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How many "G" people are on this site?

Why outside?

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Marty Cozad wrote: How many "G" people are on this site?

Why outside?

Dunno...............

More room............

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Marty--

As to how many on this site are into G- well nigh impossible to tell, because of visitors, members who don't post etc. We certainly would like to see more people in
any of the larger scales-even those who are brave enough to invent scales of their own--(you know who you are, and Big Brother is watching!!).

"G" is a number of scales, all around 1/2"to 9/16" = 1 foot, running on track that is
1 3/4" gauge.

The reason that most people build outdoors is the size- a 40 foot long freight car
ends up being almost 2 feet long.

Ken- Jump in here and correct/amend please--


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Yea, Herb, I think Marty knows what "G" is..............

He runs the North Table Creek RR out in Nebraska...............




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Marty Cozad wrote: How many "G" people are on this site?

Why outside?


I'm a large scaler playing in 17n30. "G" of course is nothing but a generic term since large scale in my opinion is anything that can be run outdoors (1:24 and larger) but too small to be ridden (ride on trains).

Large scalers are a minority on this site, but that doesn't keep me from trying to entice my fellow forum members over to the dark side.

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Whoops! :doh:

Sorry for treating you like a noobie Marty!


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See RGSeng gave me away with very old photos.

I wish folks would at less place their first nmaes in their profiles.

thanks for the welcome Herb

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How about sharing some later photos Marty?

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Marty Cozad wrote: See RGSeng gave me away with very old photos.

I wish folks would at less place their first nmaes in their profiles.

thanks for the welcome Herb

Sorry, Marty, they were from Stan Cedarleafs page................they were the only ones I could find................;)

Ken

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holy smoking toilet seats batman, 20 foot long bridge in G scale ......yooooooowza !

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Who would build a layout outdoors? Must be some kind of maroon or a luna-tick. Why forsake the comfort of a temperature-controlled room with TV and stereo and large overstuffed chairs? Who would want to run in a place where space seems infinite, the air is not filtered, the sounds are natural, and the sun shines (or doesn't) on the ribbons of steel (or nickel silver)? I just don't know. And then there are those un-traditional fellows who may cross to the "dark side" and put batteries and r/c stuff in their little teapots. Good heavens, what is the world coming to?

BTW-welcome Marty, maybe somebody can answer these vexing questions. What do you say about this?

                                         Woodie

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Yeah Herbicle... Big Brother can kiss my (_!_)


Woodie, most people are soft. Being outdoors is to much for them.

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Oh, I think the big bridge is 24' 8 " and 6ft off ground .

 the other bridge is only 23ft.

 

I guess for some of us nuts, building in doors is cheating. Wheres the challenge?

I need to figure out how to post photo?  Can I just copy and past URL from MLS site?

test



I can't remember the letters???


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Marty,

Here's a how-to:

http://www.freerails.com/view_topic.php?id=185&forum_id=19

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Suffering Studebaker !

You outdoor guys really know how to make a statement!

No lake with working car ferry?



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Herb

My ferry ,,sunk.

Beisdes, I don't buy anything  with a girls names or looks sissy.

 

We moved the pond down by the back patio to enjoy it more with company.


 

see if this works

http://www.youtube.com/user/NTCGRR#p/f/3/fRusAC997Xg

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I give up!


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ebtm3 wrote: I give up!


Herb:old dude:

and you thought my layout was impressive..........hehe:shocked:;)

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ebtm3 wrote: I give up!


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Well, that's pretty cool. I love a funky Shay with 4 or 5 ore cars and an old coach slowly running along the roller coaster track. But then, I'm a narrow gauger in extremis. Are those fir trees real? The scenery is very nice.

                                 Woodie

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Please don't think I'm bragging. I love building them. On the 4th weekend of Sept is our 3 day weekend open house.

e-mail me direct for info.

all are welcome from many different sites.

Live steam/battery RC

200 to 300 die hard modelers of all different LARGE scales.

 

Dealers and swap tables also.

Lots of food.

No pets.

You need help. the shop is open 24 hours with folks working or teeking engines.

 

relaxing time unless your one of the 14 trains on the main lines and your battery goes out.

 

RC is the only way to go with this crazy group.


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Ric Golding keeps bugging me to go...................ah, one of these days................;)

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Ken

 I'm building a new raised steam track with 14ft radious curves.  And it ties into the main layout.

See MLS roadbed forum.

good for testing and pulling contest.

please come some time. next year is our 10th anver .

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HI MARTY,  Welcome to the group!

I've really enjoyed looking at your layout in Garden Railways for some time.

