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Now before I go any further I know just the mentioning of this guy name raise hairs on the back of some people neck in hobby today. But you have to give him credit  for being one of the greats in our hobby in the early 80's and mid 90's and "Sold A LOT "!!!! of magazine for Model Railroader. But do anybody know what ever happen to Furlow's G scale Soda Creek & South Park layout ?? Was it ever featured in any other magazine other than Model Railroader. I loved this layout and it was what got me into large scale modeling. And to build my G scale R&P Lumber Co. layout. The layout had many flaw's in it and you could only run a few pieces of equipment on it at one time, And I would have like to have seen the plans in a Dog bone shape on both ends and portable to take to train shows. Furlow was and maybe still is one of my all time greats in this hobby and a lot of people may not want to admit it but he turn a lot of us on to Narrow Gauge modeling long before I knew the Narrow Gauge & Short Line Gazette existed. So Malcolm where ever you are in Southwestern New Mexico put down that paint brush !!! grab some track and and finish that On30/G scale monster you were working on and grace the cover on Model Railroader again. They could sure use you. !!!!!!

Ronnie D.

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Ronnie-yep, there are many that get crazy at the mention of his name. I knew MF and most folks know my opinion of him as a person. As for modeling, let me say that he was a great photographer and certainly knew how to stage a scene. Many of the structures shown in various photos had but 2 sides and no scenery behind...where the camera couldn't show. He "hit" at the right time since Muddle Snailroader no longer had Frary & Hayden to carry the "narrow gauge" banner.

We often wonder why the fellow does not ever come "home" to Dallas..at least in the daylight!

                          Woodie the Outlaw Troublemaker

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ronnie.........a similar picture of Malcomns G scale build on the cover of MR titled, " is this real or a model " was one of two magazine covers around 1986--87 that caught my attention and drew me into modelling.  Of coarse the other one was of the Franklin and South Manchester of the wizard of Peabody MA, George Sellios.

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Woodie,

I agree with you !!! But here's my take on Furlow, Malcolm was not a Model Railroader. He was a model builder and railroad photographer who had a keen eye for color, scenery and contrast. I loved the guys work and snatched everything he did for Mode Railroader, My problem with him is he either bit off more than he could chew on some the project he was working on. Or gotten so famous so fast that he couldn't handle the demand for his services. Just like the G scale Soda Creek and South Park layout that thing ended up being more of a diorama then a layout, The Imagine Nation Station video series never produce the second video to that series. And his last project that artist nightmare On30/G scale layout was good for selling copies for Model Railroader. Like I said before put down the paint brush git back to "TEXAS" and build a real "Narrow Gauge layout" like his old Chama & Western. And where is John Olson !!!! These were the guys who got me started in Narrow Gauge.


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Mike.

I really like George's stuff too but he was more of an "Urban Scenery" guy with a little bit on Narrow Gauge on his layout.

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Ronnie-I did meet John Olsen back in the 1970's and he was a great fellow. He stopped by my little hobby shop where we had an HOn30 layout on display. John would share anything he knew and loved to get new information. Unlike the other fellow we were talking about. He is one who needs to be back "in the spotlight"..matter of fact, much of what John was doing got "taken" by somebody else who declared that he discovered the techniques. Comparing apples to horse apples..Mr Olsen is the apple.

That's all from me...                   Woodie

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In my opinion, somebody doesn't HAVE TO build a model railroad to be a model railroader.

If Malcoms build was nothing more than a big diorama, great, HIS WORK INSPIRED ME. 

What about Gary Nash and Mic Greenburg other famous names, not sure if they ever built a layout,  as i all i ever saw was dioramas.

 What is a diorama, a complete self contained scene usually built on a piece of 1/2 " plywood for base stability.

 Whats a model railroad, a series of complete diorama scenes strung together into a giant diorama.

If you examine how George Sellios built his railroad into a 20 x 40 HO scale masterpiece , you need to know its history, I do.

He would design and build a complete fully sceniced oversized diorama of the latest kit he was producing. Photo it and use it in his MR MRC full page adverts.  He would then find a place on his benchwork for the diorama to be placed and work it into the scenery after he ran it thru his tablesaw to trim down the base to the required size.  Too the best of my knowledge George has constructed most of his layout this way.

