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 Posted: Sat Sep 11th, 2010 11:08 pm
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W C Greene
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DW-just pull over on the side of the road and send us the stinkin' pictures! Unless you want to try posting them WHILE you are driving, that would be a hoot.

Remember that if you are coming this way again, call me and I will make sure Muj and I have nothing going on so we can run trains.

                        Hasta la vista & boney tacos....Woodie



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 Posted: Sun Sep 12th, 2010 01:09 am
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Woodie, there are a few things I have to draw the line at. Digging out my models while driving is one of them. I'll take pictures of the view outside my office all day long as shown on my Trucking Blog... but that's as far as my photography pursuits go while piloting the Beast. :)

Unfortunately for Bob, I thought I had a photo of my engine before this conversion began but it turns out I don't. And my second new Bachmann Porter is at my place in OKC where I'm not. So doing a side by side photo can't be provided.

Anywayz, for Bob's benefit... 1:20n3 uses 15mm (about 9/16 of an inch) to the foot and 1:17n30 uses 18mm (about 3/4 of an inch) to the foot. I'm fluent in metric Bob being that I'm married to a Canadian and have sorta, kinda lived there for the past six years. :)

When converting an engine in a freelanced manner as I'm doing the primary goal is to "grow" those main components that the people have to access. In the case of an engine that means the cab. Everything else can remain the same for the most part.

BTW, a six foot tall figure in 1:17 is 4 inches tall. In 1:20 about 3-1/2 inches. A difference of 1/2 inch.


Okay, the original cab's actual measurements (not counting roof overhang) in inches with the 1:20 scale measurements in parenthesis...

Length 3-1/4" (5ft 6 inches)
Width 4" (6 ft 9 inches)
Height 4" (6 ft 9 inches)


The new cab's actual measurements (not counting roof overhang) in inches with the 1:17 scale measurements in parenthesis...

Length 3-1/2" (5 ft)
Width 4-1/4" (6 ft inches)
Height 4-7/8" (6 ft 9 inches)


I grabbed this photo off the net to give an idea of how the Bachmann began life... Sorry it's small but it's all I could find of a good side view...



Next photo shows my 1:17n30 conversion with it's new cab, boiler and side tanks...



Old cab on new engine... (yes, it's on backwards as it won't fit over my new boiler otherwise... lol)...



Original cab beside my new cab...



Both engines are about 11 inches in length. I hope this gives a you a better idea of the differences between a 1:20 scale 36 inch gauge loco and a 1:17 scale 30 inch gauge loco.

Long post huh? And to think I did it all on my little iPhone... take photos, upload to Photobucket, copy, paste, type in everything with one finger... I iz awesome. :cool:

Last edited on Sun Sep 12th, 2010 01:21 am by Dwayne



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 Posted: Sun Sep 12th, 2010 12:19 pm
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Thank you DW! I like the concept very inspiring.  You did a awesome job posting and explaining. Thank you again.:bow:



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 Posted: Sun Sep 12th, 2010 12:55 pm
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Bob, my pleasure.

I suppose that working in 17n30 instead of 20n3 probably doesn't make much sense, especially to folks in the 20n3 camp on the large scale forums I visit. Admittedly there is only a 17% size difference and not much difference between 30 inch gauge and 36 inch gauge.

My dabbling in On30 in the past is really why 17n30 appealled to me. It's really On30 on steroids tossed on dirt. On30 stuff provides a lot of ideas and inspiration with what I'm trying to accomplish.



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 Posted: Sun Sep 12th, 2010 06:39 pm
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Once again, this brings up Harold's "don't need no stinkin' letters" rule. It is far easier (for me at least) to imagine 1:17, 1:20.3, 1:35, 1:48, etc. than to ponder what the hell F scale is...G scale..and all the incarnations of O scale (British, US, car collectors). How about this one: F G #1 with a little Gn15 thrown in for good measure.

Harold is onto something............               Woodie



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 Posted: Sun Sep 12th, 2010 08:44 pm
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I guess that means you, Harold and I are anti-Sesame Street?:)



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 Posted: Mon Sep 13th, 2010 12:54 am
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Today I finally managed to get the side tanks mounted to my lokie.



More pictures and details on the Updates section of KLM blog here:

http://17n30daze2.blogspot.com/



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Gentlemen -

I had the distinct pleasure of having dinner and a BS session with Dwayne today
and got to see the above loco up close and personal, as they say.

The pictures do not do the workmanship justice. The pieces are square, the cuts are neat, and the proportions are just right--all this done while sitting on a bunk in a truck cab.

When he gets a decent place to work in a couple years --LOOK OUT-- he's going to do even better, and make a pile of really fine models.


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 Posted: Wed Sep 15th, 2010 02:13 am
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Aw shucks Herbie, thanks. It was great meeting you too. :)



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 Posted: Sat Sep 25th, 2010 02:11 pm
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I picked up my second Bachmann 1:20 scale 0-4-0 Porter so I could post a few side by side photos to give a better idea of the difference between my 1:17n30 conversion and the original 1:20n3 model.






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