O scale superstructure is made to "cover" their On3.On30 Porter locos to make them more acceptable to "city operation". The dummy looks pretty much like the British tram lokies and may just be what you want. Also, the old San Francisco cable car in O scale is available again from Lindberg. You can find these by Hawk & Testors on the old kit tables. These kits can be "bashed" into a fine representation of a tram also.

In my scale, 1:35/1:32, Airfix made a beautiful old double decker bus used in WW1 London which can be used for this tram, but alas, there is no "dummy" body made in that scale.

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Huw-

A lot of interesting facts there, particularly since for years I have modeled American trolleys (your trams) in 1/48, even at one point making and selling white metal body kits. Getting away from that now, more into heavier electric and getting into R/C steam and diesel.

Thanks for sharing!


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Gentlemen,

Thanks for the helpful comments.

As you might have guessed, I've been doing some reading about steam trams (hence the stuff about the Locomotives Acts of 1861 and 1865). In fact, I quite enjoy this research stuff (and it comes a lot cheaper than messing up kits - but that's something I'm going to have to do sometime).

Thanks also for the kit suggestions. They look right up my street - I think I might be looking out for places in the UK that sell them.

I've also wondered about the Airfix "London B Type Bus" kit - as the basis for a railmotor (in a similar vein to Shefflex, Tartary, Verney or Irish NG). Not viable at present, as the kits aren't in the shops - but they re-release them every so often, so I'll keep my eyes open.

In case you're wondering why I've heard of the French companies, I'm currently re-reading this book:

The Light Railway Railcar in Western Europe  by  WJK Davies  ( Plateway Press - ISBN 1 871980 52 6 )

There'd be enough ideas in this book to keep me quiet for decades. I particularly like the scale drawings.

Rather neatly, it also brings us back to that lovely restored railmotor earlier in the thread.

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Huw.

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Just looked at the video again, and noticed the sign (I know what it means) between the tramway name and the coach number.

I usually can provide that service, when called for--even when not called for! :w:


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intersting stuff about the 4 cyl maxwell engine originally installed.

The 1916 thru 1925 maxwell was all the same thru those years. Chrysler  bought maxwell in 1924 and used that same 4 cyl motor in various chrysler models 1925--1928.

They changed the motor slightly for the introduction of the 1928 plymouth and that lasted until 1932 when the 4 cyclinder production ended.

The cylinder head gasket for all these years is basically the same with the exception of the size of a few water jacket holes , the cylinder bore remained the same. The 1929--1932 plymouth for some reason had the cylinder head rounded off on the top corners.

This info is from my prior life as GASKET KING COMPANY LIMITED specializing in 1909--1950 cylinder head gaskets , new original old stock.

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Mike~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Do you have a head  gasket for a 1997 Plymouth Voyager SE It's a little bit later than the mode;s you mentioned but you never can tell.

Just letting you knowyour messages are being read by all and sundry.

Cheers,

BC or muj

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Sorry Mudge, i only carried headgaskets for the years 1909 to 1950 only.

What you want is available thru any auto parts jobber or store....pep boys and all those.  If you can get it easily over the counter, i would never come into your field of vision.

Its only when the parts guy looks you directly in the eye and laughingly says......."YOUR ASKING ME FOR WHAT YEAR" , then and only then would i possibly be your supplier.  Heck i did not even carry 1909--1950 ford gaskets because you could still get them over the counter.

I sold my complete old inventory of 30,000 + cylinder head gaskets in 1989 to a guy from port orchard washington, he became the new Gasket King and i retired at 44 years of age.

mike

 

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Mike~~~~~~~~~~

I was KIDDING!

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Awwwww, Muj-you never kid anybody! You better watch out, I will post a photo of your new T shirt en Espanol.....Say goodnight, Gracie.

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well, mudge, your old enough to remember seeing a lot of the cars from the 30's and thats a good thing.

