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My latest acquisition came in the other day: an Accucraft Ruby live steamer in kit form. As I'm admiring the parts I got to thinking that it seemed a bit 'big' as a 1:20.3 model and 'too big' for 1:13.7 scale I've been messing with.

It suddenly dawned on me that it would make a neat little 30 inch unit. Some calculating revealed that 45mm track used to represent 30" rail comes out to 1:16.9... or 1:17 for ease of simplicity.

So... I've decides to shiftgears slightly and begin to model in 'Dn30' (had to designate itwith something... why not use the initial of my first name, lol). :)

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DW-YOU IS THE KING OF THE "BIG STUFF"...1:16 scale...you know, there are auto kits and military figures in that scale so it might not be as hard as you think! Are you gonna r/c-ize Ruby?

Perspiring minds think they want to know..............Woodrow

D stands for DOH! When Homer whacks his skull! Wow...Dn30

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10-4 on installing RC on the Ruby.

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In 1:18 scale you will find a lot of cars, motorbikes, figures and military models also.

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DW wrote:
So... I've decides to shiftgears slightly and begin to model in 'Dn30' (had to designate itwith something... why not use the initial of my first name, lol). :)


Sounds good,  1/17!  Very interesting.  It will be unique yet there ia a abundance of stuff on which to kitbash and scratchbuilding in that large a scale should be a lot of fun.  I say go for it---GOOD LUCK

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Latest news aside from putting together the Accucraft Ruby is the acquisition of s new Bachmann 0-4-0T Porter and a Lionel 0-6-0T ($30 on eBay).

The new Porter was completely dismanted down to the motor/chassis last night as I spent the night at the truckstop in Troy, Illinois. My plan is to replace the boiler/side tank structure with a PVC 'boiler'. An 8 AA stick type holder will be fit into the new boiler for power. A Losi ESC will handle control aspects. A larger cab will be fabricated to reflect the 17% larger dimensions of 1:17 scale compared to the original 1:20.3 scale. A small four wheel tender will be built since it no longer will be a tank engine (the Ruby fills that niche).

The 0-6-0T Lionel is destined for a complete makeover as well since it currently wears a funky Christmas paint scheme. A two wheel pilot truck will be added to turn it into a diminutive Mogul. Likely it too will lose the tanks and be given a smaller diameter boiler to replace the existing chunky boiler. Battery power and RC of course will be added.

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Way to go Duane!

I was wondering if you were still roaming the highways, or had settled down on your acreage.

Keylock still with you?

Keep us posted, and send pictures --if possible



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10-4 on the roaming and Keylock riding along. Sadly he now has skin cancer and we're dealing with that battle. He'll be 12 in August so health issues are a fact of his senior years now.

And of course Brenda and I are still working on her immigration to the US. We're getting closer to that time. I'm thinking she'll have a green card by October. Stupid part of this process is that while the paperwork moves slowly through governmental red tape she can't be in the US. Stupid policy. Oh well.

I'm hoping to start construction on my cabin by this time next year. And then begin laying rail soon after :)

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Previously I had mentioned that I was planning on changing out the Bachmann Porter from a tank engine to one with a tender. That may or may not happen.

Last night I scanned the drawing that came with the new engine so I could play around with it on my pc.



Aside from the larger cab, the changes are subtle and give it a less cluttered appearance.

I know you guys would like actual photos but for now the drawing will have to suffice... for now.:)

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Dwayne-

I think that you have increased the "funky" quality of the loco immensely with your proposed changes. The only other thing that I would consider would be a trailing truck (with spoked wheels, of course) under the cab. Just getting rid of those ugly couplers is an improvement. Build, buddy, build!!

And please stop posting the pix of your land--every time that I see that photo, I sit and stare at it, and I start to see little tracks going off into the distance ;)

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What I'm thinking of doing is buying a second loco and turning it into a Mogul. Some research on the Lionel 0-6-0 that I bought reveals that it has a few 'issues'. It may simply become a model of a derelict engine that is beyond repair by the KLM shops.

