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 Posted: Wed Feb 2nd, 2011 10:50 am
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This is Tilly, the latest addition to Two Sister’s farm’s growing fleet of unusual vehicles. It is an ex Second World War 10 HP light utility car with a pick up body. She is used only for track maintenance purposes and not general haulage.


The kit is made by Tamiya and is rather delicate with the clear plastic parts being a rather poor fit. I have left the bonnet off to show the details in the engine bay, as it seemed a pity to hide them.


I made a false chassis to attach and locate the body to the power unit which is from an HO Bachmann HI-rail track maintenance van. The body has a solid block of plasticard at the back of the false chassis which was drilled and tapped. One long screw then holds the two together. It has little out rider wheels which also pick up current. I added extra weight in any place I could inside the plastic body to help it track better.


If you have found this little pick up truck to your liking then have a look at Two Sister’s Farm in the narrow gauge section of the forum. There are lots more examples of this sort of thing.









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Peter-that is cool as you know what! A wonderful model. I love it. What else can I say? I have been looking for ideas on another rail truck and you have inspired me to find something a bit more "modern" than the Model T I have...those "bug eye" headlights and neat grill do nthe trick. Which Tamiya kit did you use? Thank you.

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 Posted: Wed Feb 2nd, 2011 06:08 pm
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Hi Woodie,




I’m glad you like Tilly she is rather cute isn‘t she.


The Kit is 1/35 Tamiya No 308 British Light Utility car 10 HP. It comes complete with a seated driver figure as well. She should really have two headlights but I broke one in the rush to get the model finished for an exhibition I did the other week. With hindsight I would fix the headlights using a thin brass rod instead of the plastic one supplied in the kit.


Hope this helps.



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The false chassis looks like a neat idea.

From what I can work out, there were a number of British road vehicles being built at the time with similar bonnet and radiator styling.

Apart from the Austin Ten utility van ("utility" presumably getting corrupted into "tilly"), there were also a number of Bedfords (think Chevrolet...) with very similar styling. The Bedfords ranged in size from K types (similar in size to the Austin Ten), right up to O types (full sized commercials - variants included trucks and the iconic OB buses).


Meanwhile, in the Soviet Union, they were building some military trucks which might have looked rather familiar to some people:

http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/zve/kit_zve_3602.shtml

From what I can work out, these trucks appeared in a number of variants - one of the more numerous variants being the GAZ AAA, with 3 axles. Zvezda do a kit of this one - which would interest me, if it were in a different scale:

http://www.modelhobbies.co.uk/shop/zvezda-gazaaa-wwii-soviet-truck-3547-p-5790.html

 
(OK, I know there's a Unimodels kit of the GAZ AAA, in 1:48 - but I've never actually seen it. The Tamiya Austin Ten is also offered in 1:48 - as are a number of their other military vehicle kits including, of all things, a Komatsu bulldozer - but I'm not sure I'll be building rail based versions of any of them in the near future.)


Anyway, I think I'd better stop hijacking the thread ... .


Regards,

Huw.

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Woodie,




A couple of pictures showing a bit more detail of Tilly.



These were taken at a show a couple of weeks ago.









Also thanks Huw, your links are always interesting.





 

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The GAZ AA & AAA trucks were made from US (GMC/Chevy) designs by the Russians. Matter of fact, the US gave them some 1930's model trucks as "lend lease" and there are models of these also. ZVEZDA makes these models in 1:35 scale along with the KATYUSA rocket launcher truck which is a desd ringer for a GMC model. These trucks are not as "modern" looking as the British car shown, and I will look for something that would be available in the US, I doubt that such a car would be found in the wilds of New Mexico. The car kind of reminds me of an early 1940's Chevy...maybe that's what I want. Again, thanks for the inspiration.

BTW-anyone wanting the ZVEZDA kits can find them and more at SQUADRON on line.

                               Woodie

***The AA & AAA trucks were FORD designs...that's what I get for reading a kit's instructions. I promise to never do that again! Thanks to Herb "Mr Ford" Kephart for showing me the error of my ways. From now on, instruction sheets will be burned upon opening a new kit!*************

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I think the Roco Minitanks line have a somilar Russian truck available.