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Yep, Mike~~~~~~~~~

My ole brain processor doesn't work for the last 20 years but it's razor sharp for everything before that. I remember riding in Franklins and my Dads church puchased an old Chandler. I can barely remember our family had a horse (and stable) for the family buckboard. Others were Brushes (not running) and a Maxwell or two and of course Model Ts. A friend and I twice drove a 1915 T from Waco, TX to Alaska and back for the newspaper story but that was shortly after WWII. Both times we had enough parts to build one if needed. No Stanley Steamers but there was a Doble and I was given a White electric from a very old lady who had been a family friend for years. That happened during the war when gas rationing was in vogue. In mint condition,too. Planning ahead, I drove it in two days to Bonham TX where I was a flight instructor for WWII Aviation cadets and then kept it running around Bonham for a year. A real blast. Never ran out of electricity. Built my own charger. My first car was a1940 Ford 60 business coupe but due to the lack of anti freeze I had to cobble two water punp impellers from aluminum to replace the Bakelite ones chewed up by the ice in the cooling system. Them were the days! Willys Knights, Oaklands, Mack solid tired trucks and of course all the Reos, Chevtolets, Cadillacs, etc. I have skipped around in time but....

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damn......you rode in some great cars.........how about some of these, ever drive one or ride in them ??

auburn.....cord.....duesenberg.....cadillac v-12 or v-16, marmon 8 or v-16....graham paige...pierce arrows....hupmobiles...big 8 cyl studebakers.....durants....packards anything pre 1936 v 12 or straight 8.........moon...star....locomobiles....Duponts....

steam cars........jay leno would talk to you about them for hours, they are are his favorites.

mike

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Mike~~~~~~

Surfing through some of the older articles, I finally read one of yours in answer to my message about being old enough to have ridden or driven some fairly old machinery.

Graham Paige...yep...one of my favorite cars...I think it was a 1940 4door a rich cousin of mine had bought for the servants to use for whatever needed doing around the house...cooking, etc. I dated in it and used to JUMP the local railroad track...I practically trashed the car unknowingly being only 17 at the time and newly provided with HER wheels.

Another friend had 2 Cords...both being restored. One was a closed car with an additional trunk on the back...I think called a Berline...the other had no trunk. We finally ran both. As I remember they both had Continental engines. Were they stock? 

With time I'll tell about our 2 trips to Alaska in the same 1915 Model T. Wild times. Even right after the war (WWII)many miles were very little more than 2 muddy ruts where the perma frost had gotten soft.

BC

     

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Bill, if it was a 1940 it would only be a graham...........the graham - paige name disappeared around 1930-31.

For 1940 the graham would have looked like a 1936--37 cord  last years of production, because they bought the tooling from cord and continued with the body style until their end in 1941.  The hupmobile car line also disapeared in 1941.  The pierce arrow stopped production in late 1938 selling off its v-12 motor and transmission too american lafrance fire engine people.  The Cadillac LASALLE dispeared in 1941.   The lower cost nash lafayette also disapeared in 1941.

There would have been some great rare cars still running in 1941 but grabbed for scrap to shoot germans or japanese.

 

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Sorry, Mike~~~~~~~~~~~~~

You forget that my memory is sadly distorted or non existent. I do remember that La Salle and Cadillac both were built into, but not including all of 1942...then production continued slightly longer for the big brass. My cousin in Ft Worth bought one each 42 La Salle and Cadillac...in fact they bought the last Cadillac limosine. Also the Graham...they simply kept on calling them Graham Paige out of habit. They had the slope forward grille that, at the time made it look like it was going 120mph. This one was white. You didn't mention Oakland, the cheap (?) Pontiac. I saw the last one at the 1934 Chicago World Fair.

I finally drove a Raymond Loewy Studebaker convertible a pilot friend of mine bought when he got married. I never saw but his one convertible...few and far between...I still like the coupe version as one of the beauties of all time. NOT that damn Avanti that came later. Argh.

I rode in any number of those I mentioned in my first message...Chandler, Franklin,Whippetseveral others of earlier vintage that memory prevents me from citing. With my family we drove all over the US in Chevrolets bought semi annually from about 1925 or 6 until the War. I remember the ruckus caused by the introduction of the first Model A.

Clincher rims...wooden spokes you had to se

t in a creek once a week to keep them from creaking around corners. Telescoping running board luggage carriers. Five in my family, each with his own pillow to sleep on...I had to sit on all that were not in use, but that was the only way I could see out of the car. I have picture of some of us before leaving for various destinations. Yo Semite (Spelled that way in 1931) and Mariposa Grove where we had our picture taken with my Dad's Autograph super folding camera (616 film) Verichrome (red first time

didn't fotograph black.) sitting in or under the famous redwood tree that you could drive through.  

