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 Posted: Fri Nov 20th, 2009 08:08 am
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well, mudge, your old enough to remember seeing a lot of the cars from the 30's and thats a good thing.

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 Posted: Fri Nov 20th, 2009 12:52 pm
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Yep, Mike~~~~~~~~~

My ole brain processor doesn't work for the last 20 years but it's razor sharp for everything before that. I remember riding in Franklins and my Dads church puchased an old Chandler. I can barely remember our family had a horse (and stable) for the family buckboard. Others were Brushes (not running) and a Maxwell or two and of course Model Ts. A friend and I twice drove a 1915 T from Waco, TX to Alaska and back for the newspaper story but that was shortly after WWII. Both times we had enough parts to build one if needed. No Stanley Steamers but there was a Doble and I was given a White electric from a very old lady who had been a family friend for years. That happened during the war when gas rationing was in vogue. In mint condition,too. Planning ahead, I drove it in two days to Bonham TX where I was a flight instructor for WWII Aviation cadets and then kept it running around Bonham for a year. A real blast. Never ran out of electricity. Built my own charger. My first car was a1940 Ford 60 business coupe but due to the lack of anti freeze I had to cobble two water punp impellers from aluminum to replace the Bakelite ones chewed up by the ice in the cooling system. Them were the days! Willys Knights, Oaklands, Mack solid tired trucks and of course all the Reos, Chevtolets, Cadillacs, etc. I have skipped around in time but....

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 Posted: Fri Nov 20th, 2009 01:03 pm
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damn......you rode in some great cars.........how about some of these, ever drive one or ride in them ??

auburn.....cord.....duesenberg.....cadillac v-12 or v-16, marmon 8 or v-16....graham paige...pierce arrows....hupmobiles...big 8 cyl studebakers.....durants....packards anything pre 1936 v 12 or straight 8.........moon...star....locomobiles....Duponts....

steam cars........jay leno would talk to you about them for hours, they are are his favorites.

mike

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 Posted: Mon Jan 25th, 2010 08:16 pm
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Mike~~~~~~

Surfing through some of the older articles, I finally read one of yours in answer to my message about being old enough to have ridden or driven some fairly old machinery.

Graham Paige...yep...one of my favorite cars...I think it was a 1940 4door a rich cousin of mine had bought for the servants to use for whatever needed doing around the house...cooking, etc. I dated in it and used to JUMP the local railroad track...I practically trashed the car unknowingly being only 17 at the time and newly provided with HER wheels.

Another friend had 2 Cords...both being restored. One was a closed car with an additional trunk on the back...I think called a Berline...the other had no trunk. We finally ran both. As I remember they both had Continental engines. Were they stock? 

With time I'll tell about our 2 trips to Alaska in the same 1915 Model T. Wild times. Even right after the war (WWII)many miles were very little more than 2 muddy ruts where the perma frost had gotten soft.

BC

     

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 Posted: Mon Jan 25th, 2010 09:13 pm
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Bill, if it was a 1940 it would only be a graham...........the graham - paige name disappeared around 1930-31.

For 1940 the graham would have looked like a 1936--37 cord  last years of production, because they bought the tooling from cord and continued with the body style until their end in 1941.  The hupmobile car line also disapeared in 1941.  The pierce arrow stopped production in late 1938 selling off its v-12 motor and transmission too american lafrance fire engine people.  The Cadillac LASALLE dispeared in 1941.   The lower cost nash lafayette also disapeared in 1941.

There would have been some great rare cars still running in 1941 but grabbed for scrap to shoot germans or japanese.

 

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 Posted: Mon Jan 25th, 2010 11:45 pm
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Sorry, Mike~~~~~~~~~~~~~

You forget that my memory is sadly distorted or non existent. I do remember that La Salle and Cadillac both were built into, but not including all of 1942...then production continued slightly longer for the big brass. My cousin in Ft Worth bought one each 42 La Salle and Cadillac...in fact they bought the last Cadillac limosine. Also the Graham...they simply kept on calling them Graham Paige out of habit. They had the slope forward grille that, at the time made it look like it was going 120mph. This one was white. You didn't mention Oakland, the cheap (?) Pontiac. I saw the last one at the 1934 Chicago World Fair.

I finally drove a Raymond Loewy Studebaker convertible a pilot friend of mine bought when he got married. I never saw but his one convertible...few and far between...I still like the coupe version as one of the beauties of all time. NOT that damn Avanti that came later. Argh.

I rode in any number of those I mentioned in my first message...Chandler, Franklin,Whippetseveral others of earlier vintage that memory prevents me from citing. With my family we drove all over the US in Chevrolets bought semi annually from about 1925 or 6 until the War. I remember the ruckus caused by the introduction of the first Model A.

Clincher rims...wooden spokes you had to se

t in a creek once a week to keep them from creaking around corners. Telescoping running board luggage carriers. Five in my family, each with his own pillow to sleep on...I had to sit on all that were not in use, but that was the only way I could see out of the car. I have picture of some of us before leaving for various destinations. Yo Semite (Spelled that way in 1931) and Mariposa Grove where we had our picture taken with my Dad's Autograph super folding camera (616 film) Verichrome (red first time

didn't fotograph black.) sitting in or under the famous redwood tree that you could drive through.  

Puter coming unglued. Later.

BC

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 Posted: Tue Jan 26th, 2010 09:06 am
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sorry mudge........lasalle was dropped at the end of 1940.  The oakland was dropped at the end of 1932 and only the cheaper sister in the line , pontiac was still around. That year pontiac had the optional oakland v8 available and pontiac would not have a v8 available again until 1955.