The photo on my blog is an eastward view. Just beyond the trees is a shallow, granite rock strewn ravine (think trestle). Beyond that is a rise that leads towards small hill covered with pines where I plan on building a small pergola. The distance between the two is about five hundred feet with a total rise of about fifteen feet.

My plan is to run track between the cabin and the pergola for a point to point layout. The pathway will parallel the track most of the way providing for operators to keep pace with their trains. Add in a short passing siding or two as well as a few revenue spur lines and I'll be kept busy.

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While sitting at the truckstop in Troutman, NC yesterday I began to fabricate a pair of frame rails for the drivers that came with the Bachmann porter.



Originally the plan was to modify the existing frame and components with the results being a shorter, more compact 1:17 scale backwoods steam critter. But as I tore the engine down the other day it dawned on me that it would be more FUN to build a completely new engine only using the drivers and motor.

As much as I want to run trains, I'm a long way from even beginning to lay track on my five acres. So this is how I play with trains... slowly building a new critter in the bunk of my Kenworth. :)

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After a long day of some 450 miles I spent a couple of hours fabricating pieces of 2mm styrene for the steam chests that will sit atop the steam cylinders. I found a couple of plastic paper roll spools the other day on top of an ATM machine that were the diameter I wanted that will work as the cylinders. I'll take some pictures the next time I work on them.

I also have to figure out what I'm going to use as the ends of the cylinders which need to have a slightly larger diameter of the cylinders.

Progress is slow because of my busy schedule but I'm liking how it's shaping up. :)

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DW-GREAT STUFF! I really love the one about finding styrene rolls on top of an ATM and being able to use them for cylinders! "Outside the box" ain't the phrase for this...throw the stinkin' box away! I have found crap, junk, trash just laying around and much of it looks to have a real modeling potential. I still haven't found a use for road kill or cow poop, but you can never tell. Keep it up.

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Thanks Woodie. Still searching for 'something' to use for the ends of the steam cylinders. I bought a few 1/2" pvc caps at Home Depot that may work. I forgot to bring the 'cylinder' with me when I parked my truck in Detroit for some days off in Windsor so it was an eyeballing purchase... with the hope that the diameter is the same or close to that of the cylinder.

If they are then it's a simple matter of cutting them down to the desired length and glue it all together and continue with building the steam chests atop the cylinders...

As I knew would happen with this project progress is slow and goes in spurts. After driving eight to ten hours every day my intentions to work on it are there but my mind is a dead mass of gray matter. :y: 

Because the KLM is still nothing but a concept and other issues (my wife's pending immigration to the US) take priority the train building get's regulated to the status of 'when I feel like it'. Even my brand new Accucraft Ruby steam locomotive kit hasn't been begun. It just rides around the country in my Kenworth waiting for me to start on it. So it goes...

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Still plugging along with this project... slowly. Finally put together the steam cylinders as shown in the photo below. The originals can be seen just to the front of the wheelsets with the new cylinders attached.



As I've been plugging along I was bothered with the idea of building everything on a full length frame which is visible above. So after looking around a few other places on the internetz I came up with the plan to build a small frame to hold the wheelsets then attach everything else as components to that frame. This way, if my shade tree engineering doesn't work I'm able to start over on just that one defective component. Each component will be bolted to the frame for removal in the future if necessary.

One of the reasons I like working in Large Scale... the hardware store is my hobby shop. :)

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As I sit here in Laredo drinking cold Coronas while listening to Classical music in my Kenworth... I've made some progress on my Bachmann Porter.

It has become less of a scratchbuild and more of a kitbash. Either way, it'll be something nobody else has.

Below are a couple of pics of parts held together with a rubber band and binder clips just to give an idea of how this build is shaping up.





The engine is about one inch shorter overall than the original even though 1:17n30 is about 17% larger than 1:20.3n3.

I'm reusing the smokebox though it's been shortened about 1/4". Also reused is the firebox. A piece of 1-1/2" pvc 4-1/4" long makes up the boiler.

