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 Posted: Thu Sep 30th, 2010 03:44 pm
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J R (kcn hogger) sent me some pictures of their club operation out in Kansas City.  Not only does this stuff look great, it's HUGE!  J R will fill in the details.




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thanks bob for your time and help!! any one interested we have a web page for the club http://www.kcnrr.com this tells some what of our history a long with info of our three train sets. if there are any questions I'll try to answer, I know a little about the road I'm one of the founding fathers we started this crazy thing in 1984 with a handful of dedicated members we drove the golden spike in 1992 after a long process with the Kansas City parks and recreation department locating the right park to place us in. the first season was slim I think maybe we had 1000 rider that first year and it has grown to 39,960 for last year record season, thanks again Bob for your help!, you can mail me at jarman@kc.rr.com always glad to talk about the road becareful though I may bore you with info JR

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When is it model railroading and when is it just RAILROADING?  Take a look at these totally real MOW cars: a weed car and a welder car.
(from KCN webpage)

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hey bob thought I'd let you know, I built the arch bar trucks under the work car from scratch back in 93 they have held up well, I also made a set of bettendorf trucks for a flat car we have, there on 35mm film I'll look and see if I can find the pic and scan them and I'll send them your way  JR

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UNCLE BOB wrote:
When is it model railroading and when is it just RAILROADING?


IMO, when they can be ridden.



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Good point, Dwayne.  I have spent more than 50 years in persuit of greater realism in model railroading.  Most steps have been minor changes.  Coupelers that work, trains that stay on the track,  Smooth, slow speed operation.

  Walk around control (especially battery powered R/C) was a bigger step--puts the "engineer" WITH  the train.  And I agree, it is a major leap to put trainmen ON the train.  Maybe this is the fundimental point where the "model" begins to have more in common with the prototype than with other models; the move from what is commonly accepted as "large scale" to the relm of VLT (very large trains)

Stepping back for a second, one change that, for me, was a major move toward realism was the move to railroading OUTDOORS.  Ask Woodie.

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J R,  don't mean to steal your therad,  one more point and I'll shuit up.  About this when is it real thing, being a trainman ON the train is a realistic experience but very out of scale humans don't do much for the (realistic) appearance of the trains, themselves, from the viewpoint of everyone else. (but you get used to this)

So maybe it turns real when the crew / passengers are INSIDE the train.

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