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 Posted: Sun Feb 20th, 2011 07:12 pm
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Good tips! Ideally, Id love to find something like this for the main span, with shorter girders on each side. Ive searched the internet ad nauseam but have not found a kit that looks remotely like this. Lots of European looking stuff or higher end stuff that I cant afford. BTW, Vern that is the bridge on the Nacozari RR, built by the Wisconsin Bridge Co in 1913 to replace the original wooden span, which I suspect was burned during the Revolution.

 




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 Posted: Sun Feb 20th, 2011 07:24 pm
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So, Duane, there you have it. What was wrong with the suspension bridge anyway? As for structure loading capabilities, remember the SC trestle at MP9...nobody would believe that one if there wasn't a photo of it. Have fun!

                                     Woodie

I JUST THOUGHT OF THIS...check out the aerial tramway on the Mich. Cal. lumber co across the American river. Sure, only one car/loco could be ferried across at a time...but what an operation!



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 Posted: Sun Feb 20th, 2011 10:09 pm
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Woodie: It was just time for something new. The bridge sagged in the summer when it was over 100 in the garage, and pulled tight and buckled when cold, popping off the wood parts.



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 Posted: Sun Feb 20th, 2011 10:46 pm
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Yes, that is exactly what I was referring to for that long central span. You could scratch that yourself from ME HO girders and it would be a real showpiece!

As an added operational treat when it's done, try this suggestion: I always have crews blow the whistle when approaching Burro Canyon, as sure as shootin' some locals will be using the bridge for quick passage...sometimes including pack animals! I have never seen a mule or burro win in a head-to-head engagement with an iron horse! However, it would make a great photo to see an ore train paused on the bridge in front of a stubborn pack train that got caught on the bridge.



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Vern-your idea about the string of mules reminds me of a story a friend I had who worked on the Arizona Eastern told me: The engineers rounded a corner to find a rather large cow stuck midway accross a trestle: It seems that the heifer tried to cross the trestle, but her legs fell between the ties, rendering her unable to move. The Arizona Eastern which runs from Bowie AZ to Globe, only manages about 10-15mph. Unfortunately for the cow the engineer was unable to stop the train, leaving quite a mess on both trestle and loco...



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 Posted: Wed Mar 30th, 2011 12:22 pm
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Sad news from Mogollon: I was in Mogollon last week visiting family and took the afternoon to hike up to the Little Fanny company town above Mogollon. Rumor in Mogollon is that the EPA is suing the mining company that owns the company town, and is going to do one of their "clean-ups." In the past EPA cleanups usually mean removing all historic features. I will make a few calls/emails to see if this is the case, but in the meantime I'll post a few pics of the company town as it stands: There are about 20 structures left

 

 

 



 



 



 




 

 



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 Posted: Fri Apr 1st, 2011 02:43 am
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elminero67 wrote:
Vern-your idea about the string of mules reminds me of a story a friend I had who worked on the Arizona Eastern told me: The engineers rounded a corner to find a rather large cow stuck midway accross a trestle: It seems that the heifer tried to cross the trestle, but her legs fell between the ties, rendering her unable to move. The Arizona Eastern which runs from Bowie AZ to Globe, only manages about 10-15mph. Unfortunately for the cow the engineer was unable to stop the train, leaving quite a mess on both trestle and loco...

I would guess that isn't uncommon, especially considering the frequency (or should I say lack of frequency) of trains on the AE. As much as I like a good steak now and then and always thought PETA stood for People Enjoying Tasty Animals, I'll refrain from any attempts of bovine trestle humor. The plight of that animal was unfortunate indeed.

I remember seeing a video of the Alaska Railroad where their problem was caribou getting on long bridges or deep cuts, where they could not outrun the trains. It must be somewhat depressing for the crews to witness that.

In my own little miniature world, I prefer to think of the lazy prospectors with pack mules who want to get to the cold beer in town fast, taking their chances over the bridge. Fortunately, my little trains are noisy and slow, and so far the prospectors have avoided getting trapped on the bridge...

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 Posted: Sun Apr 10th, 2011 08:14 pm
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Progress has been slow while I'm trying to finish my thesis, but looking at Verns Sonora Estrella Grande gave me the inspiration to step away from the computer for an hour ar two, and work on the mesa behind the Kino Mission:



This is far as I made it before I ran out of plaster. For this side of the layout the mountains will be rather plain and undetailed as they are more of a setting. I'm sure Woodies sharp eyes will pick up the antenea on the Shay, which is undergoing surgery to look like the Gilpin SC PA & M #1 as she was in Silver City. Yes that is bondo.



When I did this model of the Tumamcacori Mission, I was on a tight timeframe as it was for an architecture class, and the facade came out a little crooked. Since I made molds for it I should be able to fix it.



From this angle it looks like I still have to do some forming before the final plastering. Im hoping to use the repetitive form of the mesa to give the feel of distance.



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 Posted: Tue Apr 12th, 2011 03:24 am
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It's great to see some work progressing, Duane...that scene will be dramatic with its depth, and the contrast of the mission to the steep mesa.

The mission is quite impressive...please post more photos. I wonder if it would look straight after a few margaritas? Seriously, if you have the molds perhaps another pour is in order...and perhaps a few more to sell on ebay. Anyway, I did a double-take when I first saw it...who moved Tumacacori???



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I think I may have to invent a Shay powered dust blower for the T & P, as the dust is getting thick these days...I have been assembling bits and pieces to build the new bridge-what does everyone think of the proportions/form?



 




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