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 Posted: Wed Jan 13th, 2010 02:59 am
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Good to be here :2t:, I accidently stumbled on this site in my usual 'lunch time surf the net and find trains' session, I'm in to all things narrow gauge with H0n3 and 1:24 scale (1:24n42?) railways and a irresistable itch to try some On30 modelling so this site seems to have it all, I'm not into politics or politically motivated sites so it looks good.



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 Posted: Wed Jan 13th, 2010 03:12 am
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G'day Budd

Glad you found us.

Many On30 modelers here, and some even know what they are talking about.

BTW we like looking at pictures, beats the hell out of reading.

South Australia, the home of the Coffee Pot and the Peterborough Railway Work shop. 

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 Posted: Wed Jan 13th, 2010 03:47 am
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Spent some years involved with Pichi Richi Railway and worked on Coffee Pot in my single years, was born at Peterborough to the sound of a garratt (sadly not long enough ago to remember the garratt's in action), work for the railways so trains are in my blood so to speak.

Berwick heh, out Dandenong way? do you get to Puffing Billy much? My H0 and half inch railways are based on SAR and CR narrow gauge, any On30 will be freelanced with a lean towards a 30" railway that hauled salt from an inland salt lake (naturally) to the jetty at Muston Bay on Kangaroo Island (American River area), little 0-4-0's, a tractor/locomotive and neat little bulk head 4 wheel flat cars for the bagged salt. I will have to squeeze/justify a Coffee Pot model on there if that On30 model ever does come out.

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ebtm3 wrote: Hey Budd-

Welcome! Glad to have you aboard! Any month now this thread will get back on topic, so join in!!


Herb:old dude:
What was the topic, again?



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 Posted: Wed Mar 3rd, 2010 02:07 am
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I'm not sure what the topic was, originally, but G gauge is really no more complicated than politics. :Crazy: I'll leave the topic at that.

But O gauge scale is also not quite right.

Back in the 1930's :old dude:someone got upset that the correct gauge for O (1/4"=1" or 1/48 size) is really 1.1770833...inch. Not 1.25 inch of the actual O scale model track. Now these erastwhile true scale modelers realized that they could not very readily change the track to 1.177... inches because then they would have to alter all the wheels on the axles and worse, greatly modify the model engines to that smaller gauge.

Solution? Change the scale of the models from 1/4"=1' scale to 17/64"=1' scale. Thus in those days one could buy engines and cars made to both 1/4"=1' scale and 17/64"=1' scale. :us:The difference was actually noticable when the cars and locos were displayed side by side.  

Talk about nit-picking! :P Well, 17/64"=1' scale eventually died out by the 1950's. But I remember seeing kits made to both scales.  So let us not worry about all our scales in G gauge. Personally, I love the disparity. I have a number of plastic armored train and railroad gun kits in 1/35 scale and intend to put workable wheel sets on them so I can run military trains on my RR. :Salute: So there is yet another scale on G gauge.

Enjoy, it is only a hobby.

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 Posted: Fri Mar 5th, 2010 09:57 pm
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I don't think that 17/32nd scale has died out, I believe they call it 7mm (1:43?) scale, it is pretty big in England, although by my calculations 17/32 mericated = 6.75mm and 305mm (1 foot) divided by 7 = 43.6th scale so someone has stuffed that all up anyway and the nit pickers haven't got it right (or maybe I haven't got it right?).

The silliness of it here in Australia is that we have 2 large gauges 5' 3" (broad gauge)and 4' 81/2" (standard gauge), the Victorians have been happy to model their broad gauge in 1/4" to the foot, recently some manufacturers have decided to offer New South Wales standard gauge models but in 7mm scale!! Victoria and New South Wales are neighbouring states and there railways come together at Albury so it is not as if they are on either side of the continent. I see that there is a trend to also offer narrow gauge models to suit 43rd and 48th scales as well to model 2' and 2' 6" gauge models on 16'5mm gauge.

I'll keep on modelling 24th and 29th scale in my garden, and am more than happy to have 20th and 32nd scale friends to visit and run. What WAS that topic again?



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 Posted: Fri Mar 5th, 2010 11:46 pm
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Uh, Bud, that's 17/64 scale, not 17/32. But you got the rest right, I think. Being an American I have very little to do with English to metric conversions.

I'm in a local G gauge club in Western-Middle Connecticut  and we have a very good rule for scale accuracy. It is called the 3 Foot Rule. "If the model looks good from three feet away it is in scale." We have guys in the club who do keep to one scale for their model railroads and others who like to mix and match whatever looks good. But we all accept the other guys preferences and no one ever criticizes the other for any thing he does in modeling. If anything some of the guys often offer to help one another with problems on the layouts. It is a very friendly, accepting group. Just as a hobby should be. 

The interesting thing about G being an outdoor scale is that a number of the fellas have their older HO or O layout in the house and the larger G layout ourside.

I am building my G model railroad now and I plan to have some 60mm World War One front line narrow gauge track branching off into the front lines.  I will use regular HO gauge track but I'll use the correct size and spacing for the ties (sleepers). Lessee, 60mm = 23.6220 inches, which is close enough to 2 foot gauge. HO gauge track gauge measures from .649 to .663 inches (16.48 to 16.84mm)  so in 1/32 scale HO track would measure about 16.5 inches, not 24 inches. I think OO gauge track would be closer to 24 inches at 22.7 inches in 1/32 scale, but we do not have any OO trains in the USA. HO is as  common as dirt in the USA which means I can get all the track and wheels sets I need for very little cost. So I'm cheating a bit on the gauge. Yes, that is OK.  I can live with that. I have the Hunslet engine and a few cars that are 1/32 scale models of the WW1 front line trains (they are made in England by ScaleLink)  so I'll use those. I'll have to animate the scenes with explosions and sounds of shells wizzing by and the like. I am going to try for an animated model railroad. An ambitious undertaking but it should be fun.  

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Stephen-think about using 1:35 scale (military scale), then the 16.5MM gauge becomes a 2 footer. My layout is 1:35 or close to it  http://freerails.com/view_topic.php?id=1222&forum_id=17 here's the link to my thread. This way, you could have a 2 footer without much trouble.

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 Posted: Sat Mar 6th, 2010 01:42 am
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Yes, I will be running the 1/35 scale armored trains and railroad guns that I have. I'll just put good wheel sets under them so I can run them on the standard G track. However, I'll also be running trains that are 1/29. 1/24, 1.22.5 scale on the same track. Maybe I'll just run them past the military area very fast so no one will notice.:bg:

My railroad will be long, spanning the entire back yard and I'll have a number of different areas of scenery on it.  I sarted it last fall and will get back to it when the weather improves this spring.

For an operating engine on the 1/35 scale G track I was thinking of taking a regular steam loco and covering it with armor. That way I will not have to make an operating German looking steam loco. I have the plastic model kit of the German 2-10- 0 loco in 1/35 but I do not feel like going to all the trouble making a 5 axle driver set and motorizing it. Easier to cover any loco with armor. Then I may put one of my extra Thomas faces on the front with the little mustache and hair over one eye of der Feuher. Maybe add a sound card with his screaming speeches. Of course, if I do that I'll have to have partisans blowing up the track farther down the line.

Like they say, "Model Railroading is Fun."



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 Posted: Sat Mar 6th, 2010 01:56 am
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Stephen-aren't you also on the fs32ng site? Your modeling sure sounds familiar.

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