I'm going to build a new wood cab but show the old one here with a few spacers at the bottom to give an idea of the size. It isn't quite as long as the new cab will be as evidenced by the new styrene floor holding it up. The cab sits about 3/4" closer to the rear drive than the original configuration.

New cylinders made from pvc replace what I considered too small originals. A new pilot deck is visible with cylinder supports. The new cylinders will be bolted to the pilot deck with actual hardware. The cylinders are about 5/8" closer to the front driver. The original connecting rods are being reused though it required being moving the original brackets rearward about 1/4".

The motor has been rotated 90° to a vertical position from it's original horizontal position below the cab. It's gearbox housing is visible just above the rear driver. Details added later will hide it from view.

I still have to make new, shorter side water tanks that will hold the AA batteries for powering this engine. The Losi ESC radio cintrol unit will easily fit into the boiler with plenty of space.

I still have a ways to go with this little lokie. But it's coming along. Not only is this little engine built in a scale nobody else is working in... it's being entirely constructed inside a Kenworth T600. I may not be able to have my own outdoor 'rails on dirt' layout for now, but by gawd I'm going to still play with trains. :)

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Doing good Dwayne!

How thick is the styrene under the cab and smokebox?


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Thanks Herb. Using 2mm thick styrene.

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After eight days in Texas I finally made my escspe north across the Red River to my beloved home state of Oklahoma. Free at last, free at last! :)

I had enough time to pick up some solvent when my buddy picked me up at the truckstop for dinner. He brought me a second Bachmann Porter I had ordered a few weeks ago. This one may be transformed into a Forney.

Of course my stay in Oklahoma was short as I'm supposed to be in Detroit by 1400EST tomorrow. After covering 709 miles today I actually had a few minutes to work on the current kitbash and attach the firebox to the pvc section that will be the boiler. But only after ordering myself a Taig lathe...

http://www.taigtools.com/mlathe.html

Knowing very little about lathe work I guess in time I'm going to learn. Of course for now it goes into storage with all my other things until I get my place built. Cost through a Taig dealer in Missouri came up to $479 plus shipping. I'm sure that I'll be spending more on accessories eventually. L:

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Wellz, for those of you who are following my kitbash of the large scale Bachmann Porter, some progress is being made. 

I built a second pair of new cylinders. The main body is 1/2" pvc. The end caps are 2mm thick styrene glued to the pvc ends. To enhance the endcaps shape I glued strips of .030x.080 styrene strips around the ends butting up against the 2mm caps. Once the glue dried the ends were sanded to give them definition. Later some Bondo filler will be used to dress them to a smoother contour. Spare screws from a cannabilized Radio Shack ZipZap r/c car were used to attach the cylinders to the frame. The pilot frame is also bolted to the Bachmann frame as can be seen in the photo.



The steam chests still need to be fabricated from styrene.

Unhappy with the boiler I had been making up out of three seperate parts (a piece of pvc pipe, the smokebox from the Bachmann as well as the firebox)... I opted to start over with a new boiler. 

This photo shows the new boiler sans a smokebox cover which I need to build.



It's a longer piece of pvc pipe with a piece of .030 styrene sheet wrapped around it's midsection. This gives me a new smokebox and firebox. I'm working on the new back bulkhead of the firebox at the moment. Unlike the Bachmann firebox this new firebox will flare out a bit at the base. A front bulkhead still needs fabrication. And a sheet of .030 sheet will complete the exterior of the firebox when it is formed over the two bulkheads. 

Just for fun... this is my workspace in the bunk of my Kenworth.



Oh... my buddy called me yesterday to let me know my new Taig lathe came in yesterday. I'm wondering if my 1500 watt inverter in the Kenworth will power it? Just kidding... no room for it.

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well DW, thats a very interesting build you have going on. I shall have to continue to watch your progress.

I like the idea of running this D scale outdoors and should be a a lot of fun.  I have looked at a few outdoor layouts and they are most interesting.  Also riding size scale garden railroads  #1 gauge ? interest me also.

