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 Posted: Thu Mar 18th, 2010 01:21 pm
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without sounding mentally challenged, what the heck is 1/29 scale ???????????

and why can't the normal designations be used ??????????

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 Posted: Thu Mar 18th, 2010 02:03 pm
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Now now Mike...if anybody should understand about not normal, it is you. I do have to agree about all the scale designations floating around 45MM gauge. Uncle Bob has done work that fools the eyes..I thought his photos were the real thing. As for the scale, 1:29 is used to bring the gauge closer to standard gauge, some use 1:32 scale for the gauge and that is "less correct" than Bob's modeling. You know, 3/8 or 1:32 scale goes way, way back to the beginnings of model railroading..probably predating 1:48-O scale. Talk about different scales on one gauge-1:32, 1:29, 1:24, 1:25, 1:22.5, 1:20.3, 7/8, and who knows what others all run on the same 45MM track.. Harold warns about using letters for scale designations so I guess that's where this discussion ends. Just look at what happened with poor little Z scale, everyone thought it was indeed the smallest..then those crafty Japanese bring out T scale..the letters just don't seem to "cut the mustard" any more.

Uncle Bob-sorry to get off track, just my "train of thought" this morning..    Woodie

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 Posted: Thu Mar 18th, 2010 02:15 pm
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I truly give up, scale designation has finally gotten totally out of hand.

I surrender,  hands in the air and thong around my ankles.

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 Posted: Thu Mar 18th, 2010 09:32 pm
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OK---About this 1/29 scale thing.  I suppose "large scale" might include anything from O on up to even the huge stuff you can ride on but I think most people associate it with the confusing soup pot of scales that run on G-GUAGE (or #1standard or1.75in or 45mm--all the same, just different terms) TRACK.

I can think of 2 standard guage scales and at least 4 narrow guage scales which all use this same 1.75" track guage.  When used for standard guage, 1/32 IS the correct scale but not much is available in this scale.  However, in 1/29 there is really quite a lot and the prices are reasonable.  So why does Aristocraft and USA Trains make their product line 10% oversize?  I'm told it is so the GARDEN RAILROAD guys can mix this standard guage in with LGB's 1/22.5 narrow guage and everything end up about the same physical size. (1/32 ends up smaller, physically, and looks funny).

As for myself, I don't care.  I don't mix scales within my trains  but I use whatever I can find in the way of vehicles and such,  Smaller in the background/ larger in the fore ground. I use a LOT of forced prespective anyway.  I really don't mind the guage error, either.  My layout is built high(58in).  Things like that don't show much near eye level.

I do agree 1/29 could use a better name.  How about "3X" (say: three ex)  Why? Well, 1/29 is almost exacthy three times HO (at 1/87.1).  Everybody is familar with HO.  Knowing, up front that this scale is three times the size of HO gives anyone a good idea of what to expect.  We've used comparison names before.  HO, you will remember, stands for "half Oh".


If none of this works for you, just call it "G"!!       Almost everyone else does.  :bang:

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 Posted: Sat Mar 20th, 2010 12:35 pm
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madmike3434 wrote: without sounding mentally challenged, what the heck is 1/29 scale ???????????

Mike,

nothing easier than this, 1 measuring unit of the prototype equals 1/29 part of this measuring unit in the model and 1 measuring unit of the model equals 29 measuring units in the of the prototype!:)

But seriously, this is the basic mathematical description of scale. It works everytime, everywhere for cm and inches. What is not normal with this?

And what is normal? The Gn15, 0n30, 0n3 ... system? the english 16mm, 7mm .. scale, mixing up cm and inches? or the II, IIe, IIm, IIf, 0, 0e, 0m ... system?

Indeed, there is no common standard! And,for me it's good like this! Standards are often useful but they prevent you from thinking. If you have to think about all this scale/gauge relations it keeps your brain active.:brill:L:;)



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TRI-RAIL

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 Posted: Sun May 16th, 2010 06:08 pm
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WELL, GLORY BE!  I FINALLY WAS SUCCESSFUL POSTING A PICTURE!!!

NOW, IF I CAN JUST REMEMBER HOW I DID IT!!!



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 Posted: Sun May 16th, 2010 06:11 pm
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UNCLE BOB wrote: WELL, GLORY BE!  I FINALLY WAS SUCCESSFUL POSTING A PICTURE!!!

NOW, IF I CAN JUST REMEMBER HOW I DID IT!!!  
By the way,  It's a shot of Tri-Rail's commuter run with a two unit DMU.



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Howdy Unk-you got it! That's a very nice photo, of course my tastes run to funky old coaches with drunk Texicans hanging out the windows...but very nice indeed..

                                  Woodrow



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