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 Posted: Sat Feb 5th, 2011 12:46 pm
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Peter,

I'm glad to hear that.

I certainly think your models look great - and very credible.

The reason for my comment was the way that a minority of people visiting exhibitions sometimes seem to go into "hypercritical mode" every time they encounter a model that isn't a museum standard rendition of the one prototype and location they're familiar with.

Even if they were ever to find their idea of model railway perfection, some of these guys still wouldn't be happy - it's enough to make me wonder why they go to exhibitions in the first place.

Strangely enough, these ... erm ... gentlemen don't do layouts. Still, if they did, isn't it reassuring to know that they'd probably be the best layouts in the world?

I was just hoping you didn't get a lot of trouble with these trolls.

Anyway, I'll let you get on with what you're doing.

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Huw.


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 Posted: Sat Feb 5th, 2011 01:29 pm
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This is the latest project I am currently working on. Is it a critter? It’s hard to say. Although it looks home built it was made by Muir- Hill in Manchester around 1940.


I have got a Scaledown white metal kit of a Fordson Major 27N which is very heavy. I’m in the process of making a plasticard chassis for the tractor body to sit on. Then finding some practical way of fixing the Tenshodo power bogie to it.


Note in the picture the exposed drive chain, imagine what health and safety would make of that. Mine will have a guard to protect my plastic people.


The prototype worked on The Ashover Light Railway in Derbyshire. The line was two foot gauge and had a mix of internal combustion engines and four Baldwin 4-6-0 tank engines 




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 Posted: Sat Feb 5th, 2011 04:01 pm
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Peter,

I think Muir-Hill tractor-based locos qualify as critters.

As for the exposed chain, I wonder if the photo is of a machine awaiting maintenance, or on a scrap line. My reason for thinking this is that I've seen a number of pictures (photos and drawings) of chain-driven critters, with covers enclosing the chains.

 
I don't know if you've come across these links - showing a Muir-Hill being restored on the Abbey Light Railway:

http://www.freewebs.com/abbeylightrailway/no9.htm

http://www.freewebs.com/abbeylightrailway/Muir%20Hill.jpg

I also came across this picture:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/28652222@N03/3441332029/


What strikes me from some of these pictures is that the chassis is effectively a hollow box, with axles wheels and drivetrain dropped into it. I haven't tried this - but I can't help wondering if it might be feasible to fit the SPUD in a similar way:

1.  A plastikard false floor, with suitable cutout (or fixing hole) in the centre, to allow the SPUD to be fixed to it.

2.  Some angle, around the edges of the false floor - with sides and ends fitted to the angle - the sides and ends going below and above the false floor, creating a box which the tractor stuff can be dropped into.

Just my thoughts - I'm sure somebody will have better ideas.

Whatever the score, I'll be interested in seeing how this goes - I've got a few projects on the drawing board at the moment - and I'm trying to solve a number of the same technical challenges.


Anyway, I've no wish to hijack your thread.

All the best,

Huw.


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Huw,



Thank you for your interest and the links. I must admit I didn’t know about the one on The Abbey Light Railway.



There is a Muir - Hill Fordson preserved at Ravensglass with a small open cab.



I’m sure you are right about the chain being guarded when working on the Ashover example. The photo shows the device looking in a rather un loved state in what looks like a scrap line.



On the model I have made a plasticard frame with flat sides and a deck with suitable holes cut out to accommodate the engine sump etc .To hold the tractor body to this, it will be secured with both superglue and a small self tapper due to its considerable weight.



The Tenshodo bogie will have a plasticard mounting with a hole in the middle for holding the motor, the screw going downwards. There will be a hole at each end of the mounting for the screws going upwards into the chassis with the body attached. It is not very prototypical I know but the tractor I have is actually a later model so it will be my usual generic bodge.





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A critter owned and built by my fellow operator Andy Knott using the Bachmann Davenport as a starting point. Andy has altered the radiator grille and made a new cab to give a little protection from the elements. It is rather unusual in that it is made from corrugated iron.

The critter made it debut at the St Neots exhibition, I have weathered it a little before the show opened. It still needs a little work I think, but it certainly looks different.

We were ably assisted all day by Thomas a youngster from the organising club and although he had never done any proper operation before performed very well.

It was good to see a youngster taking such an interest.








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Peter-I really like your new critter! The corrugated metal and roll-down window curtains are just great. I know that she runs well, the Bachmann Davenports seem to never "miss a beat" when running. Very cool.

It's nice that you have a kid running trains also. Our little On30 group has met here before and the last time, I gave transmitters to the teens and they had a blast running while the old goats sat and talked about running. Get them involved.

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 Posted: Sat Apr 2nd, 2011 02:41 pm
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The Fordson Major 27n powered rail truck is the latest device to have come out of the farm workshop.


It is very loosely based on a device made by Muir Hill that provided the inspiration to build a similar device for my Two Sister‘s Farm layout.


I was given a damaged 1/32 scale white metal Fordson and having a photo of the Muir Hill device decided it would be an excellent starting point.


The model is powered by a WB35 Tenshodo bogie. This is held by one screw to a plasticard false chassis which in turn is held by two screws to the plasticard chassis that supports the white metal tractor body. The driver figure is a German tank crewman supposedly playing cards from Master Box.


The finished model is much higher from the rail top than the Muir Hill example due to the space taken up by the Tenshodo bogie. Therefore it is assumed an accident damaged tractor had a chassis built for it in the farm workshop. It is used for light shunting in the yard due to its relatively low power and its three speed gearbox.



It still needs a little more work on the weathering, I find the photos helpful.













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Hi Peter

Great thread on your critters...
...and placky truck (lorry !) models (wink).

Been toying with the idea of the Tamiya LRDG 'pink panther' for a while now...
...that Chevy is a bute !

& WOW !!!...
...the GAZ does look very 'Anglo'...
...I know there were Ruskie copys of stuff made in WWII...
...I have an amphibious vehicle, which is.

The truck looks great 'on the farm' Peter !

All the best.

Cheers

Si.



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Thanks for your interest Si.

The Russian kit was very inexpensive and nothing fitted very well. This didn't matter in my case as I only used a few bits of it. Even the box it came in was poorly made and fell apart on opening it.
You get what you pay for I guess.

I'm afraid the model shop where I bought the kit is no more, so now everything I need I either get at exhibitions or by mail order.

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Yes, quite a cool critter. I just love things like that anyway. I do agree about the Russkie kits, I have "built" 3 ZAVEDA (?) GAZ trucks and they all required lots of fiddling, cutting, filling, and setting on fire. I now have a great supply of "stuff" for future projects. And only one box came intact, the others were smooshed and it is a wonder nothing fell out!

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