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Thanks Mike. D scale is just my way of being silly and giving 1:17n30 a designation. I've seen some impressive small outdoor layouts. A friend of mine in Oregon has a simple dog bone shaped layout with less than a hundred feet of track. You wouldn't know it unless you see it in person. The photos he posts on the forum he hangs out on seem to give the impression of a much larger layout. His scale is 1:13n2.

I like large scale because I've got a five acre table top and I luke being outdoors. The two work in unison for me. Plus the local hatdware store makes a good hobby shop. :)

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Yesterday while sitting at the truck stop in Kenly, NC I decided to determine what kind of run time I would get from my planned used of AA NiMH batteries in my Bachmann conversion.

Info here.

After ten hours of continuous running, my watching 3:10 to Yuma, playing on the net and basically doing nothing while waiting for a load assignment that never came... they outlasted me at 10+ hours.

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The Keylock Lumber & Mining Co. took delivery of a brand new Accucraft 1:20n3 'Ida' live steam engine yesterday evening.



This now gives the KLM two live steamers. The first, an Accucraft 'Ruby' kit is still awaiting assembly in the shops when time allows.

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DW-

I know that you haven't run IDA yet, or obviously RUBY-- but what kind of run times does the manufacturer say they are capable of?

If things are proportioned correctly, they will run out of butane before the water gets low, so as not to run the boiler dry- but I am sure that the manufacturer has that worked out. My guess is that all the water is in the boiler, and the butane fuel is in the side/saddle tanks.


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Herb, from what I've read on other forums a new engine averages about 15 minutes run time. As it breaks in this increases to 25-30 minutes. Typically these engines run a bit fast unless outfitted with rc control. Also new engines starting this year come with 1/2 inch pistons vs. 3/8 inch pistons in older models. This gives them better slow running characteristics. As for water levels they do tend to run out of fuel before water. I plan on installing Goodall valves on both engines to fascillitate topping off the water while under steam.

It'll be awhile before I ever actually fire up the Ida. Like everything else in my life that is in a holding pattern waiting for my wife to get into the states. So I buy things and put it all into storage. I'm an armchair model railroader to the extreme.

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DW-I wouldn't call you an armchair modeler, you actually build stuff! Many of the folks that I consider "armchair" are content to watch and inform others of what they are doing wrong...in other words-PITNICKERS (my dyslexic term).

As Dizzy Dean once said-"it ain't braggin' if you can do it!"

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Woodie, thanks. I'm trying considering my mobile lifestyle. Not easy being in this hobby without some track to actually run trains on. Some day...

Herbie, actually the saddle tank is nothing more than a dummy tank (same for the side tanks on the Ruby). It's nothing more than a piece of sheetmetal sitting atop the boiler. If you look at the photo below you'll notice the water fill valve at the top rear of the 'saddle tank'. The water actually goes into the boiler tube surrounding the burner.



The butane tank is the vertical black cylinder with the knurled knob protruding rearward. In front of the butane tank is the brass lubricator.

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Here's a photo showing my Bachmann 'sparky' steam engine conversion beside Ida. The old Bachman cab is sitting on top of the new cab floor. It'll be replaced with a new cab that is approximately 3/4 inch taller to bring the dimensions into line with 1:17 scale.



It's obvious that the Ida's cab is too small. Another project (actually two as the Ruby's cab will be replaced as well) to keep me busy. And of course there is the other new Bachmann sparky that I'm wanting to conveet into a 2-6-0 Mogul. :)

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DW-that cab ain't too small, I love skull crackers! Actually, it does look OK but it's YOUR lokie after all..Great work so far.

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Worked on my 'sparky' steam engine today a bit here in OKC while taking a day off from driving.

Constructed the firebox, boxed in the cylinder support structure and added cylinder steam chests.

The space beneath the firebox is large enough to house the Losi ESC. I hadn't considered this location prior to doing the firebox but then the lightbulb turned on between my ears. :!:

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Coming along nicely Dwayne!

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Thanks. I'm having fun with it. :)

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Looking pretty sweet there, DW.

Darn nice job you're doing on that build.

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Thanks for the kind words James.

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Progress continues on my little lokie as I sat here in W. Memphis waiting to deliver my current load of dogfood later this afternoon...



