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 Posted: Mon Sep 10th, 2012 08:18 pm
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Here is a comparison of 1:48 Gilpin trucks under the car on the left (Kadee HO Wheels) and the 1:35 scale version of the same trucks under the car on the right (Bachmann On30 wheels)

The 1:35 ones look a lot "Meatier" - I keep geting tempted to experiment with this scale - Woody you are a bad influence ! ;)



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 Posted: Mon Sep 10th, 2012 10:25 pm
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Tom-those are nice trucks. I thought that I ordered 1:35 trucks but I must have goofed up and got On30 Gilpin trucks. However, I will use them anyway, I like them. The trucks appear to be spot on for the Gilpin phase 2 and 3 trucks (how's that for nitzy pickers) and I will order some 1:35 jobs soon. The nice trucks make me want to build a few Gilpin cars now. The Silver City cars that I have use old Bachmann On30 arch bar trucks which just happen to have a 3' wheelbase and sideframes almost exactly the same as the real ones. The SC line bought parts from Lima which made the Gilpin cars but we (Duane & I) believe the SC built the cars and trucks in their shops. The SC cars are much easier to build than the GT cars, the ore boxes are similar but the wooden ends on the Gilpin cars are a bugger to make. Picky, picky, picky...
Yep, just keep on and you will start looking at 1:35 military kits and modifying errant nazis to make banditos and loose women! Join the fun.
BTW-again, the trucks look great!

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 Posted: Wed Sep 19th, 2012 05:15 pm
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Guys.

Excuse me; I never get to see any of this stuff in the UK.

Are those the On30 trucks that Bachmann & Fav. Spot call 'Long Wheel Base Arch-Bars' ?
( the ones on the right )

Or are they different metal, with Bachmann wheels ?

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 Posted: Wed Sep 19th, 2012 07:12 pm
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Si-the trucks are (left)Shapeways On30 and (right) Shapeways 35n2 GILPIN TRAM trucks. They come without wheelsets, the On30 models take KD or NWSL HO pointed axle wheelsets and the 35n2 need Bachmann On30 wheelsets. I will try to find the SHAPEWAYS link and post it. The trucks and other On30 and 35 scale car kits, etc. are designed by Tebee (Tom Bell) who is a regular here on FR. You might send him a PM. I have 2 pairs of the On30 trucks and they are very nice. I will get some 35 jobs in a while. All my ore cars use Bachmann On30 archbars and I also have some "low archbars" (look like Maine 2 footers, and my tourist cars have Bachmann On30 passenger car trucks, one set has spoked wheels which Bachmann sells for their Thomas HO cars and are probably easy to get in England. BTW-I am waiting for Tebee's "long open passenger car" which is just cooler than he((. He has it in 1:35 and On30 and I do believe in HOn30 also! Stay tuned...

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 Posted: Mon Oct 1st, 2012 05:00 am
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Thanks Woodie.

The rusty old ore-car 2nd photo on page 1 has the Bachmann trucks.
Long wheelbase I guess.

Nice trucks Tebee.

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 Posted: Mon Oct 1st, 2012 05:08 am
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2ft trucks always 'look longer'...

...cos 1 less foot sideways I recon.

Something like that.

The D&RGW Grandt Line On30 trucks I have here don't look 'right'.

Not long enough; 3ft7in WB in 1:1 I think.

So, long wheelbase for 1:32/35n2.

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 Posted: Mon Oct 1st, 2012 09:32 pm
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Si-I use Bachmann #29901 On30 arch bars on almost everything. Just the "regular" ones. They scale out to 36" wheelbase in 1:35.

There will be more switching the mines in a while, some new, larger ore cars are being built. The mine owners are happy, high grade ore is being mined!

Woodie



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 Posted: Mon Nov 19th, 2012 04:01 pm
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It has been too long since I have posted anything in this thread (outside of some verbage) so here's something that has proven itself and is now used before any switching of the mines can begin. Most of the mines are located on the "hi line" which is just beyond my reach and eyesight and the tracks up there seem to get the most obstructions-leaves, twigs, little rocks, and other scale or non scale debris. This worry caused no end to the hollering and cursing when loads are brought in and empties set out...the crap derailed the cars and locos alike. I can send the Supt's Model T up there but he's glued to his seat and can't clean the line. So drastic measures were considered...another oddball piece of "equipment" to allow debris removal. I have a cricket blower which has a WW1 propeller but it doesn't have the power to blow twigs & rocks off-just scale crickets. Without further adieu, here's what was built:




Shay #5 Lizzy is the loco of choice to handle this car. As can be seen, the as yet unnumbered thing has a "moustasche" on the front to brush off stuff and even clean out guardrails & switches and is filled with rocks to weigh it down.

The car was built of lead sheets mounted upon a single Bachmann On30 passenger car truck. I added styrene and wood "parts" so it wouldn't look like a hunk of lead. The brush was made from an unused white stiff bristle paint brush. The bristles were cut off and epoxied to a piece of angle stock in a wider than track gauge width. The depth is a bit lower than the railhead and is tapered front to back so it really does the job without too much work. I had thought about a rotating bottle brush affair (like a trolley street sweeper) but tried this first-and it works as needed! So, track cleaning is the mother of invention...not Frank Zappa. You will note that there is no provision made for cleaning the rails since that is not in the scheme of things along the Mogollon Rim.

Enough talk, I need to clean the line and get them loads to the smelter before Missy arrives for supper!  



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 Posted: Mon Nov 19th, 2012 04:48 pm
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Woodrow, fellers..

Great guns man..the rocks and twig don't stand a chance...Perfect car...the historians are going to wonder about it in the future..anybody got  a better foto..whot we wonder was it..what was it used for../..drawings..anybody got drawings..somebody will make a set  using the paral-lex method of measuring..another will say it is probably not right as the Elminero shop forces didn't use that sort of rivet in those long ago gone by days.no sir...



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 Posted: Mon Nov 19th, 2012 04:58 pm
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Charley-settle down! I still want to add some NBW's, shovels, chains, all kinds of stuff- but right now, it's at work. One of these days, Alice...bang zoom to the moon!
Just remember that I really built this to please the nitwhackers, not to use as a viable piece of equipment. Yeah, right!



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