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 Posted: Tue Jan 5th, 2010 08:14 pm
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Again...these shots really make a guy want to head out on a road trip. Arizona just looks so good in these shots. Never been but might have to put it on the ol' wish list.

Still, Terlingua would be a "mite" closer.

Any more pics ya got Woodie would be sorely appreciated.



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I can see why you like #2 so much!

But why do they like to put Dizzyland paint jobs on locos that are on display? I know that they want to catch the eye of the general public, but don't they understand that railfans and modelers are MUCH more important?


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Herb-if you think those paint jobs are "Disneyesque", then you need to look at some "south of the border" paint jobs on working locos. I have this book about US locos used around the world and in the "far east" there are Shay locos painted up red, blue, maroon, orange, and yellow...and that's on ONE loco! Of course that's a bit too much for me but I do have a "British racing green" 4-4-0 with gold striping & lettering-it is used by the Gila Tramway to haul tourists to the cliff dwellings. And Shay #1 has a blue boiler. I just can't help it!         Woodie



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I saw the "blue" boiler and thought that it was "Russia iron".

And please don't get me wrong, I do not think that the only color for steam locos is black--you just did a Canadian engine that was a knockout. The British had a good sense of colo(u)r on their steamers---but not white driver tires and sand pipes or cylinder end covers. Even a lot of early American (pre war between the states, or war of secession depending which side you favor) had multi-color paint schemes, and I would expect to see a model of one replicate that. But  a model of a utilitarian mine loco? Any white paint would be black in a day or two. Rather than do needed maintenance the East Broad Top RR spends time and money painting the driver tires white- go figure.


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Remember Herb that my railroad runs very close to "the border" and in a land of rocks and cactus, there has to be color of some sort. If you want to see color, look at Muj's little Mason Bogie...I think it has 4 colors!  I kinda like the white tires and siderods, it is something to watch when the loco runs along. Add valve gear to this and it becomes almost "hypnotic" or something like that. And that Canadian Pacific paint job...well...            Woodie



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I think these Porters were originally delivered in a brown and maroon scheme...for those willing to pay for the fancy schmancy paint job.  On my road, you're lucky if there's a coat of paint on her... 

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What happened to the guy who was working with the Az Mining Museum to see if #2 could be put back in steam? He was at the museum about a year ago when I went through...



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Duane-you know how those museum types move around, he'll probably resurface. BTW-if you are interested in SW history, etc. books (bet you are), make it to Benson, AZ and find the SINGING WIND book store.  This place is out in the desert and has the largest and best inventory of rare and unusual books, etc. I found my old Mogollon Diary book there and if I had several thousand to spend, I could surely spend it there. I have some detail shots of ACC "Copperhead" 0-4-4t in Clifton if anybody is interested. and more shots of neat stuff out there.    Woodie

PS-I just "Googled"  and Singing Wind is shown...check it out... 

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I heard about his interest from the curator in a recent visit, but do not know his name.  I am no expert in the restoration of steam locomotives, #2 got a cosmetic restoration in the early 90s after sitting as a derelict on Coronado Mountain with two of her sisters for 67 years.  She is approximately 120 years old.  Doesn't sound too promising without complete rebuilding, new boiler, new everything.  Of course it can be done, it comes down to time and money...

Another challenge...where to run it?

Of course, I would love nothing more than to see...and hear...her run again.

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With the modern regulations, a new, certified boiler for sure. Paperwork tracing the existing boiler to the the drawings and engineering stress calculations made when it was built seem to be necessary, along with ultrasound examination for thickness of the metal, and a hydro test. Even then, some building practices from back in the old days (lap seam construction for example) are cause for rejection. If any of the above are missing---forget it----

From personal experience back in the late '70's, the Australian government has very strict standards for pressure vessels---Comments from folks "down under"?


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