Began the costruction of the cab. Front and sides are 2mm thick styrene. Corners are 1/4 inch L shaped strips. The cab will be removeable. As the loco will 'operate' in the temperate climate of Oklahoma the cab is to remain mostly open.

Next step is a roof.

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The cab is nearing completion of major components be put together.



Smaller details still need to be added but for now this will do.

Next up... side tanks. :)

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Began constructing the tanks this evening.



They're simply resting on the lokie loosely in the photo. Bracketry needs to be fabbed still.

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DW, I love the new concept.  Now that's true  garden railroading!

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Bob, if it were 'garden' railroading for me the plants would be destined for untimely deaths. I have no green thumb. :)

I prefer the term 'outdoor railroading' or 'rails on dirt'.

This has been a fun project. I've done some kitbashing in smaller scales. This is my first attempt at fabricating to this extent from scratch. And what works in smaller scales requires new thinking on my part to be robust enough for outdoor use.

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Hey I can appreciate that," rails to dirt".  Water rates are sky high here. Besides gardening would interrupt running  of the train.:)

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:) A lot of the outdoor stuff I see over in the UK is appealing but not really my style. I guess I'm just more into the rough and rowdy that comes with living in a redneck place like Oklahoma. As it is I don't believe I have a blade of grass on my five acres and aim to keep it that way since I don't want to buy a lawn mower or waste time mowing better spent playing with trains (or shooting my guns). With nothing but trees on the place very little sunlight reaches the carpet of pine needles and leaves.

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Building continues yesterday and today. Added a steam dome and boiler bands. Completed a few detail items. More info on the 'Updates' section of my blog. :cool:

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I haven't worked on the lokie for a few days because of my schedule driving through the night and trying to catch up on sleep.

When I decided to start working in 17n30 I realized it would be a lonely path. Everyone else is into 20n3 or 13n2. I suppose I'm a pioneer since nobody has gone down this path from all indications.

One of the reasons I liked 17n30 was that like 13n2, I could use the many 20n3 engines available for conversion. Unlike 13n2 where the converted engines have a bit of a cartoonish appearance, 17n30 looks 'narrow gaugish' more in keeping with North American style narrow gauge.

Whether or not any other modeler joins me in working in 17n30 remains to be seen. With many modelers interested in Colorado narrow gauge or Maine two footers maybe nobody else will work in 17n30.

Being a pioneer can be lonely. But the reward of blazing a new trail is exciting. :cool:

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DW I am trying to under stand the scales you are converting.  Is it 1:20 scaled to 1:17? running on G scale rail?  I get lost when it comes down to talking in MM. I'm just a :dope: when it comes to those measurements.  I like the concept it intrigues me. L:getting the itch...:thumb:

Whats the chance's of seeing a comparison photo?

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Yeah Bob. I'll take anything that runs on "g gauge" track which is 45mm between the railheads. Right now Fn3 (1:20.3 scale) is the predominent scale in the large scale community thanks to Bachmann's sizeable offering of engines in that scale.

My scale of 1:17 is slightly larger but instead of being 3 foot narrow gauge it's 2 foot, 6 inch (30 inches) gauge yet still uses 45mm track.

Since I pkayed with On30 before I thought it would be neat to grow that scale by a factor of 3 (approx) and toss the rails on my five acre "benchwork".

HO scale engines can be converted to On30 since both use the same track. In my case the 1:20n3 stuff can be converted to 1:17n30.

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Sorry for the double post. My iPhone has a hiccup. :)




What double post ???

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Bob, I'll post some photos for size comparison later when I'm not driving. :)

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Thanks.

 

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DW-just pull over on the side of the road and send us the stinkin' pictures! Unless you want to try posting them WHILE you are driving, that would be a hoot.

Remember that if you are coming this way again, call me and I will make sure Muj and I have nothing going on so we can run trains.