The owner of SOUTH RIVER MODEL WORKS Bob Van Gelder has constructed his incredibal layout using the same idea as George, a series of dioramas. Go to his website and view his layout.

http://www.southrivermodelworks.com/page7a.html

Following Georges original idea i have constructed a total of 516 dioramas since 1987 and yet have NO LAYOUT, does that make me ****not a model railroader**** , when all my structures/scenes are M R oriented ?????????

I feel no specific urge at this point in time to actually construct a layout..

Only a few of those builds ( 13 ) actually remain here.

 

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Getting back to Mr. Furlow...

His layout in the back yard shed couldn't actually operate since it had such tight radius' (I believe at least one was 9") the engines couldn't get around the curves. It, too, was for "teaching" techniques for his articles and taking purty pictures.

I admit to his being an artist. He just left the state with quite a few folks good and ticked-off at him. And that said, some guys in Texas still think the sun rose and set with him. Go figure!

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Woodie,

Quick question for you !!! Right when I just got into Narrow Gauge Modeling there was a company called "Trains of Texas" who sold On30 stuff what happen to them.

And here are the photos I forgot to post in my "Cheap But Fun Form" using battery operated "New Bright Trains"everything has been customizes and repainted. The logging flat cars were New Bright Boxcars that I cut down to 14 feet shorty flat cars and both tenders have real Colorado timber in them. My buddy on the East coast built the logging truck for me. These are the trairs I will be running on my new portable G scale R&P Lumber co. layout.


PS. Layout progress photos are coming soon.... let me know what you think.

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Sullivan,

Thanks for the insight on what happen to that layout. !!

Ronnie D.:cb:

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trains of texas made both HO and O scale stuff..on30 is o scale .

As the story goes, 3 -4 model rail roading doctors got together and formed t of t and produced various kits and wall sections which still turn up on ebay occasionally and fetchs a good price if unbroken.  All their stuff was done in U S GYPSUM hydrocal white . 

 A set of their ho/o scale very distressed brick walls went for $306.00 on ebay a few years ago and were copied by an Illinois hobby store and sold on ebay for a short time. I got copies of all 3 types of the 5" x 9" walls.

Keith Wiseman at wisemans model services and others in the kit business i have spoken too over time, tried to purchase the name t of t from the broken up docs group , but nobody could ever get them to agree to the sale, which is what broke them up in the first place, infighting ?

Laser cutting and people switching over to resin ( even the master of plaster Tom Yorke ) has made the semi fragile hydrocal a thing of the past.

thats all i know on the subject

mike

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Madmike,

Thanks for the info !!! and your insight on what always turn out to be a hot topic about Malclom Furlow.

Regards: from the lower 48!!!!

Ronnie D.:cb:

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Ronnie-just the right amount of "funkiness"! Very cool loco and cars. Keep on with the program, it's looking great.

Trains of Texas...I think they moved to Missouri and are still making stuff...I never knew much about them.

As an aside, Mike, I knew the gent in question and just because he made some neat stuff does not make him an "artist". Of course, I don't care for Andy Warhol (I know someone who knew him) and he is considered "great". Birds of a feather...

                                  Woodie 

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Mike,

I agree with you !!! You don't have to have a 40 ft x 50 ft basement to be a Model Railroader. In my (only) !!! opinion I think he was more of a (Model Builder) !! who was a hired gun for Model Railroader.

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Malcolm was doing great stuff that 99% of the modelling population were not and being creative in the same way that the great John Allen was also featured in the early magazines up until his death in 1972.  That is why he became popular and famous in our sphere of interest.

IF you write good articles and take quality photographs, guess what, the magazines PAY YOU real $$$$$$$$$$$ , that feed and help to cloth u.

  If you build stuff that is quality or at least appears to be in the pictures for those articles you get paid and start getting a name. Once you get that name people WANT what your producing.  They may even want to hire you to build individual or a series of structures or even construct a whole layout , if you have enough money .

 Magazines want you to do even more , because people who read their magazine have responded that they love it.  So now we got somebody who has quickly gained fame in his chosen field.  Seems like everybody and their sister wants a piece of them, & get closer to this new found god . Happened with George Sellios, John Allen, Mic Greenberg , Gary Nash, John Olson and others.

I suppose one of the reasons MODEL RAILROADER was using Furlow a lot was because the staff were writers and could not build anything worth looking at.  They also featured a lot of John Allens work.    

