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 Posted: Mon Jul 18th, 2011 03:34 pm
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Hi Woody,

I know the feeling I had the same response over here at a local club which is probably why I am no longer a member :)

I was told over and over that DCC has been around for 15 years so why would anyone want to change to radio control?

My answer was that "your telling me nothing has changed in this hobby for 15 years, I don't think that is anything to be proud of"

I have managed now to get some interest in my work over here and would like to expand it further hence my joining this forum :)

Rob

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 Posted: Mon Jul 18th, 2011 05:28 pm
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Rob-for those who just want to sit and watch a train run 'round & 'round...then DC or DCC is the answer. You can sit and drink beer while the "3:10 to Yuma" rolls on by. BUT if one is interested in actually operating a train (maybe while that DCC train rolls by), then r/c is the better choice. I have a little mini layout that is DC and wouldn't think about running it with r/c...but then all I do with it is watch it run around. My Mogollon Railway is wireless and impossible to sit and watch, it is point to point and far, ar more interesting than being a viewer.
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 Posted: Mon Jul 18th, 2011 06:27 pm
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Hello Rob,

Hello all, yes, I'm still alive.....

I was playing arround with a 40 Mhz Radiocontroller a year ago. It ran but not with great succes. Much radiosignal problems. Then I lost my job and .......oh lets forget about it. But now I'm back and kicking!

Just bought a Planet T5 radio with 2,4Ghz. Everyone I spoke told me to do so to get rid off that signalproblems. I do not know much about technics but somehow I will manage to get that train running again.

Here in the Netherlands there is not much activity in rc-railroading but in Germany there is a growing popularity. All self-made with trial and error. So I'm very intrested in your small equipment and I believe there is a market over here as long it is a kind of 'plug-and-play' like. 

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 Posted: Tue Jul 19th, 2011 08:01 am
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Hi Albert, yes it is plug and play. I have made it very easy to use on purpose so that it will appeal to users young and old like me :)

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There she is in all her glory nearly finished !

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Hi Rob,

I've been following your posts, and recall your decoder uses radio communication and plugs into a DCC socket. Looking at the photo I see pads for diodes and the DCC socket.

Am I correct in assuming that you use DCC orange and gray to connect the loco motor and use track input thru rectifier diodes to power the radio and motor controller?

Do you provide function outputs for front and rear lights (DCC white and yellow)?

Since control messages are by radio, I assume no DCC messages on the track so it can be simple DC or whatever connected thru the DCC socket to the rectifier diodes. Am I correct?

Do you use NMRA DCC packet format for your radio messages?

What radio frequency are you using?

Are you using a radio transceiver IC? Are you comfortable disclosing the manufacturer and part number? Don't let my curiosity bother you. I won't be offended if you prefer to keep some info private.

You may have read some of my posts and noted that I decided to convert commercially available decoders for radio communication, although I have designed and built some of my own DCC decoders using radio modules from Linx Technologies.

Thanks for contributing to the RC effort.



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 Posted: Wed Jul 20th, 2011 08:19 am
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Hi Neil,

I am more than happy to answer your questions as I feel as a group its easier to develop products than going alone...

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Am I correct in assuming that you use DCC orange and gray to connect the loco motor and use track input thru rectifier diodes to power the radio and motor controller?
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Yes you are correct.

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Do you provide function outputs for front and rear lights (DCC white and yellow)?
A. Yes there are 4 outputs.

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Since control messages are by radio, I assume no DCC messages on the track so it can be simple DC or whatever connected thru the DCC socket to the rectifier diodes. Am I correct?
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Yes the decoder will work off a battery, DC or DCC.

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Do you use NMRA DCC packet format for your radio messages?
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No I have wrote my own protocol.

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What radio frequency are you using?
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868MHz and 915MHz.

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Are you using a radio transceiver IC? Are you comfortable disclosing the manufacturer and part number? Don't let my curiosity bother you. I won't be offended if you prefer to keep some info private.
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Yes I am using a transceiver IC and its the CC1101 from Texas Instruments.

I have developed products using this part since it was released to market so I have many years of experience with the part. Also on the pcb is a Microchip PIC.

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Rob

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The rope was only to hold ya till the barb wire was ready. Good thing ya got away :apl:
since I want low volume sound someday this is a cool thread.
TCC:} :old dude:

W C Greene wrote:

quite diferent than what they thought about 8 years ago when I showed them my r/c On30 locos. Somebody muttered "get a rope"...
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 Posted: Wed Jul 27th, 2011 11:28 am
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Hi again,

If I decided to invest in my design and bring it to market as a proper commercial product would any of you guys be potential customers?

Rob

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 Posted: Wed Jul 27th, 2011 11:45 am
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Howdy TC..welcome to the madness. It has been a while since I looked out and saw the local villagers coming with pitchforks and torches. Low volume sound? That's what I have...the sounds of birds, insects, wind, and the occasional B17 flyover.
Glad you made it here, stick around a while.
Now, back to radio control and how it will change the hobby like DCC did 30 years ago.
Woodie



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