Puter coming unglued. Later.

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sorry mudge........lasalle was dropped at the end of 1940.  The oakland was dropped at the end of 1932 and only the cheaper sister in the line , pontiac was still around. That year pontiac had the optional oakland v8 available and pontiac would not have a v8 available again until 1955.

The 1934 chevrolet had a production line running at the chicago worlds fair and you see people selling those old commemorative pin buttons on ebay.

I also still see those stretchcie running board luggage racks on ebay for the 1931 and down cars.  More popular was the stamped steel bumper mounted rear luggage rack of 1928 and up too 1936.  My 1935 chevrolet has one.

lots of great car names disappeared from 1930--1933 as the depression really took hold.  marmon...chandler...viking..marquette...franklin...whippet...overland..and more.

The war www2 killed off the rest of them that were not strong enough to make it start up production again in 1946 .

one of these days i will get to southern california and visit one of the giant car museums and view all the golden oldies.  But you got to see them in real time, when they were running around, not parked in a spot neveer to move again.

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Mike, you are WRONG when you say LaSalle wasn't made into 1942. Cadillac and Buick also lasted into 1942. It's appalling to me how many modern day "historians" write and publish so many errors in what they write. I can also state categorically that I SAW what was an Oakland on the floor of the GM building in Chicago in 1934.

I can assure you that while the stroke took out part of my memory, it did NOT affect much before 1955...then it gets spotty and comes and goes, too.

I was 11 yearas old when I saw the Oakland...sitting on the Pontiac display area. Whether there was anything telling the public this was it's last year or whatever, there it sat.  BTW, the 1933 Century of Progress was held over and presented in 1934, due, I heard, to the volumn (sp)of attendees the year before. 

And I was 20 years old in 1942 when I was instructing Air Corp Aviation Cadets how to fly when I was seeing my cousin's 1942 LaSalle business coupe and driving it on occassion in Ft Worth and also seeing the Reimers, (that was their name) in both 1942 business coupe and limousine made by Cadillac. (Fred Reimers was Fred Weyerhauser's half brother and both were in the lumber business). My Flight Commander (flying) also drove a 1942 Buick convertible.

I had my White Electric at that time plus I was part owner of a Mercedes cast off of unknown (to me) origin. I knew it was rare but I found out much later, how rare. It was an SSKL, one of only 7 ever built to race by the factory. Burago made a model of it, indicating it was a 1931 version, and was 1/18th scale. When I discovered how rare it had been, I tried to track it down but the other owners had died or disappeared. I had sold my interest out when I bought the first car I ever owned completely (except the White), a 1940 Ford 60 business coupe which I mentioned in a previous message.

Drat! I just realized this is NOT a PM. I'm too old to rewrite it as one.

My apologies to all you folks who don't care about my ancient adventures.

 BC,Texas and Tehuacana RR Curmudgeon 

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MUDGE , don't get your Texas flagged THONG in a knot.   

For 20 years i ran a business called GASKET KING COMPANY LIMITED, i specialized in acquiring and selling New Old Stock cylinder head gaskets from 1909 to 1948. For cars , trucks , tractors, motorcycles, marine engines, farm lighting plants, one cylinder hit and miss engines and one airplane .

I owned every gasket manufacturers ( Victor...McCord...Fitzgerald ) application book ever produced starting in 1922 and generally produced and sent to parts stores carrying their brands , every year right up until 1940 .

Sorry to say this but yes your memory is playing tricks on you. Lasalle---the cheaper cadillac ""Lasalle"" was discontinued in 1940.  I suggest you type 1941 lasalle into your search engine and see if you can come up with one.  I had a 1942 issue of the victor gasket catalogue and no mention of a 1941-42 lasalle

Also production of the oakland was discontinued in 1932.  Again search the net to see if you can locate a picture of a 1933. None of my 3 gasket books produced and printed in 1934 ever showed the oakland as being produced in 1933.

The mind is a funny thing and it can easily trick you into believing what you have somehow embeded into your memory banks, after all we are talking about events that occured 76 years ago.

