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REALLY WANT THIS ITEM ... BUT THE COST IS CRAZY !

DOES ANYBODY NOW IF THIS TOOL IS WORTH THE COST AND HOW GREAT THE TOOL IS TO USE ? 

I HAVE SEEN SOME GRASS ON OTHER PAGES AND IT LOOKS GOOD. 

BUT WHO KNOWS IF IT WAS DONE WITH GRASSMASTER. 

ANY INFO OR LINKS WOULD BE GREAT.

REGARDS



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:bg: When you speak of Grassmaster, are you talking about the application of static grass? 

I know that the price of the tool is way over the top in my book. 

If this is what you have in mind, I may have a solution for you. 

I recently went to a train show and saw a homemade version, which worked for small applications. 

It would require a number of applications for a large area. 

The total cost of the required pieces to make it came to a whopping $17.32. 

If this is where you are headed or what your looking at I would be glad to forward you the article.


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Speak with some of your friends who model, and see if one would be of interest to them as well and perhaps you could split the cost with them.

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Check out the link below. This is the Grassinator and can be built from parts. I believe some of the parts may have to be substituted now but this will at least give you the idea.

Also, I know there are instructions for building a slightly different model on one of Joe Fugate's DVDs. I think this may be available from his site, too.

http://www.ztrains.com/pages/tech/grassinator/grassinator.html

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I am not overly impressed with the home made jobbies. I have a Noch unit which works well but is too large for detailed work.

A new much better unit is now supplied by Greenscenes although their new website does not yet list it. The cost is £70

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John

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Noch now offers a cone end for the Grassmaster which can be purchased separately.

Now it can be used with more precision than before.

Here is a link through Scenic Express.

http://www.sceneryexpress.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NH60132

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Just spotted this thread and thought this may be of interest

http://www.finescalerr.com/smf/index.php?topic=498.msg6879#msg6879


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Hi

see  http://www.009.cd2.com/how_to/grass.htm for my opinion of flyswots

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Thanks John,


I can only comment on the fly-swat and say I found it worked really well ............. 

but I was only using it on very small diorama type bases not the large areas you have done on your site ( which look really good) ....  

I have not used or even seen in real life work produced by the "proper version"


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$18.00 THATS MORE LIKE IT.

YES THAT INFO WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU CAN FIND IT. 

THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR THE LINKS. 

I THINK I COULD BUILD ONE OF THESE, IF I HAD A PARTS LIST AND INSTRUCTIONS ON ASSEMBLY.

REGARDS.



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Not exactly a parts list, but here are the instructions I followed

http://www.freewebs.com/waringthin/Club%20doings/Making%20A%20Cheap%20Static%20Grass%20Applicator.doc


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see

http://www.009.cd2.com/flyswat.htm

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Dave D wrote: Noch now offers a cone end for the Grassmaster which can be purchased separately.

Now it can be used with more precision than before.

Here is a link through Scenic Express.

http://www.sceneryexpress.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NH60132

I bought the Noch Grassmaster together with a friend, so half costs for each.

It works fine.



I found for me, that it is good to apply the grass on a uneven surface, if you want to avoid a golf lawn look. In the shown example I used "iceland moss" for the ground.

Also, I used dark green and faded grass fibers together.

Juergen


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http://search.harborfreight.com/cpisearch/web/search.do?keyword=fly+swatter&Submit=Go

Last edited on Sat Jan 16th, 2010 04:52 pm by Bob H.

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I have an "What I Did" about making a D.I.Y. static grass device from an electric fly swatter ...

... and other thoughts at:


http://www.pacificcoastairlinerr.com/grassinator/





Thank you if you visit


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Easy static grass seems to be a lot down to the right tools.

Anyone got any favorite commercial or DIY applicators they've used ?

:moose:

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Si...in an old Narrow Gauge Down Under, a fellow showed how to make a grass applicator for about $10 (US or AUS) which did what the 'spensive job does! Just don't tell anybody about this!

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Hi all!

I designed my own Grassmaster. 


I 3D printed it on my own printer and bought the electronics online.


It's assembled now.






First test of the home-built grassmaster with a 9 volt battery for power and Woodland scenics short grass.






Tomorrow I will test with the 12 volt trafo and longer grass.


I was surprised how strong the static field is. 

The hair on my hand stands straight up when I get close ... The grass gets really dense and stands up really nice.


This project gives a good result. 

The cost was really affordable. 


When summarizing every component and the material for the 3D print, it cost me roughly $50!

Under half of what equal products on the market costs with the same specs.


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Hi Michael :wave:



Sounds like a great bit of DIY to me ! :thumb:

Do you have the schematic for the electronics you used ?



:)



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Sure, here's the original article.http://www.bouldercreekrailroad.com/static-grass-applicator.html

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I watched the video and that was cool and then I noticed youtube had a bunch of other videos that looked interesting, including some making the same device with a bugzapper:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHxDH8PyAzA

HF has these zappers for $3.99 and the strainer can't be more than about that a couple of buck. At 12:40 he compares it against a $270 device sold by Walthers...

Guess I'm going to HF...


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I'll stick to commercial RTS greenkeeper machines for the hobby. Lack of power in fly swatters is anoying..for professional use I have 70 and 80kV machines..

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" I have 70 and 80kV machines " :brill:



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Hi Martin :shades:



Don't forget your Wellington boots, if the grass is wet ! ;)





I saw a DIY something-or-other on eBay.

Was wondering about it.

Didn't say it was a WMD or anything. :cool:






L:



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The RTS-Greenkeeper comes in 25, 35, and 55kV varieties. It isn't cheap, but all tests say it's the best value for money you can get.

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I'm a bit scared to buy a grass machine with over 15Kv...
That's because of swedish law, which states that electrostatic hand tools over 20Kv is considered a handgun.... And will give you at least $3000 in fines or prison.
We have a prejudice, where a man rebuilt a fly zapper to give 35Kv to kill wasps.
Somehow the police found out about it, and he got 1 year on probation and $4000 in fines....

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Think that if the CE brand is there Michael and it's also registered in Sweden there's no problem. 

That's one of the reasons these machines costs a bit more. 

The CE brand you have to pay for. 

I prefer machines from manufacturers with this brand because they forfill on certain laws and regulations..homebuild don't..



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