                        Hasta la vista & boney tacos....Woodie

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Woodie, there are a few things I have to draw the line at. Digging out my models while driving is one of them. I'll take pictures of the view outside my office all day long as shown on my Trucking Blog... but that's as far as my photography pursuits go while piloting the Beast. :)

Unfortunately for Bob, I thought I had a photo of my engine before this conversion began but it turns out I don't. And my second new Bachmann Porter is at my place in OKC where I'm not. So doing a side by side photo can't be provided.

Anywayz, for Bob's benefit... 1:20n3 uses 15mm (about 9/16 of an inch) to the foot and 1:17n30 uses 18mm (about 3/4 of an inch) to the foot. I'm fluent in metric Bob being that I'm married to a Canadian and have sorta, kinda lived there for the past six years. :)

When converting an engine in a freelanced manner as I'm doing the primary goal is to "grow" those main components that the people have to access. In the case of an engine that means the cab. Everything else can remain the same for the most part.

BTW, a six foot tall figure in 1:17 is 4 inches tall. In 1:20 about 3-1/2 inches. A difference of 1/2 inch.


Okay, the original cab's actual measurements (not counting roof overhang) in inches with the 1:20 scale measurements in parenthesis...

Length 3-1/4" (5ft 6 inches)
Width 4" (6 ft 9 inches)
Height 4" (6 ft 9 inches)


The new cab's actual measurements (not counting roof overhang) in inches with the 1:17 scale measurements in parenthesis...

Length 3-1/2" (5 ft)
Width 4-1/4" (6 ft inches)
Height 4-7/8" (6 ft 9 inches)


I grabbed this photo off the net to give an idea of how the Bachmann began life... Sorry it's small but it's all I could find of a good side view...



Next photo shows my 1:17n30 conversion with it's new cab, boiler and side tanks...



Old cab on new engine... (yes, it's on backwards as it won't fit over my new boiler otherwise... lol)...



Original cab beside my new cab...



Both engines are about 11 inches in length. I hope this gives a you a better idea of the differences between a 1:20 scale 36 inch gauge loco and a 1:17 scale 30 inch gauge loco.

Long post huh? And to think I did it all on my little iPhone... take photos, upload to Photobucket, copy, paste, type in everything with one finger... I iz awesome. :cool:

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Thank you DW! I like the concept very inspiring.  You did a awesome job posting and explaining. Thank you again.:bow:

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Bob, my pleasure.

I suppose that working in 17n30 instead of 20n3 probably doesn't make much sense, especially to folks in the 20n3 camp on the large scale forums I visit. Admittedly there is only a 17% size difference and not much difference between 30 inch gauge and 36 inch gauge.

My dabbling in On30 in the past is really why 17n30 appealled to me. It's really On30 on steroids tossed on dirt. On30 stuff provides a lot of ideas and inspiration with what I'm trying to accomplish.

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Once again, this brings up Harold's "don't need no stinkin' letters" rule. It is far easier (for me at least) to imagine 1:17, 1:20.3, 1:35, 1:48, etc. than to ponder what the hell F scale is...G scale..and all the incarnations of O scale (British, US, car collectors). How about this one: F G #1 with a little Gn15 thrown in for good measure.

Harold is onto something............               Woodie

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I guess that means you, Harold and I are anti-Sesame Street?:)

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Today I finally managed to get the side tanks mounted to my lokie.



More pictures and details on the Updates section of KLM blog here:

http://17n30daze2.blogspot.com/

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Gentlemen -

I had the distinct pleasure of having dinner and a BS session with Dwayne today
and got to see the above loco up close and personal, as they say.

The pictures do not do the workmanship justice. The pieces are square, the cuts are neat, and the proportions are just right--all this done while sitting on a bunk in a truck cab.

When he gets a decent place to work in a couple years --LOOK OUT-- he's going to do even better, and make a pile of really fine models.


Herbie 

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Aw shucks Herbie, thanks. It was great meeting you too. :)

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I picked up my second Bachmann 1:20 scale 0-4-0 Porter so I could post a few side by side photos to give a better idea of the difference between my 1:17n30 conversion and the original 1:20n3 model.




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DW, I have to say your reconstruction of the loco is a MAJOR improvement from the original.  Nice piece. Thanx for the pic's!