Speaking of which , i was in a conversation the other day with a long time friend who started telling me all about our weekend 3 day trip to michigan and ohio back in 1980 to visit various people to purchase engine gaskets from them , using my 1975 el camino 454 SS one of the last ones made with that motor available.  I have ZERO memory of him being on that trip with me, but yet he related events that happened and the people we met and gave money too that i DO remember. 

 So it would appear that we have SELECTIVE MEMORY of events and history , yours slightly worse than mine.

Hey tell us about those great cars of the 20"s you may or may not have driven yourself opr been a passenger in.   Now about that trip to alaska in a 1915 model T ford.....care to expound.

 

I was just re-reading your reply and the 1940 ford 60 had me shaking my head...whats a 60 ?...i just remembered that was last year for the very small 1937--1940 ****60 HP v8****.. I had a 37 ford 2 door sedan V8 60 hp from 1964--1967. It was called the BAD BANANA, because it was banana yellow and it was real quick.  It had a 312 cubic inch  57 ford T bird motor that was overbored 90 thou ?? with a 3 speed borg warner trans.  My first hot rod.  People locally still ask me about that car and where it could be .?



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Here is a gas car used by the Victorian Railways in Australia. It was built on a chassis of a British AEC bus. It has a 4 cylinder Tylor engine.



And here is a model of the same vehicle. They often pulled one or two trailers behind them. The model is powered, in HO scale, and comes complete with a single trailer.


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HollywoodFoundry wrote: Here is a gas car used by the Victorian Railways in Australia. It was built on a chassis of a British AEC bus. It has a 4 cylinder Tylor engine.
And here is a model of the same vehicle. They often pulled one or two trailers behind them. The model is powered, in HO scale, and comes complete with a single trailer.


That's what I call a railbus - and (dare I say it) a "Regal" model.

Decades before my time - I doubt if many survive - but it just oozes character.

All that's missing now is a blue triangle.



For anyone who doesn't know what I'm talking about, AEC was originally set up by what later became London Transport, to build most of their buses - hence the red roundel design. On later vehicles, this roundel was often incorporated into a blue triangle, pointing down towards the centre of the radiator grille.

There were actually a number of name changes, as a result of mergers - there were also a number of changes in their logos. Eventually, the name settled down as AEC (short for Associated Equipment Company, with the logo being some variant of the roundel in a blue triangle - in some cases, silver wings were added either side of the triangle.

Most of their buses had names starting with "R" - single deckers called Regal or Reliance - double deckers called Regent or Renown. Trucks usually had names starting with "M" - Matador, Mandator and Mercury being well known examples. There was, however, some blurring of this - some specialist trucks were built onto bus chassis.



This wasn't the only AEC to find its way onto the railways:

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h313/Railcar22/Railcar/000_0005.jpg

http://www.aecsouthall.co.uk/shunter/00_shunter.htm

http://www.mareebaheritagecentre.com.au/rail-ambulance.htm

AEC ceased trading a number of years ago (mainly due to the same political interference that ultimately destroyed Bristol Commercial Vehicles and Eastern Coach Works). A number of groups and websites have since sprung up, in an effort to keep the company's memory alive - anyone interested in finding out more about the company might wish to check the following links:

http://www.aecsouthall.co.uk/

http://middx.net/aec/bb/

http://aec.middx.net/page1.htm

Anyway, I think I'd better sign off now, before I send everyone to sleep!

Regards,

Huw.


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The Victorian Railways built the AEC rail buses in around 1920-25, in all 19 were built at the Newport Workshops. They were a quite successful design, tthe last one being taken out of service in about 1956.

I was fortunate enough to have crawled around No.9 when it was on show for the Victorian Railways centenary in 1954.

None have survived into preservation, although one group is convinced there is one out there somewhere.

 

 

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The link in Post 14 is dead.

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Kent, sorry about the link in post 14 by yetter man...unfortunately, yetter is dead also...happened a few years back. He was a nice guy and left far too early. Maybe we can help, what are you looking for?

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The Eritrean National Rwy. being the only one in the world without a regular schedule - have some interesting critters. Have a look at the next picture, too. BTW, if you're pondering to visit - Eritrea's also called Africa's Northern Corea...