As to how many are working in "G" scale,  I'll have to plead "Guilty".  Up untill a few months ago I had a (mostly) indoor 1/29 scale layout based on an industrial park  in Miami, Fl.  Current times--CSX--battery/radio.  End of June, this year, we moved and the railroad came down.  It's all in storage now but I hope to start rebuilding soon.
Again,  WELCOME  :bg:    

UNCLE BOB  

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"What is 'G'?"
Simple, "G" is a track where the gauge (distance between the insides of the rails is
1 3/4 inches (1/75" or 44mm), more or less.
The scale is where we have fun.
Generally, the smallest scale is 1/32 size (3/8"=1'-0" scale). But I am converting all the 1/35 scale military railroad kits to run on G track. These include WW2 era German freight cars, armored trains and railroad guns. So maybe 1/35 is the smallest.
Marklin makes trains to 1/32 size and in Europe it is knows as #1 gauge. I'm in a club in Connecticut and one of our members runs only Marklin trains. He has a very extensive layout in his basement of Marklin HO gauge and a 1 gauge layout in his yard, which is spreading out each year. So he can enjoy running his trains all year long. 
Then we have USA and Aristocraft trains who make G trains to 1/29 size. Why that size? I do not know.
I believe there are some trains in 1/24 size (1/2"=1'-0" scale). I think they are the Bachmann products but I could be wrong as i never measured them for scale.
LGB is 1/22.5 scale as are the German made houses and buildings by Pico, etc.
Now we have the larger scale(size)  of 1/20.3. Bachmann is making engines in this larger scale.
There are also larger scales that use G track.
The track stays the same but the scale changes so anything that is larger than 1/32 scale is narrow gauge. In the past 150 years there have been many narrow gauge railroads of various track gauges all around this planet. So  the bigger the scale you use the smaller the track gauge G becomes. Gee, that does sound confusing, doesn't it?:brill:
To make things even more interesting we have military trains in WW1 that ran supplies, ammo etc up to the front lines. These were 60mm gauge or what we call 2 foot gauge. There are models available for these trains in 1/32 scale so I will be incorporating these on part of my model RR. For track I should use OO gauge, but I'll probably use HO gauge because it is more convenient in the USA for parts, running gear, etc.  After WW1 these trains were distributed around the world and were very useful in large sugar beet and pineapple plantations. So when I can get that going I'll have a railroad with its own narrow gauge railroad on it. L:

Why work outdoors? Speaking for myself, I like long stretches of track with heavy mallet engines pulling  long consists of many cars. I also detest working with tiny fiddly little things so I am making an outdoor layout using G gauge track that will run all across the back of my yard. I will not convert the basement into a model railroad room because I need the storage space and I like working outside.

A number of guys like making their model railroads outdoors because they have wives who like gardening. So they make it a joint hobby and thus have more time to spend with one another and they build the layout/garden together.
There are a number of reasons that we like to build outdoors but basically, we do it because we want to.   :us: Well, if all this doesn't confuse you I guess I've answered your question.

Enjoy, its only a hobby.
Stephen


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ssculptor wrote:

LGB is 1/22.5 scale

Yes, a widely spread rumour :):)

J├╝rgen

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I will have to side with Harold-"We don't need no stinkin' letter!"...I am not a G scale modeler, I build 35n2.  When I think G scale, I think of LGB-"Garden" scale.

      this is from the Outlaw Troublemaker

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W C Greene wrote: I will have to side with Harold-"We don't need no stinkin' letter!"...I am not a G scale modeler, I build 35n2.  When I think G scale, I think of LGB-"Garden" scale.

      this is from the Outlaw Troublemaker
But there is no G scale. There is a G gauge. In G gauge we run any scale we like and we can mix them all together.
Kinda disturbs Fine Scale Modelers who want only one scale. What a silly notion. Mix them up. Lots more fun that way.
Stephen

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Gee, I didn't mean to get crosswise with scale/gauge. I haven't been in this hobby very long and am ignorant of such things. Fine scalers??? I suppose I am since I just have to include exact scale ants crawling on my layout. I have measured them and they are about 1" long in 1:35 scale...any others get squished quickly so as to not spoil the correctness.

All this aside, as many "scales" as are being used these days, the letter designation seems to be sort of antiquated. Way back when, there was TT,HO,S,O,and big. Ahhh, life was easier then...now we have T,N,HO,S,O,G,F, and goodness knows what else. If I were in O scale, I would prefer 1:48 (or if I was a Brit-1:43)...And I forgot OO scale!

