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 Posted: Sat Feb 6th, 2010 08:45 pm
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MDC - K27 Kit-Bash

I like the K27 Steam Locomotive but have read about all the electrical problems etc that the models being sold today, both used brass and new versions seem to have. Many of the older brass models and a lot of the new ones have problems that require re-motoring and or adding extra wipers to all wheels. If I was paying that much money for a K27 and then had to spent a lot more just to get it to run well, then why not just build / kit-bash my own and have some fun while I was at it.

I have collected a bunch of the old MDC - HOn3, 2-8-0's, in both the Outside Frame and the Inside Frame models. My thought was to Kit-Bash one or more of the "Outside Frame" versions into an engine that looks as close to a K27 as I can make it.

By making my own Kit Bash K27 I can create space in it for one of my All-Trol Radio Control w / Batteries Systems. With my RC System I will have "0" current pickup problems as it will require no track power. With a little luck I may even find enough space to add one of the All-Trol Sound Modules.

I have been collecting pictures, drawings and related articles about the K27 for awhile. A couple of weeks ago I placed and order with Precision Scale Co. (PSC) for a bunch of K27 related detail parts. I received my order from them in 16 days from the day I placed the order. That was so quick I have to tell you all I was surprised.

I had been thinking about how I was going to do this for awhile so when the part arrived this past Thursday I got started on the frame modifications.

1. I am cutting away the old side area at the rear of the frame so I can attach the "rear frame extension" part from PSC (PSC part # 32426).


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7. I cut off the row of leaf spring looking things to help lower the boiler. I have a new set of these springs (PSC part # 32483) that are a bit smaller and will add them to the frame toward the end so I don't break them off while still working on the frame part. You can also see the new Cylinder Blocks like are used on K27 #455 (PSC part # 3213).


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9. Test fit for the Boiler.


10. Stock MDC HOn3 and my modified version.


11. Cab on modified frame to see how it looks.


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 Posted: Sun Feb 7th, 2010 03:09 am
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OK

This is very cool!! :pimp:

The K class locos are my favorite.  :mex: Especially 28's followed closely by the 27's.

You have my, as much as it can be undivided, attention.

Are the two boilers in photo #12 exactly the same?

I think so, but the lowering, makes it look so much different.

Sweeeeet! :2t:



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Dave D wrote:
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Are the two boilers in photo #12 (10) exactly the same?

I think so, but the lowering, makes it look so much different.

Sweeeeet! :2t:



Thanks Dave for looking and for your comments.

Yes, both boilers in picture 10 are the same. One has been painted but they are both the same size.

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Bill, looks like you had a nice start with these kits! Coming very nicely!



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Oops,  I meant photo 10, thanks for correcting that Bill.

When attaching the new PSC details, what is your preferred method solder or glues?

Also, if you have a preferred method, why do you prefer it?



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Dave D wrote:
Oops,  I meant photo 10, thanks for correcting that Bill.

When attaching the new PSC details, what is your preferred method solder or glues?

Also, if you have a preferred method, why do you prefer it?


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Hi Dave,

Great question and one that used to give me fits and still does once in awhile.

If you go to the Bar Mills Models home page and look toward the bottom you will find a few "how-to" videos. Number 3 is about glue types. I found that interesting and was nice to know I was using several of the ones he recommended.

http://www.barmillsmodels.com/

I don't solder very well so most of the time I look for a different way to attach things. I will try and solder small parts that are brass to brass. For most metal to metal or metal to plastic or wood I use JB Weld or I drill, thread and screw together. I really like JB Weld and have used it for over 50 years. It sets up slow enough that I can move things around a bit if I have to. Then I let it sit overnight. I use it also as a filler for holes and cracks. It files and sands nice. When I need to use an "ACC" I use the clear gap filling 5 -15 second type. I use Aleene's Tacky Glue and a good wood glue (see picture) for my wood parts, card stock and a lot of other materials. It will hold metal to metal if that piece or part is not under some kind of stress or in a place where it might get bumped.

I do a lot of testing before I glue new material or if I am not sure how a glue might react (code word for forget).



For the K27 rear frame extension I removed some of the rear of the MDC model frame in away that I could drill a couple of small holes and use two screws and a small filler piece of plastic.

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I have been working on the front part of the frame / chassis. I cut off the old MDC Pilot and space between the Boiler and the Pilot. I have added a couple more PSC parts (PSC Frame and Deck, front part #32425 and PSC Pilot part #3218). This modification took a bit of cutting and filing. I still have a little more work to do as I figure out how.

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I spent a bit more time tonight attaching the front truck and wheels. This is another PSC part (PSC Truck, lead, less wheels, part #3010).

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Love the way she is hunkered down Bill.



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Hi Dave,
I am using the K27 plans from the March and July 1973 Model Railroader. My engine is the same length as the prototype and the same height from the top of the rail to the top of the boiler as the prototype. This MR 2-part K27 article is really great.

A couple of new pictures using the flash. The front and rear truck wheels are now attached.



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