Model railroader has continued down a long slide to oblivion because their editorial staff were writers of storys and not modelers, big difference. Maybe thats why that same magazine is still talked about with derision because they refuse to call it the scale On30 and refer to it only as On 2 1/2 .   Somebody was even selling t shirts taunting the editor with  ****** ITS ON30 STUPID*****.    I cannot remember the last time i actually picked one up, because i had personally classified it as excrement .  The stuff they featured in the magazine was almost child like quality, like the type of stuff you see at the local hobby shows with the club module layouts.

You can attack Malcoln Furlow all you want but he did do some amazing looking stuff that was very creative and that is what really counts not somebodys personal hate of the man. 

 I believe attacking somebody is contrary to this sites stated policy , otherwise let the bitch slaps begin ?

mike

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Enough of this. Get back to modeling. Mike is familiar with photos, I am familiar woth actual work. Mike is familiar with the "legend", I actually knew the man. Those 99% guys who are "inferior" might like to have an advocate here also. Hero worship is one thing, but some are not ment to be worshiped.

                               Woodie

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Better chain them logs down Ronnie!  :)

But don't use all the chain--we might need some for Woodie and Mike!


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malcolm furballs

?????????????

WOODIE AND I HAVE OPPOSING VIEWS ON MALCOLMS CURRENT STATUS IN THE WORLD OF MODEL RAILROADING, WHATS WRONG WITH THAT. ??

I AM NOT ACCUSING WOODIE OF WEARING A TUTU WHILE HE RUNS HIS LAYOUT UNDER THE STARS .

HE IS NOT ACCUSING ME OF WEARING A PINK AND GOLD MENS SIZE SMALL THONG WHILE CREATING DIORAMAS. 

THERE IS NO YELLING OR SCREAMING, NOR IS THERE ANY VEILED THREATS OF ARGIE BARGIE BETWEEN US, WE SIMPLY AGREE TO DISAGREE ON THIS PARTICULAR SUBJECT.

IS THAT SO EVIL ? WE HAVE TO GET A  P M.

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Mike, your pink mens thong comment just ain't right...:shocked:

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Herb,

Laughing !!! I think you might be right !!!! Like I said when ever you bring up Furlows name in a modeling form people get fired up !!!!

Ronnie D.:apl:


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Herb,

Maybe you can clear this up for me, I keep finding all great photos of Woodie work on this site.What scale is his layout On30 or some kind of G scale. !!! Now Woodie I've lived in Texas all my life except for the last 12 years and I know how bad the weather can be there please tell you don't keep that layout outside under plastic !! I thought I saw a section mounted to some kind of trailer.



If this is On30 my backwood Rail Truck would fit right end with rest of your locos Woodie.

Ronnie D.:cb:



 

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Dwayne wrote: Mike, your pink mens thong comment just ain't right...:shocked:

okay, you pick a colour the THONG  should be and i will change the text of the previous post to the new colour that does not hurt your feelings.

mike

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Ronnie,

I'll hyjack that answer for Herb and Woodie...

The scale is 1:35 and the guage is 2 foot (16.5mm). And yes, it does spend its life under the Texas sun and winter's chill. When storms threaten the layout gets wrapped in plastic sheeting. The layout acts just like an airplane wing during windy weather and has never blown down.

You could use your truck on the tracks since Woodie uses On30 and HO mechs as fodder for his creations.


P.S. to the previous answer:

As to the sections attached to the "trailer", that was Woodie's first motor home. He had the first sections of the layout attached to it. He now has a replacement and the layout has been moved into the yard on tripods.

And BTW, Woodie lives in a motor home parked in the backyard of the esteemed Mr. Bill Caldwell.
 

 

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Thanks, James!

Ronnie--uberfunky rail truck--I see you found some chain--I like it!

Herbie  :old dude:

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Herb,

I had to put chains on this vehicle, I was getting to much flack from the OSHA and the  Union Bosses !!!!

"(Laughing)" !!!!!

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Sullivan,

What do Woodie do to keep away real"Texas" Outlaws" like Cock Roaches, Ants and Squirrels from eating on the scenery when it's really hot !!!! in Dallas in the summer.


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There's no such thing as track radius, It's whatever stay on the the track !!!!!:brill:

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Nice looking Bachmann Porter. :thumb:

Ronnie, you say you're workibg in "G"... which scale in particular? 1/20n3?

