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 Posted: Mon Jan 18th, 2010 05:32 pm
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Found it under a tarp in a Loveland barn and was paid to get rid of it!

Eventually sold it for a king's ransom and bought me a downtown house plus a 12 cylinder Avions Voisin which was another 1929 beaut!

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 Posted: Mon Jan 18th, 2010 07:02 pm
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pilotfriend wrote: I drove for six years a Cord which to me is still the best looking car ever. OK, it left oil everywhere it went and the rear of the car would be anywhere around a corner, but the front always stayed where it was supposed to be. It was in nice condition but not restored and never broke down once!

oh, you were driving a real cord , an L29, first front wheel drive car made 1929--1932 and a monsterous beast size wise.  It had a lycoming built straight 8 engine  3 1/2" bore by 5" stroke

You should have kept that, semi restored it to very nice condition and cashed in , in the mid 80's when people were crazy for them big giant cars.  That would be the time to sell before the real estate fiasco meltdown of 1987--1992 when the value of the classics got murdered.  Even now the move is away from the classics and onto the super hi-po cars of the early 60's to 1970.  Tune in speedvision starting tuesday nite thru to sunday at 6 broadcast from Arizona.

i got the TV warmed up and my dream machine in gear.

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 Posted: Mon Jan 18th, 2010 10:29 pm
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I'm glad those deals where; "some little old lady" or "found it in a barn under a tarp"are being found in the UK!  A year ago, A local guy found a Civil war Confederate  cannon in original pristine condition With ammo in a Missouri farmers barn just across the Kansas border behind some bales covered up with a dusty OLD tarp. The Museum here  put it on display for a short time. Those kind of finds are still around, you just have to look really hard for them.

Me I ain't that lucky...

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 Posted: Tue Jan 19th, 2010 08:24 am
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I think that kind of find is long gone now. Found the Cord in Colorado, found an 8 litre Bentley with about 200 miles on the clock since new in Angelsey (Wales) and several other amazing cars.

I am doing a website, still not complete but you may be interested in seeing

http://www.thoroughbred-cars.com/

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JOhn

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 Posted: Mon Feb 15th, 2010 08:25 pm
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ebtm3 wrote:     ...
My feelings are that if a model is constructed to look like A prototype, without slavishly copying any particular real piece, it is fine with me. I'm not talking about a model with missing grab irons, for instance (please no pictures of real cars without them!), the model should be logical, believable, and usable if it was real.
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Coming back to your starting point, I can say that I absolutely share your "feeling" about freelance modelling.:thumb:
My vehicles are exact models of my fictional prototypes:moose:.

To my opinion: "all what you need is a good story"
So I try to place my models in a common believable context of my imaginary island railway.

But beside all fictional design,  I follow the rules of prototype technology as near as possible.

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 Posted: Mon Feb 15th, 2010 09:14 pm
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Interesting topic!

I have mixed emotions about freelance and prototype modeling.  Although I tend to be much more into prototype modeling (I actually consider myself a bit of a rivet counter), I am amazed by the creativity and ingenuity of the freelancer.

I'll also be the first to admit that I am attracted to prototype modeling because I enjoy the technical side of the hobby...I take it as a challenge to replicate the real thing in all its glory.  I am, with great regret, not nearly creative enough to dream up some of the cool freelance stuff I've seen grace these very pages, so prototype modeling is a bit of a crutch for me.

That being said, every scale model no matter how 'perfect' or near-to-scale, will have some compromises.  From what I've seen the freelancers tend to embrace this understanding much better than the prototype guys.  I believe this attitude (in many cases) gives the freelance layout much more of a realistic 'feel' than some of the boring prototype layouts out there...I'd stack the Mollogon, Estrella & Sonora Grande, and Tall Timber layouts up against the best prototype stuff around. 

Bottom line for me is build what you want and who cares what anyone else thinks...you're the one that has to live with it, so have fun & enjoy!


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 Posted: Mon Feb 15th, 2010 09:50 pm
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Being I'm 0n30 now, I freelance a "believable working model". If I were to go back to proto, I would be working in 0n3 with a Mud hen modeling the  Great Colorado Rockies. But $$$$ wise and the economy, 0n30 will do just fine .;)

L:Now to think of a catchy name for this fictional rail road of mine.

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I have been a modeler since 1942. I have known a lot of modelers over the years. At one end of the spectrum we have some guys who are strictly Fine Scale. They count the rivets and want everything as close to a real prototype as they can possibly make it.
At the other end of we have the modelers who like to invent their own prototypes.
Most of the modelers lie somewhere in between these two extremes.
Except every now and then there is a maverick who makes funny, or fantastic or even whimsical models.
All these modelers are correct in what they do. It is their hobby and a person's hobby is meant to meet his needs, not anyone else's. We are not being paid to make these models, we do it for a myriad of reasons and we all hope to get whatever it is we want from the hobby.
There is no right or wrong in the hobby. It is just a hobby. Nothing more, nothing less.
All we can ask from our fellow modelers is to show a little tolerance and just accept  the fact that the other guy is different and is entitled to make his models his way.
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 Posted: Fri Mar 5th, 2010 01:50 pm
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 Posted: Fri Mar 5th, 2010 07:07 pm
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ssculptor wrote: I have been a modeler since 1942. I have known a lot of modelers over the years. At one end of the spectrum we have some guys who are strictly Fine Scale. They count the rivets and want everything as close to a real prototype as they can possibly make it.
At the other end of we have the modelers who like to invent their own prototypes.
Most of the modelers lie somewhere in between these two extremes.
Except every now and then there is a maverick who makes funny, or fantastic or even whimsical models.
All these modelers are correct in what they do. It is their hobby and a person's hobby is meant to meet his needs, not anyone else's. We are not being paid to make these models, we do it for a myriad of reasons and we all hope to get whatever it is we want from the hobby.
There is no right or wrong in the hobby. It is just a hobby. Nothing more, nothing less.
All we can ask from our fellow modelers is to show a little tolerance and just accept  the fact that the other guy is different and is entitled to make his models his way.
Stephen


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