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Thanks. I knew you were interested in side by side photos. My lokie is getting closer to being finished. A few small details, installation of the Losi ESC & battery pack and then paint.

The second new Porter may become a 2-6-0 if I can find a set of drive wheels on the cheap.

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Here's a clearer photo I just took wth my camera instead of my iPhone.

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A small amount of progress made on the lokie yesterday while stuck in Laredo until Monday morning.

Contrived a way for the smokebox cover to attach to the front end so that it is removed easily in order to install and remove the battery holder for the 4AA NiMH batteries I'm using which is visible in the photo below...



I glued a block of styrene to the backside of the smokebox cover. Attached to that is a strip of brass bent into the shape of a C. The two tabs presss snuggly against the inside of the boiler to hold it in place.

Completed boxing in the front end of the frame and built a wood bumper using 1/4" x 1/4" wood, brass bolts, nuts and washers...

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I haven't been working on the lokie for over a week. I was waiting around in Laredo, TX and had just added the smokestack when my wife called to let me know one of my best friends passed away. I was able to get from Laredo to Sudbury, Ontario in two and a half days to attend his funeral and had the honor of being asked by his family to be a pallbearer.

Anywayz, to bring this post up to date the addition of this one little item really makes this critter look the part of a steam engine.

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The loco is looking great DW.  So Sorry to hear of your friends passing.  I lost my Father in law a week ago and another friend this last week. totaling  3 in the last 30 days. Modeling hasn't been on my mind no doubt

Your work is inspiring to say the least.   :Salute: 2.5 days Wow!  

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Thanks Bob. It's taking shape and I definitely enjoy doing this type of modeling. No way I'd ever go back to "table top" stuff... even though I have 20/20 vision. :)

Yeah, I boogied. That last day out I drove the truck 631 miles, then did another 489 to Sudbury doing 70-80mph. 1120 total in 20 hours.

Losing my dog Keylock and my friend in a five week span has been hard on me. :(

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Alrighty, I spent a bit of time working on the next addition of the lokie as I sat at the truckstop in Hesperia, Kalifornia this evening.

Followers of this project here on FR and on my blog may have noticed that I mentioned the cab having an open, airy design. One thing missing has been a fuel source. Most side tank and saddle tank steamers have a fuel source of some kind, usually in the form of wood or coal bins within the cab.

Those bins have been absent from my lokie... for a reason.

Oklahoma is known as a source of oil production. And with the KLM being located in the Sooner state the use of oil as fuel appealled to me, especially considering that in the last days of steam across the nation oil was being used as a source of fuel to replace wood and coal.

When I saw the first photo below that a modeler on the SE (Seven-Eighths) forum posted as inspiration for one of his kitbashes I knew I wanted to do something similar.



The above photo is supposedly of a loco south of the border. I dunno. Regardless, it gives credence to the fact that for every "idea" we have as modelers... there likely was an actual prototype in the real world.

So tonight I added the fuel source for my lokie... an oil drum mounted on I-beam channels that the KLM shops fabricated and welded to the top of the side tanks.





Oil lines as a detail item aling with a fill cap still need to be added but for now my lokie has a fuel source... good ol' Okie crude. :)

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Dwayne

If you hadn't posted the prototype pix, I'da never believed it!

Now you need some place to carry sand (in front of the side tanks?  On the pilot beam?) and you are good to go.


Herbie  :old dude:

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Herbicide, the KLM shop guy will figure something out. He's a resourceful cuss. ;)

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It's been over a month since my slacker self has updated this thread. Employment issues got in the way of play.:td:

Anywayz, my new job has me aboding in a small apartment a couple of days a week when I'm not driving a Peterbilt around. To update this thread I snapped a pic of four of my five lokies...