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Dwayne,

It depends !!! When I was running my old R&P Lumber Co. layout it was 1:20 Bachmann 0-4-0 Porters, LGB 0-4-0 and Hartland Mack Diesel and G scale Model Diecast little Diesel.Now with this new layout I'm working on the locos are a "Funky O/G scale New Bright Trains.

I'll be posting a new form soon on my Adventures in "G" with photos from my old R&P Lumber Co. layout photos that I have not posted before.


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Dwayne,

It depends !!! When I was running my old R&P Lumber Co. layout it was 1:20 Bachmann 0-4-0 Porters, LGB 0-4-0 and Hartland Mack Diesel. Now with this new layout I'm working on the locos are a "Funky O/G scale New Bright Trains.

I'll be posting a new form soon on my Adventures in "G" with photos from my old R&P Lumber Co. layout that I have not posted yet.

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I know this is an old topic and I see that people here didn't much care for Malcolm Furlow but The San Juan Central is what initially turned me on to narrow gauge way back when I was young. I still have the book in my collection somewhere. As I recall he also did a railroad called the Carbondale or some such thing that I also liked very much.

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Yeah, I remember the articles he wrote on the building of the San Juan Central. I even got to see the layout before it was shipped off to MR or whatever. He had it in an upstairs room of his house. It 'sorta' ran. They were really sweating that when I saw it. Still, it was purty to look at.

BTW, his own personal rr was located in an outhouse on his property. I swear it looked like that. It was a rather smallish shed out back and the rr was crammed in it. Memory is a little fuzzy maybe. He had some curves on that arty little layout that no loco in production could manage. But...it was real purty too. 

The main issue with Furlow that some people in Dallas have is how he managed his business relations while becoming a well-heeled god courtesy of the rr press.

I understand that several years ago he even had a run-in with the secret service because he wanted to block access on his mountain to a certain well-known political figure. That maybe urban legend but...

Back to railroads...

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Sheesh... I didn't think model railroading was THAT lucrative.
Oh well, that is the very first I'd ever seen of rugged narrow gauge railroading and that is what has kept my interest all these years. Of course, many of you guys here have taken that to another level which is why I'm so fired up about getting back into it with trains.

Mike

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Furlow had a total of 5 layouts published in Model Railroader:

- Denver & Rio Chama Western (HOn3)
- San Juan Central (HOn3)
- Soda Creek & Southpark (Gn3)
- Children's Medical Center of Dallas layout (Gn3)
- Ferrocarril de Rio Mantanas (Gn3)

The Ferrocarril one is probably what sullivan is refer to as the one in the "outhouse".

Don't sweat being inspired by the photos published of his work. They are amazing. A lot of people trash talk him but whatever. I liked all his articles too.

But take all this photos with a grain of salt. Furlow himself does point out more than once that he really enjoyed the photography aspect of model railroading and as a result tended to just build scenes that were designed around photo opportunities. It's fairly obvious from looking at the track plans that operation was the least of concerns. In the past 10-20 years operation has become more popular and as a result his layouts have been summarized as largely large static displays.

I've personally done a ton of research on building the SJC. Why? Because it's so iconic, I really like it, and I think it'd be fun to build. At the same time my perspective on it is that if I ever were to do it, it would be more for fun and a scenery exercise than a serious attempt at building an operatable model railroad. Also, just for kicks a few months back I re-drew the SJC as a shelf layout. http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-nHxGxqCa8yY/Tmg1Zn_gIEI/AAAAAAAAAoI/zOiqw_oPl_U/s1600/SJC-Shelf-Scen.jpg

That said, I guarantee that the SJC was probably the most started, least finished project railroad ever published by MR. I see so many forum posts that are like "back in the 80's I started building the SJC..." Honestly, if I could figure out a way to do it with light benchwork where I didn't need to build a whole legs and table structure below it, it could probably be done for around $500 less rolling stock and structures and within the span of a year... Hmmm...

Right, I already have too many projects going. Let's not go there.

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titus,

You nailed it right on the head. !!!  When I started this thread it was not intended to  bash "Furlow' at all. He is the very reason I'm into Narrow Gauge right now.!!! Long before I knew of Bob Brown and the Gazette there was Furlow. And because of him a lot of guys on this site today is modeling narrow gauge. Titus your right a lot of his work  was just for show.!! I have every video and magazine he's ever been in and still till this day he's my all time favorite modeler along with John Olson. When their work stop showing up in Model Railroader I stop buying it. All in all lets cut the guy some slack.!! Because in the big picture of things people will be talking about his work 50 years from now.

