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Restored 70' McKeen Motor Car
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 Posted: Sat Feb 7th, 2009 06:49 pm
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Bill Fornshell
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Restored McKeen:

http://aroundcarson.com/2009/02/04/mckeen_motor_car_progress

Pictures posted with permission.

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The power truck is still being built and the inside needs to be finished. The completion is scheduled for sometime this summer.

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 Posted: Sat Feb 7th, 2009 10:07 pm
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All I can say is nice and well done.

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 Posted: Sat Feb 7th, 2009 11:10 pm
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Hi Bill

What type of drive are they going to re-install?

Almost a given that it isn't going to be original- but the outside looks great!




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She's beautiful! :thumb:

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 Posted: Sat Feb 7th, 2009 11:38 pm
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ebtm3 wrote:
Hi Bill

What type of drive are they going to re-install?

Almost a given that it isn't going to be original- but the outside looks great!

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Herb,

No power trucks survived over the years. They will use a CAT Diesal that was donated to them but from the outside they will make it LOOK as close as possible to the orginal.

In talking to the museum "Curator of History" he said they may not use it for people to ride. The steps into and out are tricky and several workers have fallen going in or going out. It also may be to fancy to let people use.

If they do use it for rides I would go for the ride.

I am going to call and find out the paint numbers for the body and top and paint one or more of mine those colors.

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oh my , oh my, now they are talking about McKeen stuff on the yahoo group on30.......is there no escaping it ????????.

Oh, if your restoring something, you use the ORIGINAL DRIVE TRAIN, not some catapillar diesel thingie. They are HOT RODDING  it, not restoring. The original acf hall scott motor has parts available for it.  They are just taking the cheaper easy way out. 

Also whats the sense of restoring it to running condition if you cannot drive it ? May as well save more money by not puting the motor in it.

The body panels on this restoration leave a lot of wondering as to what level of poorness to grade this....that thing has so many waves down the side of it, should be hooking at hollywood and rodeo drive in LA >>>>>>>LMAO

pass the bondo they say, we will make her straight, bloop & more bloop + air powered belt sander......think am gonna hurl at the thought.

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Well, since they ain't gonna install the original motor/drive...then maybe they should just set fire to the thing & have a bbq. I had an MG Midget like that once, I installed a Datsun 4 banger & transmission when the old MG motor crapped out. Yep, I sure should have kept the blown out motor in her, maybe getting a mule to pull me around in it. What was I thinking?

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I found this on the linked homepage:

All that time it's been hidden away from public view in the shop, and work has been very slow as they've only been doing it as money allows.
So maybe is no other way out as the cheap way?
The points I see are: At first the railcar wasn't scrapped in 1996. The work, which is done until today, is suitable and save it for a lot of years. And a wrong motor can be replaced later.
So I have enjoy the pics and think, they are not on the perfect way, but on the right way for the possibilities they have.

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W C Greene wrote: Well, since they ain't gonna install the original motor/drive...then maybe they should just set fire to the thing & have a bbq. I had an MG Midget like that once, I installed a Datsun 4 banger & transmission when the old MG motor crapped out. Yep, I sure should have kept the blown out motor in her, maybe getting a mule to pull me around in it. What was I thinking?

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If they are not putting the original acf hall scott motor in the McKeen, then they are not restoring it, they are hot rodding it. May as well leave the motor out and just pull it around for tourista stuff with a small diesel switcher.

No they will not pull the cat diesel out and replace it with the original later. Just doesn't happen.

Lets see you had to pull the MG motor and trans. Purchase and Adapt the datsun to its MG chassis  with new fabricated motor and trans mounts. Cobble up some kind of exhaust pipe to exhaust pipe mish mash. Cobble up the positive ground electrical system. Get a new driveshaft cut to mate up to the rear end.  install a new shifter mechanism. plus more work.

You could have bought new rings and bearings and a gasket set, maybe a set of 10 thou over pistons to fit into the bored out cylinders. rebuilt the motor for less agro.

This would have been a heck of a lot cheaper and less work than butchering up a good MG midget.

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Hey, dont be so hard on em. Not enough historical railroad equipment gets restored AT ALL, let alone in 100% original condition. Whatever they decide to do is just fine in my book, they've done quite well with what they've got.

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