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Here are some pix of some 18" gauge mining stuff from Clifton, Arizona. This was taken in front of the Phelps Dodge company offices. Enjoy.



Here is a little electric mine lokie, the pole has been removed.



Grandt Line makes a model of this Koppel side dump cart in HO & O scale.



The Koppel car had this tiny knuckle coupler, smallest I have seen on a non-miniature line. The cap shows the approx scale.



Here is a little O&K "V tipper" car.



A "crane" car for inside a mine and to the right is a cool little "front end loader" mining car.



another view of the "front end loader" car. This is just a sample of the stuff out there in Clifton...home of the 20" gauge railroads..There is more if anybody wants to see it. Arizona is a museum for old forgotten railroad and mining equipment,   Woodie



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Boy, I'd like to be in Clifton right now!! That sky sure does look inviting.

Seems to me all that's missing on the lokie is some fool holding the "death wand" and it's good to go.

Thanks for those pics, Woodie.



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Sullivan wrote: Seems to me all that's missing on the lokie is some fool holding the "death wand" and it's good to go.

That's a shocking idea.

Excellent photos - fascinating subjects - I could lose myself for ages in places like that.

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I will send some more pix as soon as I can get them uploaded to PB. I have some pix of the countryside around Clifton/Morenci and some shots of real 20" gauge steam locos sitting by the side of the road.  Later...Woodie



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Thanks, Woodie - exactly the inspirations I need for the new layout :thumb:

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OK, here are a couple of more photos of 18" gauge mining equipment in Clifton. Also, there are some photos of what the "countryside" is like out there along the AZ-NM border.



This battery mine loco is in a small roadside park in Clifton along with some other cool old stuff. I remember that Alexander Scale Models made a kit for this (unpowered) in HO and Grandt Line had one that was powered in On3/On2.



This "V tipper" was in the same little park. There have been many kits in most scales for this one. There are even kits in 1:32 scale-quite a popular little car. Next are some shots of the area, just scenery.



The Coronado RR (20" gauge) ran along a ledge in the upper left, barely visible. The 3 foot gauge Shannon Arizona ran across the gulch, you can still see it's grade.



This view is along side Chase Gulch headed to Morenci, the railroad grade has been covered by rockslides now.



Here's another of Chase Gulch, the Coronado RR serviced a mine on the hillside here, nothing is left but rocks, cactus, and rattlers. I hope everyone enjoys the scenery and neat displays in this narrow gauge "paradise".     Woodie

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Makes me feel the urge for a road trip...

Scenery shots are always good. I myself desperately need to get down to Terlingua with a camera and a bunch of old coffee cans. :bg:



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Wow...I have lived in Arizona nearly all of my life and never made it out to the Coronado trail...seems like it's time for a road trip!  Thanks for the photos, Woodie!

That front-end loader, by the way, was called a 'mucker' by the miners.  It was used to load the loose ore in the stopes after blasting.  Before the invention of these, they would put a sheet of iron in front of the rock face before setting off the charges, and use that as a surface to shovel the ore into cars.  Backbreaking work!



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Thanks for the info on the mucker! That would certainly make a great little model and add plenty of detail to a mining operation. You need to get up to Clifton sometime. The "Copperhead' is there as well as lots of neat equipment. Further up the gulch, the big Phelps Dodge mine has covered the old town of Morenci with tailings, but further up, New Morenci has another 20" loco and ore car on display. Down from Clifton, in Safford there's another 20" loco at a small museum and in Phoenix, there's still another loco. If you make it to Clifton, be sure to check out "the Cave", a local saloon with very cold beer and of course downtown Clifton where the street is so narrow, 2 cars can't pass each other. As you might have guessed, I love the place. And to top it all off, only 40 miles to the east is...MOGOLLON.   Woodie 



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Looks like  it was a fun filled excursion. Nice photo'. Cold beer, small mining towns and narrow gauge , What more could a guy ask for?!! 



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