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 Posted: Fri May 21st, 2010 06:40 pm
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Lucas Gargoloff



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Well, I started a new topic to discuss my future layout planning. I hope move to my new home in about one month, and am now thinking in the train room since a year ago :glad:.

I will do a room with 18 feet long (550 cm) x 12 feet wide (350 cm). I´m planning to do in the lower level a workshop, and in the upper level, the layout. I started in thinking in what I´ll like to do. A simple track with continuous running with reverse loops, a little yard and an area loaded with docks.

So, here is the first drawing...






Comments will be wellcome!!

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 Posted: Sat May 22nd, 2010 03:32 am
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That is looking good to me Lucas. I think that the stairway door will be a great place to stand. Standing there would cut down on the interruptions.:bg:


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Lucas I like it.

Glad to see you have set the layout at a good height, it gives a good viewing angle.

Now the fun can start.

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Lucas-

It looks like you have the two loops stacked on top one another.

What do you have in mind for a scenic treatment in this area?

The switches coming off the loops might make this area difficult to look convincing

I think I might have the switch going to the lower loop come off the main at the curve at 2.5 elevation, and then drop down to the loop behind some trees, or whatever to hide it. The loop would be completely hidden.

This would mean more hidden track, but it would possibly be more convincing in that the train would not look like it was ending back where it started.

What say you JdF?

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 Posted: Sat May 22nd, 2010 11:12 pm
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Thanks for watching guys!

Herb, this is the first drawing, any help will be wellcome, I never designed a layout so, I think this is full of errors!! LMAO :bang:

I understand what are you saying, I drew a loop over the other. But what are you thinking when mentioned the switch? Please heeelp!!!L:

For the scenery I´m thinking about the Rio Grande look, same as here in the Patagonia.



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Lucas-

Perhaps my printed, then edited, then photographed version of you plan will make what I mean clear



Track comes down left wall gradually disappearing behind trees or other scenery.

Have yard area at bottom of plan high enough so that the exposed loop at the right end has enough clearance to have the dotted hidden loop under it.

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Lucas

I wonder if the third lead to the turntable is needed. I would think it better with only two leads, that area would not be so cluttered.

Am I correct in assuming the base height is 53 inches and the Roundhouse is 15 inches above that level making a total height of 68 inches. Wow hope you have very very long legs. :P

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Don=

I believe that his elevations are in mm. When I first looked at his plan, I thought that his loops in the lower RH corner were stacked above each other, until I realized that 20 mm was not enough height difference. I think that he intended to have one circle in the corner, with all the switches coming off it.

Then again perhaps there is 200 mm difference, in which case there was two stacked loops, as I have drawn

I agree with you about the turntable leads. I would make the lowest track just a spur, stopping short of the turntable, and move the circle, which I take to be a watertower, to the track with the rectangles, which represent fuel(?). No point in having to change tracks to fuel/water the loco, should all be in one place.

Lucas?


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Lucas,

You are right where I plan to be this fall. I will be working on concepts for my layout and will start a opinion thread to extract the combined knowledge of our fellow members just as you are doing. Nothing better to have input from those who have fallen into a situation and worked out of it. Most times a better process comes out of it and when shared with others, benefits everyone.

This is why I find this and other forums so interesting. It really beats the old days of club meeting, conventions ...etc. to share data. It is now so flooded with information at times it is even overwhelming.

But all these options can only make the adventure more interesting.

What software did you use in the creation of your posted plan?

Does it support 3D elevations, this would help with some earlier questions posted by Herb.

I agree with Herb on the 2 legs into the turntable as opposed to 3. The "KISS" method seams to be the best from the layouts I have attended. There are some fairly simple layouts that provide the ability to have operation, yet sparse enough to still look like it could of been real. Most great looking layouts pull this off fantastically. The trick on our journey will be to achieve this in our own little world.

The adventure begins ~ congratulations!




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 Posted: Tue May 25th, 2010 09:23 pm
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 Lucas,

If your software can export, in a CAD neutral format (STEP) there maybe a way I can quickly get you the views you may be looking for.

With the program I use (Autodesk Inventor) this type of model is fairly easy to manipulate. A example from my first concepts is attached

 

 





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