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This one would make a nice model.
This one, also off the beaten track, is interesting. Those Brits were always good for an interesting surprise.

Wait...this one is hard to beat.

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That vertical boiler job is essentially your basic very early Class A Climax.

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Here is an On30 model T conversion I did a little over 40 years ago ( Hey - where did all that time go?)

A Matchbox Dicast car motorised with the motor and gears from a EggerBahn loco - originally this had Rivarossi steamroller wheels but I replaced those on the front truck with Kadee's and turned the rear set down a little





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This is one I started for my Gn15 line. It is a die cast Model T with trucks under it. Will be RC.



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I made this a few years ago for my On30 line. The power is in the trailer, and it runs with DCC.
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I made this a few years ago for my On30 line. The power is in the trailer, and it runs with DCC.
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Nice one.

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Here's one of ex-Mogollon Railway supt's Model T now operating on the Silver City NG. Shown here on Pinos Altos Creek trestle rounding Hairpin Curve. This car is powered by an old Grandt Line "Micro-Mo" drive and r/c. She's been around for about 10 years.

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1/35 is just the size for doing something like that.

I like it--although I think I said that before.

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OK then, here's another rail bus. This one is On30, owned by David Cox. Built from a Russkie bus that had to be smuggled into the US from Aufgotchastan. Powered by an old Sagami (or Zucinni?) can motor with drive from a Bachmann On30 rail truck. Oh yes, this one is r/c with onboard battery...no worries, no wires to the track!



The thumbnail view is because I had to snarf it from his gallery to my post and, you know...s%^t happens!

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Here are larger pics of railbus.  Woodie did mod. Dave C. 



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That was a fun little project. The hood & main body is die cast metal, the underframe & roof are plastic. BTW, the lead truck frame is from 60 year old Mantua "Belle of the Eighties", the spoked wheels are PSC, and the rear drivers come from a Bachmann On30 Climax. How's that for "bashing"?

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" Anything is 'fair game'. "

Just quoting Woodie :cb: from page 1

;)

This funky-junk just mighta been up before ... somewhere here ?

Anyways ... I LIKE HER ! :P



This wasn't developed by NASA for the space-program & was never planned for use on the moon.

:moose:

Si.

I like the simple steel-frame.
What look like 'speeder' type wheels.
Homebrew 'trucks'.
Funky truss-rods.
&
Simple bodywork/engine enclosure.

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Wow...that looks like a tiny Brookville critter superstructure sitting on a log car with 2 push car "trucks" underneath. A most interesting and highly model-able little doo dad. OK, who'll be the first to build one? DOUBLE DOG DARE!!

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I like both, but, having spent 72 years with model A Fords I have to say I like the little one better!

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Hi Herb.

I know you like colour pix. for reasons of livery & weathering etc.

So I thought I'd do a suggested painting guide for the B&W Cadillac in post #37.

Wheels - Rust.
Engine - Flakey Rust.
Chassis - Dark Rust.
Bodywork - Streaky Rust.
Exhaust - Rust.

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Fitting!

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Not sure if this will not have been posted already but if you think four wheeled rail buses are a thing of the past then have a trip over the pond.

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_142

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A Dodge rail inspection car used on the Silverton Tramway.....Peter

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Those skirts filling in the front wheel arches must make changing a flat (puncture) a lot more difficult!

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Yeah Herb,checking the tyre pressure would have been a pain as well:us:....Peter

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I never realized rail wheels go flat. ;)

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Only at the bottom where they bump into the rails :P
L: Yes at a microscopic level there is some flattening due to deformation of the wheels caused by the weight of what is sitting above them. The rails also deform slightly under load as well.  
Herb? Got that air pump handy??

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Hi all,
I suppose that this standard-gauge Buda fits here as well? Yes it looks like a truck and it is on rails


One from the Canadian timber industry - Port Alberni, Vancouver Island, BC. Photo was in September 2013, just after the Buda had been restored and repainted. 
More information at on it and an unusual looking gas-speeder at http://www.alberniheritage.com/image-gallery/term/sub/882



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never realized rail wheels go flat.

Oh yes they do!. Usually after a hard braking...

