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 Posted: Sun Feb 14th, 2010 10:34 am
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My existing layout is been demolished as I type.

Fortunately I shall be able to save and re-use the benchwork with a few modifications.  All the backdrops have gotta go.

3 steps forward and 2 7/8 backwards.

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 Posted: Sun Feb 14th, 2010 02:51 pm
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Well, 3 steps forward and 2 7/8 back, is still 1/8 a step towards where you want to be right?

Walk on!



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 Posted: Sun Feb 14th, 2010 03:18 pm
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don, my question is WHY. What exactly was wrong with what you were building ??????????

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 Posted: Sun Feb 14th, 2010 03:26 pm
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If memeory serves me correctly a guy named MIKE BLAZEK offered scale drawings of all those depots and other rio grand  c&s.....drgw stuff.  Seller might be listed in the narrow guage gazette, i have not bought one for 4 years so cannot say, but he used to and anybody reading it might look at the index to see.  For Don.

By the way these depots if i remember were not small and modelling just one takes some space !

you may want to look into some yahoo On3 groups for better info.

Reason for tearing up layout all that RGS ...k series locos you bought ?

mike

 

Paladin wrote:
I am thinking very seriously of changing my layout. I have not allowed enough space for structures and such like.  I have laid about 75% of the track and built about 95% on the benchwork.

I am trying to find original track plans for the following locations:--

Rico Depot

Telluride Depot

Durango Depot

Placerville Depot

Ouray Depot



I have spent a couple of hours searching the web, all to no avail

As I am working in On30 the above yards will be to large for the space of 20 x 20 feet. Thus they will need to be compressed and artistic license applied

I feel sure this info must be on the internet, but I can not locate.

Thanks  Don

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This is the site for Mike Blazek.

http://blazeksplan.com/

Very nice man.



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 Posted: Sun Feb 14th, 2010 10:50 pm
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Mike

There are several things I was starting to dislike about the layout.

Quite frankly I had ended up with far to much track and that did not leave enough space for structures or scenery. This was the main reason to rip it up and start over

As you mentioned, the K 28 did not like the vertical curves or radius less than 24 inch, I thought I could live with that and just run the K 28 on areas that were suited to it. But it was bugging the hell out of me.

There were several things I had done which I was not happy with, the wiring left a lot to be desired, I had used a flux that contained Zinc Chloride and then found that it is corrosive and should never be used for electronics, tried a couple of fixes but to no avail, this was a time bomb waiting to go off.

Also the benchwork on the lower levels was 40 inch and meant I was looking down upon it, it made the whole thing look toy like.

The good news is that I gained a little more knowledge about what to do and what not to do. So in that sense it has not been a complete loss.

So now for some sawing and banging and screwing and glueing and cussing.

Don







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 Posted: Mon Feb 15th, 2010 01:23 am
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And from the ashes of the old shall rise a new layout like a phoenix rising again.

 

Now about my original words too you a couple of years ago.........build the structures you want to use as dioramas first, then make the track come to them, not the other way of doing all track and then trying to fit the structures to it.

People seem to plan and plan and plan their layout, draw this and that, start building it, then tear it up because all that planning and research would not fit into the space they have. So, your not alone.

mike

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 Posted: Mon Feb 15th, 2010 02:39 am
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Don-I dare to disagree with 3434, you need to develop the track plan you want and one that is operationable and THEN start on the structures. I have built a bunch of layouts over the years and many of my old buddies have done the same thing and we all advise to establish the track plan and begin laying rails for REAL...not on some computer program, and then build to suit. Sure, some stuff won't fit and those structures can be made to work...don't try to make the track fit the structures, that is surely a way to have problems with operation.Mike is more into building structures than building layouts...I love to build structures also but the track comes first, then some scenery, then the buildings set in to the scenery. Of course, this is just my observation and just like a$$%^&**((, everybody's got one!       Woodie 

 

PS-remember-"less is more" and that refers to too much track and not enough scenery, etc.

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 Posted: Tue Feb 16th, 2010 09:04 am
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Here is where I am at.

Area 20 x 20   Scale On30

I am working with a mud map ( Stick in the sand). the track is drawn as a single track laying out the basic sort of thing. Radius no smaller than 27.5 inches.

Currently waiting on original plans for several RGS depots to see what can or can not be done

Structures selected on a wants list.  2 depots - roundhouse 5 stall reduced to 3 stall if I must. Turntable large enough to handle a K 28 - Coal tower - Water tank - Sand house and if possible a small mine of some sort then a trestle.

There will room for small village but I may just settle for more scenery. Thinking of big mountains, hundreds of trees and lots of rocks.

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 Posted: Wed Feb 17th, 2010 12:27 am
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Paladin wrote: Here is where I am at.


Structures selected on a wants list.  2 depots - roundhouse 5 stall reduced to 3 stall if I must. Turntable large enough to handle a K 28 - Coal tower - Water tank - Sand house and if possible a small mine of some sort then a trestle.

There will room for small village but I may just settle for more scenery. Thinking of big mountains, hundreds of trees and lots of rocks.

Don

 

IF YOU WANT LOTS OF SCENERY, JUST DO COLORADO rr'ing THROW IN MANY TRESTLES AND THINK ABOUT MAKING LOTS OF TREES AND POURING LOTS OF PLASTER FOR ROCK WORK.

THING IS THERE ARE MANY AREAS OF COLORADO TO MODEL AND THATS GOING TO TAKE SOME WORK TO FIGURE OUT WHICH AREA YOU WANT TO DO AND IF YOU WANT A MINE OR A STAMP MILL ANYWHERE ON THERE.

  OR JUST FREELANCE THE HELL OUT OF IT.

MIKE

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