Gauge? T, N,Nn3,HOn2,HOn30,HOn42,HOn3,OO9,OOn3.5,Sn2, Sn3,Sn42...I am getting tired, I will go back to 35n2..or maybe I should call it G/35n2..

Time for bed, I will dream about this and maybe have an answer in the cold morning light. Anyone want to buy my scale rulers?

                                   Outlaw Troublemaker-Boudreaux

NOW-BACK TO THE THREAD-"WHAT IS G?".......

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F*** everyone who keeps thinking in terms of LETTER designations. Start thinking in terms of RATIO and all this confusion would be gone. So simple yet ignorant people keep perpetuating the dumbass notion of using a letter to denote what they're modeling. :bang:

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"We (Connecticut G Scalers) will be setting up the"


"But there is no G scale. There is a G gauge"


Better set those guys in the club straight-----


GEE WHIZ


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DW-you need to try to express your emotions. Don't hold anything in!

My friend Muj told someone that he modeled in HO scale and they wanted to know if he had ever been arrested. Of course he didn't say "aich-oh", it was mo' like ho' scale. Thinking about that, I have some 1:35 ho's at the Gila Hotel.

We had better quit these shannigans afore' Dave deletes stuff. Wonder what Herbicide would think?

                             Woodie

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Well, I'm on the phone with Herbie at this moment and he's laughing his arse off...

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OK,  I model in 1/29 scale on G gauge track--indoors--kinda-sorta fine scale (yes, I know the correct track gauge should be 1.9482758 inches).

Anybody asks what scale this is,  I tell'em "1/29".   But if I HAD to come up with a stinkin' letter, I'd call it "3X" because 29 is 3 times 87 and everyone knows what size HO is.

Maybe I won't have to.

BTW, of late I have come to believe the correct track gauge to use outdoors is 7 1/2 inches.

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I've seen HO's come in all shapes, sizes and colors... ;)

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Dwayne wrote: F*** everyone who keeps thinking in terms of LETTER designations. Start thinking in terms of RATIO and all this confusion would be gone. So simple yet ignorant people keep perpetuating the dumbass notion of using a letter to denote what they're modeling. :bang:Dwayne
I do not see that it matters what they call it. Everyone gets the terminology wrong anyway.
When they say the scale is 1/48 they are incorrect. The scale of 1/48 is 1/4"=1'-0".
1/48 is the size ratio, not the scale.
But language changes over time and the changes are caused by the public's popular usage, not by academicians like me sitting in my ivory tower telling everyone that they are wrong.  :bang:
I agree with you but I can do nothing about it so I don't worry about it. I am not going to let popular usage raise my bile factor by one iota. As far as I am concerned it is a tempest in a teapot. A humorous one at that.
Another example is the way we say numbers when there is a decimal point. With numbers, the word "and" refers to the decimal point. So when an overstuffed politician or pompous orator says something like, "... in this year of two thousand and ten." he is speaking of some time in early February of the year 2000, not 2010. This is because what he said is 2000.10, not 2010. "And" is the decimal point.
But since everyone says it wrong eventually it will be acceptable to one and all, almost like the word "ain't".:P
My favorite, by the way, is the 17/64 scale (hee hee, I meant size ratio) used by true believers for O scale trains in the 1930's and 1940's. Since the 1.25 inch gauge of O scale track is really closer to 17/64 than 1/48 these guys made everything larger so they could be happy with the standard O scale track and existing wheel sets.
Us people are the funniest critters on this planet.:)
Stephen

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Settle down-life is too short to worry about this trivial crap. Call things as you will, build what you want to whatever "scale" you want. I wish I was a lot younger then I wouldn't have any problems telling the old cats how I know so much more than they know.

G SCALE/GAUGE or whatever was THOUGHT UP BY LGB*. Before they coined the letter deal, there was NO G. Now if you're talking about RULE G, that is something else. Or maybe it's G, Beaver, you little goof!

                                        No soup for you!

                                                     Boudreaux

*Lehmann Grosse Bahn...is it G or is it GROSSE (gardens had nothing to do with it)

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G spot?;)

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I think it is mainly we who have come to large (G) scale from other smaller, more formalized scales, like HO, who are concerned or even aware of this scale/gauge issue of 45mm track and the variety of stuff that will run on it.

I have a lot of garden railroad friends who don't know, or if they do, don't give a hoot about the whole matter.  They just buy whatever they find interesting and run it all together as they see fit.  And they do seem to have a lot of fun.  Standard gauge, narrow gauge, whatever!  Their main concern is wether the coupelers will hook-up.