So Malcolm where ever you are in New Mexico put down the paint brush !!  And keep us wondering what will you come up with next.

For all of us who love and build Narrow Gauge models & Layouts.

Ronnie D
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In a defense of Sullivan's words, I will just add that if you knew the man personally, you would have a far different opinion. Yes, it is time to forget things and go on. But he screwed so many that his name will not be thought of with loving nostalga by those who knew him best.
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Titus & Ronnie,

I was not bashing his work, only his business ethics.

BTW, his personal railroad was the Denver & Rio Chama Western. It was a beautiful little rr and, upon seeing it in person, was obviously built for photography and to show his techniques. The articles in the magazines made it look much bigger.

Titus, your rendition of the San Juan Central is great!. That would make a beautiful and operational little rr.

And BTW, Frary & Hayden got me started in narrow guage. But then I'm more the Maine two-footer guy anyway.

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If you do a little research you'll find that Malcolm Furlow also did a railroad called the Carbondale Central. I don't know if it was ever in the pages of MR. I think it was but it definitely is featured in the Kalmbach book "6 HO Railroads You Can Build". It's not narrow gauge but it is another fantastic looking railroad... Very gritty looking.

Those were the first model railroads I ever saw that didn't look like Lionel train sets or some a big long train crossing the Shenandoah Valley. Not that either of those are bad. I like that stuff too but ever since seeing those railroads that type of gritty modeling has been etched in my mind. I don't feel bad about it at all. Maybe the old guy was a horses rear in real life but his models were truly inspiring to a young man from SE Michigan. It's much the same for an older man from SE Michigan when he looks at the modeling displayed here at Free Rails.

Mike

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James-

I agree with you about Frary & Hayden.

While a cab ride at South Carver sparked my interest in Maine 2 footers, and led to the purchase of many books about the little and not so little (SR&RL RR) lines, I have always been too deeply involved with other model railroading aspects to model the 2 foot scene--now, I wish that some years back-perhaps when I decided to build a layout in the trailer- perhaps even earlier-- I had chucked it all and went to On2. Too late in the day now though.

To me, there are two types of model railroading. One is to try to duplicate the real thing as closely as skills, and other restrictions permit. This doesn't mean "counting rivets". It does mean that the model, and the railroad should be plausible, in the real world. Paladin's emerging layout is a perfect example of this. John Allen's definitely wasn't to my eyes.

The other "extreme" is the Far Tottering and Oyster Creek type of fantasy modeling. To use a word verboten in the model world- cute. This to me is interesting, but can be carried to extremes--see the GnATTERBOX for some examples- I think that I saw a soup dish with wheels under it there some time back. Who ever built it was having fun, and that's why this is a great hobby-- but it didn't do much for me.

And there is a (dislike the term, because it sounds negative) gray area- Toeffelholm's modeling, which he shares here on FreeRails with us (Time for a update on the "history" mein Freund!) A little whimsical, but very plausible.

But more to the subject of MF's modeling. I think that the thing that totally turned me off on what he did was a picture of one of his layouts (don't know which one--and don't care) of a turntable right smack against a vertical 60 foot high--brick, as I recall--wall partway around the periphery. For what was supposed to be an example of prototype modeling--it fell flat on it's face. So what is the difference between this, and the soup dish? One was done for pleasure on the part of the builder (way to go!), the other to see his name in print (way to go??)

Well enough of my opinions  What are yours?


Herb 

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I saw that turntable against the huge vertical wall yesterday when searching MFs stuff and I remember thinking to myself that it looked stupid. I don't think everything that man did was wonderful. Nor do I worship him in any sort of way. I just found his willingness to model things that weren't necessarily beautiful scenes to be refreshing and interesting. I'm sure he wasn't the first guy to model these things. He was however the first guy I ever saw model things this way. That places his work in a certain spot in my mind that will forever be cherished. Now I suppose if I had bad business dealings with him I might feel differently and to be honest it takes a little of the shine off my memories to know he was that type of person but his work still stands out in my mind... and it probably always will. I hope that simple fact doesn't cause people here to think any less of me.

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It sounds like you guys are describing the article about modeling Sheridan, Colorado in HOn3.

Is this the one?



