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Larry T
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I am new to On30/DCC and have a few analog engines and a few DCC equipped engines(same models). My question is, can I Mu an analog engine behind a like DCC unit once both have been ID-ed to my Digitrax system?

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Someone may know better than me, but I don't see anyway of making this work. DC locos shpould run off of DC power packs. DCC equiped locos should run off of DCC systems.  Some DCC systems allow you to run one DC loco, but this is hard on the DC motor. Just my opinion.

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It is possible but wouid take messing with the speed parameters CV of the DCC loco to "match" the analog loco's speed. Why not just put a DCC decoder in the analog loco to make things easier?

                 Woodie

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Don't know zip about DCC, but isn't the track voltage constant?



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With what I have garnered it probably the easiest thing to do Woodie; there are many inexpensive decoders available now that this seems to be the way to go...thanx all...LT

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Well, actually the easiest thing to do is get rid of all dcc stuff and go radio control with onboard batteries! How's that for a snarky answer? If you did, you'd never be sorry...

                                          Woodie the troublemaker

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I have been lurking around and trying to get 'into' On30 radio control. I have just liquidated all my 'G' scale radio control RR to change to this scale. The transition to R/C Batt operation is a bit more than a neophyte like me can put his arms around. If it were more plug and play I would be there in a heart beat. I loved the 'G' world R/C. The future of smaller scale R/C is just around the corner as I see it and will be a very popular item as it will probably service HO as well as On30, etc. I want to get my construction under way soon and had to make the choice.

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Hey Larry-just go to the radio control part here on freerails and you will see that it is far simpler to install radio than installing DCC and then wading through a book to learn how to program it. If I can do it, I know you can!

                      Woodie

DCC is OK, I am just stirring the pot..

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That's all you do Woodie. ;)

RC is easy. Buy a Losi ESC, a li-po battery and a TX. Stuff the Losi ESC into the engine. Stuff the li-po into the engine. Turn on TX. Go. Done. :)

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Yet another question; can sound cards adapt to any of these R/C installations? I did read the input by Bill Fornshell in the R/C section posted in Aug. but nothing more...it seems to be a start for sound installation with R/C...

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Woodie put a Tusami (sp?) sound into a loco to prove that it worked, but the sound takes more battery power than the loco motor does, so he removed it. He and I are not impressed with sound, in my case I have never heard one that sounded like a real steam loco. I knew the fellow that developed the PFM, and later PBS sound systems, before he moved to Washington state. He spent so much time in his basement listening to  electronically generated noise that he swore that it sounded just like the real thing--not as far as I am concerned.


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Maybe ship modelers know a lot more about that...
This is a german manufacturer who makes digtal sounds for R/C:
http://www.le-elektronik.de/

Michael

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As Bill Fornshell can tell you, sound eats up far more battery power than just running. Bill uses the ALL-TROL system which has sound capabilities with r/c. As Herb stated, we don't care for sound effects (I love to hear the outdoor sounds since that's where my layout is) but as for now, I wouldn't have sound due to short charge life. An example..that Tsunami board I put in an On30 Shay would probably get me maybe an hour of run between charges. Without the sound, I get 6 to 8 hours on a charge. I can run silent and be able to have an op session without worrying about charging batteries. Someday, model train manufacturers will "see the light" but right now, they are groveling in the darkness and want everybody else to do the same.

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The simple answer is  yes   you can MU analog and DCC locos (I have) as well as 2 and 4 digit address locos. The analog loco won't have momentum (CV3 and CV4) programmed in (no decoder) so these two CVs are best programmed to 0:brill:.  I have a Digitrax Zephyr with 2 DT400R radio throttles and have never regretted going DCC. Many of my locos have sound and now that I'm going from HO logging to On30 logging, I'll have sound in all of my locos, mind you I'm going from 20 or so to 4 locosL:.

 I won't ever get into 'debates' on one system Vs another as they all have good and bad features. It's all a personal preference.

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