The 1934 chevrolet had a production line running at the chicago worlds fair and you see people selling those old commemorative pin buttons on ebay.

I also still see those stretchcie running board luggage racks on ebay for the 1931 and down cars.  More popular was the stamped steel bumper mounted rear luggage rack of 1928 and up too 1936.  My 1935 chevrolet has one.

lots of great car names disappeared from 1930--1933 as the depression really took hold.  marmon...chandler...viking..marquette...franklin...whippet...overland..and more.

The war www2 killed off the rest of them that were not strong enough to make it start up production again in 1946 .

one of these days i will get to southern california and visit one of the giant car museums and view all the golden oldies.  But you got to see them in real time, when they were running around, not parked in a spot neveer to move again.

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 Posted: Wed Jan 27th, 2010 11:25 am
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Mike, you are WRONG when you say LaSalle wasn't made into 1942. Cadillac and Buick also lasted into 1942. It's appalling to me how many modern day "historians" write and publish so many errors in what they write. I can also state categorically that I SAW what was an Oakland on the floor of the GM building in Chicago in 1934.

I can assure you that while the stroke took out part of my memory, it did NOT affect much before 1955...then it gets spotty and comes and goes, too.

I was 11 yearas old when I saw the Oakland...sitting on the Pontiac display area. Whether there was anything telling the public this was it's last year or whatever, there it sat.  BTW, the 1933 Century of Progress was held over and presented in 1934, due, I heard, to the volumn (sp)of attendees the year before. 

And I was 20 years old in 1942 when I was instructing Air Corp Aviation Cadets how to fly when I was seeing my cousin's 1942 LaSalle business coupe and driving it on occassion in Ft Worth and also seeing the Reimers, (that was their name) in both 1942 business coupe and limousine made by Cadillac. (Fred Reimers was Fred Weyerhauser's half brother and both were in the lumber business). My Flight Commander (flying) also drove a 1942 Buick convertible.

I had my White Electric at that time plus I was part owner of a Mercedes cast off of unknown (to me) origin. I knew it was rare but I found out much later, how rare. It was an SSKL, one of only 7 ever built to race by the factory. Burago made a model of it, indicating it was a 1931 version, and was 1/18th scale. When I discovered how rare it had been, I tried to track it down but the other owners had died or disappeared. I had sold my interest out when I bought the first car I ever owned completely (except the White), a 1940 Ford 60 business coupe which I mentioned in a previous message.

Drat! I just realized this is NOT a PM. I'm too old to rewrite it as one.

My apologies to all you folks who don't care about my ancient adventures.

 BC,Texas and Tehuacana RR Curmudgeon 

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 Posted: Wed Jan 27th, 2010 12:04 pm
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MUDGE , don't get your Texas flagged THONG in a knot.   

For 20 years i ran a business called GASKET KING COMPANY LIMITED, i specialized in acquiring and selling New Old Stock cylinder head gaskets from 1909 to 1948. For cars , trucks , tractors, motorcycles, marine engines, farm lighting plants, one cylinder hit and miss engines and one airplane .

I owned every gasket manufacturers ( Victor...McCord...Fitzgerald ) application book ever produced starting in 1922 and generally produced and sent to parts stores carrying their brands , every year right up until 1940 .

Sorry to say this but yes your memory is playing tricks on you. Lasalle---the cheaper cadillac ""Lasalle"" was discontinued in 1940.  I suggest you type 1941 lasalle into your search engine and see if you can come up with one.  I had a 1942 issue of the victor gasket catalogue and no mention of a 1941-42 lasalle

Also production of the oakland was discontinued in 1932.  Again search the net to see if you can locate a picture of a 1933. None of my 3 gasket books produced and printed in 1934 ever showed the oakland as being produced in 1933.

The mind is a funny thing and it can easily trick you into believing what you have somehow embeded into your memory banks, after all we are talking about events that occured 76 years ago.

Speaking of which , i was in a conversation the other day with a long time friend who started telling me all about our weekend 3 day trip to michigan and ohio back in 1980 to visit various people to purchase engine gaskets from them , using my 1975 el camino 454 SS one of the last ones made with that motor available.  I have ZERO memory of him being on that trip with me, but yet he related events that happened and the people we met and gave money too that i DO remember. 

 So it would appear that we have SELECTIVE MEMORY of events and history , yours slightly worse than mine.

Hey tell us about those great cars of the 20"s you may or may not have driven yourself opr been a passenger in.   Now about that trip to alaska in a 1915 model T ford.....care to expound.

 

I was just re-reading your reply and the 1940 ford 60 had me shaking my head...whats a 60 ?...i just remembered that was last year for the very small 1937--1940 ****60 HP v8****.. I had a 37 ford 2 door sedan V8 60 hp from 1964--1967. It was called the BAD BANANA, because it was banana yellow and it was real quick.  It had a 312 cubic inch  57 ford T bird motor that was overbored 90 thou ?? with a 3 speed borg warner trans.  My first hot rod.  People locally still ask me about that car and where it could be .?



mike.......................grand thongmaster of whitby


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 Posted: Mon Feb 22nd, 2010 11:01 pm
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Here is a gas car used by the Victorian Railways in Australia. It was built on a chassis of a British AEC bus. It has a 4 cylinder Tylor engine.



And here is a model of the same vehicle. They often pulled one or two trailers behind them. The model is powered, in HO scale, and comes complete with a single trailer.


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