As I understand it, this was quite a controversial picture/model.

What stands out to me about it, that I like, which I see highly lacking in many model railroads is texture. It represents so many different types of materials, wood and rock and stone and brick, etc., that it feels very interesting and exciting. Prototypical or not, I think a lot more railroads could use more texture. Frary talks about this in his scenery books a bunch. It's something I'd really like to learn more of.

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That turntable picture has always been a favorite of mine.

My take on was just a way to turn an engine when you don't have room for a wye or a loop around.

But what do I know, I am just an old man having fun with his trains.

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I stand corrected on the brick--turns out to be logs :doh:

Texture, I agree with, being a F&H fan-- but I still say that the whole thing wouldn't happen in the real world.

1--too much excavation

2-- appears the stuff behind the wall is just dirt and loose rock (hence the wall)

3--couple good rainfalls and the town ends up in the turntable pit.

4-- Guy who owns railroad gets tared and feathered


My idea of a happy ending.

Herb 

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There are as many "Furlow" fans as not out there and we would all hope that all of the fellow model railroaders are an honorable bunch, but that is not always the case. I like a lot of his work, but tempered with some reality. One of note was the mill stuck to the side of the mountain. If you think about it, it is pretty radical. I know of several persons that are total jack...es, but have to bite my tongue because they turn out some impressive work. Most of us can pic out the B.S. and the rest just shovel it. I guess the thing is to take the technique,use it to your advantage and forget about the ethics,morals,and the nut and bolt counts. Hope this doesn't tee up too many people.
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wow, this thread still has a life.

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Here's my two cents.
I enjoyed Furlow's scenery as shown in MR. At the time I was into ATSF desert railroading between El Paso and Albuquerque and had no interest narrow gauge. I read that his layouts were not very operational and were more for the photos.
After riding the Durango Silverton and the CTS in 2001, I was infected with the Narrow Gauge Fever. Now I model narrow gauge in Large Scale and On30. I had forgotten about Furlow. Maybe I'll go back and peruse the photos.
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 I was just looking at this link http://www.facebook.com/pages/Samtrains/196987833764027 and realized that Peter has a turtable and pit that is much in the style of Malcolm Furlow. If you look at the facebook page it is the first pic right under the tank car on the right side of the page. The thing must be massive since it is G Scale. It must have been some real excavating and can double as a wading pool when it rains.
                                                         Clif K




Herb Kephart wrote:
I stand corrected on the brick--turns out to be logs :doh:

Texture, I agree with, being a F&H fan-- but I still say that the whole thing wouldn't happen in the real world.

1--too much excavation

2-- appears the stuff behind the wall is just dirt and loose rock (hence the wall)

3--couple good rainfalls and the town ends up in the turntable pit.

4-- Guy who owns railroad gets tared and feathered


My idea of a happy ending.

Herb 

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FURLOW..........FURBALL--------HAIRBALL to some others.

His layout picture on the cover of model railroader magazine back around 1986-87......"IS THIS A PICTURE OR THE REAL THING ?" prompted me to buy my first model railroading book.  The second magazine i bought that day had George Sellios F&SM layout on the cover in HO.  That hooked me.

If there was a magazine article about JOHN ALLEN i would have bought that too.

All 3 of these people were and are still huge influences on this hobby, love'm or hate'm.  To the detractors,  aka nitpickers, of any of the above and there are many , i say to you. 

 When you get YOUR LAYOUT OR DIORAMA ON THE ""COVER"" OF ANY MAJOR MAGAZINE, let us know, so that we or i can peruse your work and voice my/our opinion of it.

 

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   You missed the dig, personally I like his work and the way his things were presented. I was able to get the serious bug for a stamp mill from him. You are correct that there will always be the nitpickers or persons that the work does not appeal to. Life is too short to not laugh about the whole mess. Have another beer and kick back.
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There are some people here that have had their layouts on the cover of magazines. Most recently, take a look at the April issue of Narrow Gauge Down Under. Our own Woodie Greene's Gila Tramway is featured on the cover.... Very inspirational stuff, IMHO.

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Ok, This is my last comment on this subject.!!!

I'm not a big fan of store brought layouts. But do anyone here know what ever happen to "Mike Sigmon's HOn3 Silverton & Telluride layout that Malcolm built for him in the January 1986 Model Railroader. He created the most breath taking mountain scenery on page 66. That I'd had ever seen.!!! That shot was supposed to be the cover shot for that month but Model Railroader thought it was to detailed and to dark for a cover shot. And if Furlow as building this scene for a photo opp this has to be his best work today.