My On30 logging line is still in the early stages but I've been thinking of a model 'T' railcar along similar lines. The reason for wanting one on my otherwise 1900s logger is that McKenzie Iron & Steel make an O scale figure set of Laurel & Hardy to fit in an open tourer car. I think it'd be kool having them as the 'company brass':2t:



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 Posted: Thu Feb 3rd, 2011 01:30 pm
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mosslake1 wrote: My On30 logging line is still in the early stages but I've been thinking of a model 'T' railcar along similar lines.
I don't know whether they're available in Australia, but some UK model shops have recently been selling these - I wonder if they might be usable as donor models:

http://www.anticsonline.co.uk/2198_1_105746561.html

A number of 1:43 etched brass kits have also appeared of Model T based railmotors - like this Branchlines kit, which was built by a member of the British forum site RMweb:

http://mozzer-models-.fotopic.net/p60555433.html

 
While on the subject of models of old vehicles, some people might be wondering why I mentioned the Zvezda kits of GAZ AAs and AAAs (especially as I don't even model in 1:35). I've liked Wismar railbuses for some time. As I can't get O scale kits of these locally (or anywhere, at a price I can afford), I've been looking out for suitably sized (and priced) kits of the Ford AAs that I believe they were based on.

A few months back, I noticed one of the GAZ AAA kits in a model shop - and thought it looked familiar. This led to me doing some research on the web. (It also got me thinking about why some sites are known as search engines, as opposed to find engines - probably best if I don't go any further on this issue ... !)

A number of sources were suggesting that the GAZ AAs and AAAs were effectively Ford AAs, built under licence - I don't know the truth of this, as I've never seen one of the things for real. Even if I did know, I wouldn't get too worried about it.

OK, so I'd identified a kit with the hood styling I was looking for - unfortunately not in a scale I can use, so the idea goes on the back burner. If I come across one locally in a different scale, I might go for it (on the other hand, I might not - depends on the cost and whether I'm still interested) - time will tell.

My reason for mentioning the kits was really to show how a number of much older designs were still being made in some places, years after the original manufacturer had washed their hands of them - that was really about it.

 
Moving on, it isn't hard to see why the "Tilly" kit looked similar to a number of Chevrolets and Bedfords of the era (and some years later). In case they're of interest to anyone, here are some links to some Bedfords, seen at rallies. First, here's a Bedford K:

http://www.ianhardy.net/gallery/main.php/d/15158-2/CRW_3594.jpg

Now a Bedford O truck, followed by a Bedford OB bus:

http://slatford.co.uk/Kensworth%20Pics/Bedford%20OB.JPG

http://bus-and-coach-photos.com.s3.amazonaws.com/2700.jpg


It might be interesting to compare these to some WW2 LRDG Chevrolet trucks. Apart from the wheelarches and front grille and fender being built up a bit - and variations in wheelbase - the vehicles look very similar:

http://www.lrdg.org/LRDG-Photo-gallery(early).htm


This would probably make the Tamiya / Revell / Italeri kits very plausible as base models. Whether anyone chooses to use them is another matter...

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Thank you for the link Huw, this morning saw me in my local model shop ordering the four wheel Russian truck. I think it will make an excellent rail truck for the farm. I fancy a fuel tanker this time with tank mounted in the drop side body. This would be used to re-fuel the tractors working out in the fields.


I have a choice of chassis, an Athearn SW7 switcher or a Con-Cor SW1500, both run extremely well. Alternatively I could use Tenshodo for power and an un-powered truck for extra current collection. I will make a decision later when I see how much room I have.


When I was a lad in the early 1950’s I lived in a small village in Hertfordshire. Opposite was a small transport business who used horses as well as a couple of trucks, or lorries as we called them then. They were Fords and looked exactly like the kit I’ve ordered. That is the main reason I found the kit so attractive.


Once again Huw many thanks I would not have found this without your links.



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Peter,

Many thanks for your kind comments.

The tanker conversion sounds very workable - and I'm sure you could find a number of similar projects documented on the web. For example, I came across this one, based on the 3 axle variant (although I'm sure there would have been some based on the original 2 axle chassis - I believe the 3 axle version was developed because of local conditions):

http://www.hyperscale.com/features/2001/gazaais_2.htm

I don't know if it might also be worth checking through back issues of Truck Model World.


All the best with your project,

Huw.

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