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 Posted: Fri Sep 4th, 2009 08:18 pm
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Looking good Michael !!

Did you get the PM I sent?


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 Posted: Fri Sep 4th, 2009 08:40 pm
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Yep. Have edited my last posting in the contest thread :bg:

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teetrix wrote: We have planned a meeting of the railcars... maybe in September at KS Modelling Days in Stromberg.


I reckon this would have been worth seeing.

I've always liked small railcars - and these ones look great.

 

Recently, I've been checking the internet - I've been trying to find out about some real railcars, built in the 1930s by Triebwagen und Waggonfabrik Wismar:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/railbus/4014835378/in/set-72157622717748275/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wismar_railbus

 

The unusual thing about these iconic railcars is that they have engines at both ends - only one is used at a time.

A number of German manufacturers produce models (or kits) - unfortunately, they're all rather expensive. This has got me thinking (often dangerous).

I don't know if similar vehicles were built elsewhere - if they were, this might mean that a freelance kitbash could be credible.

I guess I'll never find out - so I might just have to use up a few bodyshell scraps (and bits of plastikard, etc). I might also need to spend some drawing up plans in Illustrator - well, it certainly beats watching the "festive" turkeys on the television!



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Huw.

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Huw,

here are some pics from the "railcar-meeting":




Martin had his layout exhibited at Stromberg, so it was easy to "arrange" some photos.



Another nice model: Thuri from Switzerland with his green freight railcar, the trucks with the siderods are from a Electric loco in H0.



If you need sketches from Wismar railcars, you can found two of them here:
http://www.museumseisenbahn.de/dme/dme98_3_klb_hsa_t40_erg.pdf

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 Posted: Tue Dec 15th, 2009 09:10 pm
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Michael,

Many thanks.

The photos are great - and the models and layout look good too.

The drawings are superb - and they'll be extremely useful to me.

Thanks for your help.

All the best,

Huw.

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Face it guys, anything with flanged wheels and a name like "Schweineschnäuzchen" just HAS to be modeled!


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ebtm3 wrote: Face it guys, anything with flanged wheels and a name like "Schweineschnäuzchen" just HAS to be modeled!

As has anything with 2 hooded Ford AA or BB engines, known as an "anteater" - but I'll probably still end up making a "pig's nose" of it.

Joking aside, Michael's drawings link is greatly appreciated - and means I can shunt the freelance "twin schnozzer railbus" concept into a siding.

The homebrew idea might have been fun while it lasted, but the real Wismar design just oozes character and class. That's why I like the things.

I particularly like the chassis drawing - helpfully ready scaled for Om or (in my case) Oe. With the "body on" drawings on the website (and in a book), I think I've now got enough information to start making plans.

Anyway, I think that's enough from me for the time being.

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Huw.

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I printed out the drawings from Michael's link also, but after looking at them I realized that with something like an 11 1/2 ft wheelbase, it probably would climb right out of my overly sharp curves.

And with all that overhang, anything in the area outside of the curve would be swept away.

Still a great looking little car, and having spent a lifetime fooling with Model A and B Fords (and the AA and BB trucks), I am in a quandary as to whether or not to "put it on the list"


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Herb,

take a look at the first drawing - there aren't platforms beside the hoods. This will maybe solve your problems with the overhang/clearing space.
Btw: every "Schweineschnauzchen" was unique, there are not two perfectly identical ones - serving to customers wishes aka freelance prototyping :bg:

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ebtm3 wrote: I printed out the drawings from Michael's link also, but after looking at them I realized that with something like an 11 1/2 ft wheelbase, it probably would climb right out of my overly sharp curves.

It looks like Hornby might have been expecting similar issues with their OO Pacer railbus model:

http://static.hornby.com/files/ss-233c-class-142-railbus-361.pdf

http://static.hornby.com/files/hss-319c-class-142-railbus-dcc-456.pdf

It's very noticeable that their service sheet refers to a "motor bogie assembly" - replacing the front screw hole on the chassis with a curved slot (and possibly changing a few clearances) would allow the motor subframe to move freely on corners.

A similar arrangement is often used with RTR long wheelbase 4 wheel wagons - and also bogies on RTR steamers.

Saying that, the standard of the engineering in some of your other models suggests to me that you might not be the world's greatest fan of some of these work-rounds.

Regards,

Huw.

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