Well,  that's not how I do it but I figure anyboby can do their railroad as they please. Besides, the volume of models bought by garden railroaders help make things more afordable for the minority of "serious" modelers.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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As far as I can tell, those who like to seriously model to a certain scale do so and have their fun that way. Those who like to model G gauge in a more relaxed manor will do their thing their way.
Ultimately, there is no correct way to model these things. Each individual makes his model RR his way as it is supposed to please him.
It is just a real hoot to explain G to modelers who are in other gauges and scales where things are more strictly held to a certain scale.
Like the slogan says "Model Railroading is fun."
That is all that counts.
As to the perfect scale, if I ever win the lottery and have gazillions of money to play with, I would build a 2  or 3 foot narrow gauge railway and populate it with coal fired steam locomotives and drive those around the property.
Stephen

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"No correct way to model these things"??? Like some other posts that have irked me, I won't continue to post on this thread. "Correct way..." is a high minded and narrow view. Good luck with that.

                                     Woodie C Greene

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Stephen,  I note that your profile says you have an interest in "G gauge trains".

Profile didn't mention what scale?

 

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Uhhh, Hmmm. I guess I have rolling stock of all the usual scales, 1/35, 1/32, 1/29, 1/24 and 1/22.5. I also have some 1/25 scale paper card models of various European civil and military trains, which I am always intending to build but in plastic or metal. Intending is the key word here. I need a clone to work and make a living while I play with my toys.
Stephen

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How about some pictures, Stephen?


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I'm still up to my nose in trying to make money. The recession pulled the rug out from under me. Thus my outdoor layout is in parts and process all over the back yard. It is one of those things where it will be all chaos until one day it pulls together and then I'll be able to run a train around the layout. I got rid of all my O gauge stuff years ago and really have nothing to show except for G gauge stuff I had bought in richer times. But why show photos of things you can see in any catalog? When I get something done I'll show pictures of it, Until then I have lots of ideas but I will not speak of them until the words are solid models.
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G is nothing but a generic term for large scale model trains. It doesn't represent any scale in particular. My stuff has nearly nothing in common with 1/29 scale trains running on the same 45mm gauge track. And it's that 45mm track that is the only common link between 1/29, 1/24, 1/22, 1/20, 1/17, & 1/13 scales.

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I get it!  "G" stands for "generic".   :glad:

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UNCLE BOB wrote: I get it!  "G" stands for "generic".   :glad:
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Well, considering the advanced ages of most of  the G gauge practitioners I know in SW Connecticut I think we might say that G stands for geriatric.:old dude:

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As you are, so once was I.  As I am, so shall you be.

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Well, I do not know how old you are but I'll never see 70 again.:old dude:
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I'm 65 (come Jan), going on 17.

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I'm starting to dabble in the Genormous size. Have a 4-6-0 that I got online and so far 4 pieces of track, enough to test run ;)

Here it is ontop the n scale Christmas layout PTRR


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Marty,

Nice looking train Room !!! Love the Logging Saw on the back wall. A must have for all us Narrow Gauge nuts !!! I'm a Large scale modeler  but all my stuff is indoors and I have a forum on here "My Adventure in Large scale". What I would like to know is how many Indoor G scale Modelers are on this site.

Regards: Ronnie D.:cb: The Run Down And Poor Lumber Company.

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I am in G scale, and belong to the Gateway Garden Railroad club in the St. Louis Mo. aeria. My purchases are all narrow gauge, mostly Bachmann, with some LGB, and a few Aristo clasic series.

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Dale, welcome to FR. Got pics?

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Hi Dale!







Herb  :old dude:

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ssculptor wrote: Well, considering the advanced ages of most of  the G gauge practitioners I know in SW Connecticut I think we might say that G stands for geriatric.:old dude:
It is well known in the circles of those who bathe regularly, that "G" gauge stands for "Geezer" Gauge. :old dude:

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SteveF wrote:
It is well known in the circles of those who bathe regularly, that "G" gauge stands for "Geezer" Gauge. :old dude:

Guess that's why the term is new to me!

Herb  :old dude:

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Well, I wouldn't exactly call myself a G person. I model in Hn18. Try that one on for size! That's 1/2" scale (1/24) using On30 or HO track gauge - BUT - I use modified On30 track with some ties removed and the remainder paired together for wider ties. After painting and weathering you can't tell. The 18"? That's really a fib as it gauge turns out to be just a tad over 15" scale. I say 18" because my equipment tends to be larger than most individuals like to use in Gn15. The "invisible" extra almost 3 scale inches translates into another 9" in equipment width, which I sorely need.

I am doing an island railway in the basement circa 1981 based on my trip to Cuba of that year. Having a blast!
Tom
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