Let us enjoy Narrow Gauge, Instead of being Narrow Minded. !!!!

Regards: Ronnie D.:cb:

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I typed MIKE SIGMON into my google search engine and came up with 10 listings.

Maybe you can start searching for the layout that way.

 Or you can try contacting MALCOM FURLOW and asking him about the layout and its possible location.  He may know and be thrilled somebody is asking about it. ?

 

mike

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I lived in Dallas at the time of Mr. Furlow's popularity in the 80's but never met him in person. He had an Sn3 trestle diorama in a hobby shop there that I loved to examine and his work has stayed in my head in spite of my lack of artistic ability. I was one of those people who tried to build the San Juan Central as the segments were published in MR, and my only real complaint about the project was that it included a very steep curve on one end that the locomotives I had never seemed able to climb. Since I was using the Roundhouse engines mentioned in the article it struck me as a glitch that really should have been ironed out before the series was published. In the end the trains on my layout could only operate in one direction around the loop.

If I'm not mistaken, his yard module was a version of one I'd seen drawn up by Tom Yorke some time before. I think it was an interesting example of how to take a pre-existing design and render it in one's own particular style. Like much of his work, it lent itself well to photography but not so much to operation -- as I recall it didn't have provision for a runaround track.

I guess that's my real complaint -- I think it might have been more honest to present him as an expert on scenery and leave it at that, because his layouts weren't really designed for operation. In the end, I was put off narrow gauge for some time because I came away with the sense that it couldn't be made to operate reliably. I did eventually discover how to get reliable operation out of HOn3, and now On30, but not by reading those MR articles.

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  WOW !! I learned TWO things from this thread , one that M F stands for many things one of them starting with Malcom, but pretty much have the same meaning according to a lot of folks! :shocked:

   The other More important thing is that the State of Colorado has a bunch of people into things rail related --:rah::glad: Thats where I will be starting next month.  Perhaps some of you will be close to where I am going to be--- Granby .

  I don't know much about Furlow , but I did find inspiration in the scenery and composition he did , but probably no more than several others, Hayden, Jon Olson, Frary, Heck, I even liked E. L. Moore :old dude:and his balsa wood!  Of course the master of all was John Allen . I am overwhelmed when I see his to the floor canyon -- I want to do one like it some day.

  There is one more thing that someone did in Narrow Gauge Gazette , it was called  "A ticket to Tincup" I think was that also Malcom or if not who was it. 

   Dave  

 

 

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Dave
     Are you moving in or vacationing? There is a lot to see if your just vacationing,but if you get to take up residence it will be easier to get the full affect. Hope you enjoy either one.
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wclm wrote: Dave
     Are you moving in or vacationing? There is a lot to see if your just vacationing,but if you get to take up residence it will be easier to get the full affect. Hope you enjoy either one.
                                  Clif K


 I am MOVING there My son and I bought a house there , he has lived there several years now .

 I have retired and he had been after me for several years to make the move so now I have no more excuse.

  I am sure I will love Colorado as soon as I get used to  the 9000 plus altitude where our house is . My 4 year old grandaughter is a big part of the excitement of going --she has promised to teach me  to fish-- even said she would put the squiggly worms on the hook if they scare me --- how can you turn an offer like down?

    Dave

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I'm sure you will enjoy it. As the crow flies I,m not to far from you, but as for the highway, that is just a few more miles.I am on the other side of the hills and just north of Denver. Maybe we can hook up some time.

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wclm wrote: Dave
I'm sure you will enjoy it. As the crow flies I,m not to far from you, but as for the highway, that is just a few more miles.I am on the other side of the hills and just north of Denver. Maybe we can hook up some time.

Clif K


 Cliff,

      Hooking up will be more than possible . I am being offered the opportunity ?? to drive  bus part time in Denver , the same company runs your bus service as in Las Vegas , where I just retired from. Might set up to work say--- a week a month, I like doing the job , but just got tired of 14 -16 hour days even if only 4 days a week.     

  So  like Glen Campbell sang years back ---  Maybe I can "leave a sleeping bag rolled up behind your couch!"L:  

 

   Dave. ---------AKA Ralph Cramden


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