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 Posted: Tue Jul 12th, 2011 10:54 pm
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Yes-you might look at Radio Control for Small Scales here on Freerails. With 75 thousand views, someone is reading it! Many will jump on the "bandwagon", but that thread is the first one on the internet. I am glad to see that others are looking to r/c now, when I started talking about it, there were many who didn't want to know. You should read the e mails I got around 8 years back...now look who's talking!
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Hi and welcome!

I've been RC'ing for 4 years now I think. It's all Woodies fault! 

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I picked up the following reply from the Sn3 yahoo group. Bodes well for R/C battery powered control.  



In Sn3@yahoogroups.com, "wcbeverly" <mail2archive@...> wrote:

I was looking at the NWSL web site and I noticed that they have a s-CAB Radio DCC Control system.

Hey Bill,

Don Gage is a member of the Terrapin Narrow Gaugers and he brought an On30 loco to one of our meets. Don is a big proponent of battery/RC control. He stunned everyone by running his loco across the garage floor, homasote and even on track! I became interested in this system when I had dirty track and a mysterious short last Feb right before (of course) my open house for the Sn3 Symposium.

I attend the monthly operating session that Steve Harris has down near San Diego. There I met a couple more guys that are into battery and RC control. Mike Pfulb invited me out to The Big Train Show in Ontario last May. I got the full scoop on how this all works, and got to run trains using RC. In short, IMO opinion it is the way of the future. The RC board is about the same size and thickness as a Tsunami decoder, one of the guys in San Diego is putting them in Blackstone K-27's. The batteries are very small also, about an inch wide and maybe 2 inches long, and there are several brands and sizes to choose from. Mike told me he gets about 5 hours of run time before he needs to recharge.

The advantage to using this system....no more gaps, wiring, shorts or dirty track to deal with. The S cab that you saw works just like the NCE DCC cab that I now use. You can run 99 locos at once if you are able. You can switch back and forth between locos that are running. The only difference on the two systems is that regular DCC uses a 4 digit address, and the S cab uses a 2 digit address...not a big deal. I gave my K-27 to Mike last saturday to get the RC and battery installed. I am so sold on this that I am converting all my locos to this system. The initial cost is $200 which includes the cab, RC board and install. I believe batteries run about $19 and a charger isnt much more. Obviously the price will drop per loco since you dont always need a cab included. Stanton (maker of the S cab) just signed up NWSL to handle his products. If you are interested I should get my loco back next week, and I can post a video of it. Jeff.

PS, this works with the Tsunami's so you still have all that great sound. All you have to do is lay rail and run trains.

It'll be interesting to see what happens...



 



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 Posted: Sun Aug 28th, 2011 02:09 am
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Interesting news, James...I just wonder if any of those guys were part of the mob that tried to burn me & Joe B at the stake many years ago! What goes around, comes around.

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 Posted: Sun Sep 18th, 2011 05:04 pm
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I received the Stanton Starter System in the mail

Thursday and have been tinkering with it this weekend, I do have a few questions.

Do the Bachmann motors come isolated from the track power from the factory or do I need to isolate them?

Do I connect the Stanton decoder to the Bachmann dcc decoder or do I connect the Stanton directly to the motor leads and discard the Bachmann decoder?

I ask these questios not because I couldn't get my

loco moving (it ran great) but by removing the stock decoder I gain space.

I'm very excited about this system and am looking forward to using it, I'm sure there are more questions to come as time permits me to play with it.

Thanks

Carl

 

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Hi Carl,

No need for 2 decoders. Just remove the original decoder and connect the NCE decoder that came with the S-CAB starter package.

I don't know the details of your Bachmann loco or what brand of decoder they used, but the motor must be isolated from track input if the loco was equipped for DCC.



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With reference to Jim Sullivan's comments, I'd like to add my vote for RC controlled trains as the control system of the future.  I've been working on this concept for over 3 years and only recently learned there are many more out there with the same passion. 

I'm now at the the point of building a prototype HO locomotive.  There is the possibility of going commercial with this, so I can only say I'm using high efficiency motors, LiFePO4 batteries and a 2.4 MHz system for control.  A major feature will be on-board control of switches.  I also plan to incorporate basic steam and diesel sound, fiber-optic lighting and dynamic battery charging, all without using track power or signals.  

There are many obstacles to overcome and many technologies to evaluate, but all looks feasible and practical at this point.  I appreciate all the thoughts and comments on this site and hope my experience with this approach is helpful and encouraging to others.  At the risk of this not being original, I'd like to suggest these systems be called RCC, or Radio Command Control.

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 Posted: Mon Sep 26th, 2011 05:23 pm
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Howdy Dan, welcome to Freerails and to this r/c site. There is a lot of interest in r/c here, most of us are old cats who have gotten tired of the old ways. You can call r/c whatever you want just as long as you actually use it, I will continue with my olden terms. Keep us posted on your progress.
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So....

I think I'm about really, really close to listing my NCE PowerCab on ebay and ordering a Stanton Radio Cab. Seriously, I've had enough of track wiring and power and the Stanton system seems to be the first option to come down the pike that looks to be a realistic choice, includes sound, is reasonably priced, and appears to be well made.

Anyways, couple more questions to add to the pile:

- How does this system handle CV programming? For example, if I was to get a receiver that comes bundled with the TSU-1000 is it still possible to change the CV's for the different whistle sounds?

- I'm unclear on the cab-to-engine correlation. Say I get the starter kit and 2 extra receivers and convert 3 of my engines. They are all controlled by the 1 cab I own. However if I want to buy a 2nd cab at a future point and allow friends to operate on the layout at the same time as me using those same 3 engines is that possible?

- Where's the best place to buy? NWSL? I saw some talk about direct-buy -- still available?

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Titus has the following questions regarding the Stanton Radio Cab (S-CAB for short):


"How does this system handle CV programming?" For a TSU-1000 decoder, the most convenient way is to use your NCE Power Cab with a "Stanton radio adapter". For an NCE D13SR decoder, simple CVs such as momentum can be programmed directly from S-CAB.

"if I want to buy a 2nd cab at a future point and allow friends to operate on the layout at the same time as me using those same 3 engines is that possible" Answer is 'Yes'.

"Where's the best place to buy? NWSL?" NWSL is selling Stanton stuff.

"I saw some talk about direct-buy -- still available?" As a FreeRail member, please send me a PM.



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