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I don't fancy riding on a TGV with a loada flat-spots :shocked:

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Yes, trains do get flat tyres A diesel locomotive on a tourist railway near me was taken out of service due to eight flat tires.The tires were so badly worn they couldn't be profiled. The wheels needed new tyres but the cost was prohibitive.Unfortunately the tourist railway is no longer operational.:bang:............Peter.

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Should have ran them here--round them right up




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pipopak wrote: never realized rail wheels go flat.



Oh yes they do!. Usually after a hard braking...


Yep, didn't UP 844's wheels develop flat spots on one occasion?

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Help needed to find Large scale County Donegal Railcar kits ( G scale if Possible) can anyone point me the right direction please.

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Check here:
https://www.gscalecentral.net/pages/home/
Seems that at least there are drawings.
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Looks like they're still converting trucks for dedicated use on rails:



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Nice find Eric :2t:

Must be a long distance version - it has a sleeper cab?

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oztrainz wrote: Nice find Eric :2t:

Must be a long distance version - it has a sleeper cab?

Maybe they store equipment in there, I dunno.

Even if it was purchased new I'm sure it was a heck of a lot cheaper than a locomotive and extra room was just a bonus.

Anyone know which railroad owns that thing?

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Lokks like somebody's garden railroad, judging from the photo;)
Isn't that stacked firewood on the car?

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Who remembers the Rail Truck in Mad Max:  Beyond Thunderdome?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfwNkHTm8SM



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Must be a long distance version - it has a sleeper cab?

Maybe that's where the driver sleeps when running on cruise control:glad::):old dude:...Peter.

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Two more European VW Van rail cars;



and my favorite that I've come across, the Mini, in Canada, I hear they have used quite a few Mini Coopers for rail inspection cars, over the years!

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The 1st & 3rd images are CLEARLY MARKED with Copyright-Details !


You need to edit them out of the above Post


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You need to edit them out of the above Post

When I post pictures I put the link to the pic, not the picture itself

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Sorry I had saved the photos some time ago, and didn't think to save the original links, they were found off Facebook. I see they are gone now, sorry for the indiscretion, no malcontent was intended.

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And the remaining photo is a fake Photoshop job I'm afraid.

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What ... You mean ... Like this one ! ;)

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The damn things drive like BOATS !
I figure putting them on rails is the best thing for 'em !!
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Spanish, but reminds me of the Hetch Hetchy one 

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tebee wrote: Spanish, but reminds me of the Hetch Hetchy one What the heck is that ? L:

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This is the Hetch Hetchy one 

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Thanks! Fascinating thing. And I still have to ask, what is it? Yes, it is a self-propelled rail vehicle of practical purpose, but I'm at a loss as to the purpose.

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First one is a jail house, the second a chicken coop.
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Perfect examples of why I don't like trains


Stick to Cadillac or Olds !


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Model T, REO, Maxwell...those are what I like.

I had a 70 Caddie once...nice ride and could get up & move!
And a 68 Buick Electra...a real lead sled.

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Here is a link to the Silver Northern railcar: http://www.sanjuancountyhistoricalsociety.org/casey-jones.html

Check out the spoke wheels front and back.  Shouldn't be too hard to model.

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Delete.
My mistake.

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Michael, if I'm not mistaken, years ago KEMTRON made parts for this SRR railcar in HO & O and the parts could be made now by PRECISION SCALE. Bob Sloan also made brass etchings for the body but I don't know if they are still available. And I believe that I have seen this car available in 1:20.3 and maybe On3 by PSC also.

It shouldn't be too hard to build one.
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Kemtron! That's a name I was trying to remember in recent past.
Now, what was I trying to remember it for?

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The old Kemtron Shay kit perhaps ?


Cheap (ish)


Loads of people bought them, I believe.


:moose:


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The old Kemtron Shay kit was "state of the art" then and still is! It had a Micro Mo (80:1)/gearbox but needed machining on all the parts! Not for the timid. I believe that kit was/is available from Precision Scale (as are most all old Kemtron parts) but it might take a phone call to them to verify availability. Nothing works better than talking to a REAL PERSON about these things rather than looking at "info" on de net.