Left to right is an Accucraft "Ida" live steamer. Next is an older 1:22 scale Bachmann Porter acquired from our Herbicide. Next up is a brand new Bachmann Porter in 1:20 scale. And finally my conversion lokie that started out as a new Bachmann Porter a few months ago. Not shown is my accucraft "Ruby" which is a kit that I have yet to even begin assembling. See... I'm a slacker. :)

So now that I have a dwelling I'm thinking of building a small, shelf style INDOOR switching layout in 1:17n30. If I do this it'll be a modular affair... maybe held up by a bunch of tripods I could steal from a Texan south of me a few hours. ;)

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Neat lineup of pokey lokies! One of these days you will be runnin' in the woods and dealing with Okie bird poop and twigs on the track. Man, that's the life. Now, what's all this tripod business? I get a cut on every tripod sold in the Dallas city limits.

                                     the Outlaw troublemaker 

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Since I have the weekend off I decided to work on my lokie by hooking up the Losi ESC along with 4AA batteries to it. Below is a link on You Tube of the engine running across my kitchen floor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukzWQ5_cz3k&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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Good heavens! That's unnatural! If you just added steering to the front drivers, you could go "off road" and make your own tracks. Har de har...

                                Woodrow

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Way to go DW!!!!

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Harrumph!

Not much of a locomotive if it can't push a refrigerator aside! :P


Herbacide  :old dude:

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Yeh - but - DW didn't give it much room to build up a head of steam!
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Man, oh man, oh man... tough crowd.:bang:

The way I see it my tiny apartment beats what I'm accustomed to these past several years. :)

Anywayz, I hope to have all the RC components mounted soon. I ordered a couple of Losi male/female connectors from my local RC shop as I need to run longer electrical wiring than what comes attached to the stock Losi ESC.

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I managed to come up with some spare connectors to complete the installation of the RC components in my lokie. In the link below the lokie running across the carpet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an-6dGz0aw4&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Now all that is left to do is detail this little critter and then get it painted. :)

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Grass covered track!

What realism!

ETA of rail is 11/18

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ebtm3 wrote:


ETA of rail is 11/18

Herb  :old dude:


10-4. I'll send you a check. :)

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Tonight I decided to take a break from my current lokie shown on this thread and begin assembling my Accucraft "Ruby" live steamer kit that I've had for awhile.

The directions that come with the kit leave much to be desired. A few grainy black & white photos would lead to some frustrating moments for anyone building this engine. Luckily I also have a ready to run "Ida" which is pretty much the same engine other than it is a saddle tank and the Ruby is a side tank. The Ida gives me a point of reference at least.

All the parts came in a boxed package consisting of three styrofoam trays holding the myriad components. Two of the trays have labels attached for each part. The third tray doesn't so I'm assuming that the Chinese manufacturer broke his label making machine. Thankfully I've got the Ida to look at for help.

Herbicide suggested I chronicle this build with photos. I'm doing that with my digital SLR but decided to take this quick photo with my camera phone to show the beginning steps.



One of the first things I noticed after assembly the frame is that the drive wheels didn't turn freely as they should do per the instructions. It became obvious that all three crossmembers holding the frame together were a hair to wide causing the frame to press outward against the drive axle bushings causing them to be in a bind. I dissasembled the frame, took out the crossmembers and gradually filed off material from the ends a little at a time. I would test fit everything as I did this until the drivers spun effortlessly. I then reassembled the frame and tightened down the bolts holding it together.

I began to work on the cylinder assembly but discovered a few parts there were going to need trimming too. I decided to call it a night instead and will mess with those items later.

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You will be a certified steam fitter in no time! :2t:

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I dunno. The extra $40 I paid for the RTR Ida seems worth it now. On the positive side I know how this machine functions by putting it together.



Today I attached the cylinders, side rods, eccentrics, reverser bar & quadrant. Adjusted the valves and set the timing. I need to run it on air before I proceed with the boiler, lubricator and fuel tank. Unfortunately I'm not set up to do it so I'm pretty much at a standstill for the moment.

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Puttered a bit more on the steamer. Added the front boiler support block... after discovering I had installed the cylinder support bracket upside down.:doh:

After getting it flipped over and the cylinders reattached I put the cab together. Installed the safety relief valve on the boiler. Added the water fill plug to the boiler as well.

Temporarily set it up beside Ida for the photo.


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