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Lest I forget , here's one for that guy who doesn't like trains ( and for Si, of course )I play around with These when I got fed up with my Little Trains. (Just been driven nuts by that silly WIN10 Feature of automatically 'correcting' words to upper-case, so I leave it as it is )

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Taxi's?

Smart move Helmut! When those little guys grow up, they might be able to bring in some family income.

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I like the blue paint job on the little rail truck:thumb:

Looks like the engine is offset.  Can't be more than 10 feet long.

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@Michael
No, that's an optical deception. I know the original (30" NG), and the motor sits in the center, there being two small doors right and left in the driver's cab. The room is so tight, that you normally leave them open when driving it during fair weather. It's not so comfortable when it rains and the wind comes from aft, as there's no rear wall to protect you from the elements. Of course the closed cab catching the wind acts as a sort of sail then:)

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Helmut :  Your blue railmotor has a distinctly Italian NG look; nice !.

Are you expecting night time running? (red/white 'headlights').

Regards,    Michael

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@Michele,
on that line  it is mandatory for all self-propelled vehicles to be equipped with proper lighting. There is running at dusk and there are lots of unprotected grade crossings. That particular critter also serves in MoW.

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I consider this the ultimate railroad modified vehicle, a WW2 Jeep with railroad wheels!

I took this shot at the US Army Transportation Museum at Ft Eustis, VA this spring...

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I love it:rah:

I've been toying with the idea of taking a WWI truck and converting it to a rail truck.

Somewhere in here someone posted a photo of a German tank on rails.

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Probably the Soviet Army had a T-28 put on rails.
I have not found any photos of the original, but there is an Ukrainian 1:72scale kit for it.

And of course the Krauts had one, too.
Interesting enough that one is a captured French reconaissance armoured vehicle.

And I think we had this one already.


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Hi all,

The Australian War Memorial website has photos and film of "Jeep Trains" that operated in Borneo See

https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/C200374 

For more photos, use "Jeep Train" in the search field.


These conversions were done by Australian Army engineers in the later part of WW2.
The Borneo campaign is one of the lesser known amphibious operations of WW2.


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Another military rail truck. British armored vehicle being made in 1919:

https://i.imgur.com/XXxGyuI.jpg

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Si is not gonna be happy. The crane is just barely visible.

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Rail ambulance.





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Described as type 91 armored car, but no more info 





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Seems this is an Japanese armored truck.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumida_M.2593

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Talking about the PE Alpine division on Mount Lowe,

reminded me that they had this converted 1918 GMC Model 16 lorry,

seen here during the lifting of the line.




 
Tom


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NEW RAILTRUCKS HIT THE TRACKS!





Lately I have devoted some time to building a couple of railtrucks for the Big Bend narrow gauge.

Like every self-powered piece of stock I run, these are powered by batteries...
but they are not radio controlled.
Instead of spending lots of dinero on these with r/c boards installed,
I went the "easy" route with just a battery and magnetic reed switch to turn em' on or off.

Their little motors are geared about 40:1 and with a single cell 3.7 Li-Poly (little dude),
they run at a respectable 5 to 7 SMPH with no reverse.
Model T railcars (real ones) tended to overheat when run in reverse so it is "prototypical",
and the trucks can be turned on the turntables anyway.

Soooo, when I want to run one,
I simply stick a tiny magnet to the switch and away she goes,
then when I want to stop, just take the magnet off.
Simple and no "mystical radio wave"operation.

The trucks are built from die-cast 1:32 scale Model T's,
one with an enclosed body (left),
and the other has a "ventilated" body with screen wire installed.

The motors come from ???? (junque box) and the driven wheels have gear towers,
from old and expensive brass diesel mechanisms (the 40:1 ratios)
that I have had for many years, again in the aforementioned old stuff supply.

I am very happy with these critters,
and it is a hoot to watch one run from end to end without any control.
They also have found some track problems which got fixed,
so they trundle along without a care...just what I want!

                Woodie


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Cool stuff.

It is interesting which trains can be relied upon to consistently locate imperfect track.

It is probably a common thing that everybody has that one locomotive and/or car,
which seem to live to tell you where track needs attention.



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Woodie,

Neat railtrucks there. 

I notice you got one of your new Harp switch stands installed.

Isn't there a way to use reed switches to reverse the polarity?



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