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 Posted: Fri Apr 8th, 2011 04:55 pm
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Here's a photo of an Oriental/Powerhouse hybrid 2-4-4-2 that I recently got:




The drawbar needs some electrical attention, but otherwise it runs extremely well. I don't know how far I might go in touching up the paint. The prototype had a Russia Iron boiler jacket, and at minimum the smokebox and firebox need to be graphited. I wish someone made decals of the great builders plates that Bachmann/Spectrum puts on its recent steam.

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 Posted: Fri Apr 8th, 2011 11:37 pm
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John...what scale is that loco ????

2-4-4-2 is a rare little bird indeed. I think only one maker has made this model , from what i have seen posted about them elsewhere.   I believe Tom Yorke  said he has/had  one also.  It looks really nice and i wish it was available in On30..  The 2-6-6-2 is a great loco but this is much smaller and more suited to logging mining work, i think. 

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 Posted: Sat Apr 9th, 2011 10:10 am
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It's HO standard gauge. A brass version was done by Gem -- I got one of those years ago, but it literally fell apart when I stripped off the varnish to paint it. Oh, well.

The 2-4-4-2 appears to have been something of a Baldwin standard design, even if they didn't do too many of them. Little River 126 was unsatisfactory, and the railroad sent it back to Baldwin, which resold it to a line in Oregon, and it ran for various owners until the 1950s. Baldwin replaced the 126 with another one for the Little River, which ran successfully there and was painted for a while in Southern green. Model Railroader published the plan and ran another Baldwin builders photo of a 2-4-4-2 that ran in Mississippi, but burning wood with smaller drivers.

It's certainly as common as the Bachmann On30 2-6-6-2. Actually, I got it from my hobby shop as a second or third hand item for about what you'd pay for an equivalent Bachmann. I told the guy this meant Bachmann would probably bring one out next month.

 

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 Posted: Sat Apr 9th, 2011 10:24 am
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I quizzed Lee Riley of bachmann a couple of years ago and i got the 9 of hearts from him on the possibility of on30 : 2-4-4-2 loco's and also the stearns type heisler like wslc.

These rare and unusual locos will remain the domain of the japan/korean brass builders who do the 25--50 units editions

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 Posted: Sat Apr 9th, 2011 10:43 am
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Well, that's interesting, although it's worth pointing out that Bachmann has done logging-type Mallets in On30 (the 2-6-6-2) and G/F. Their market choices in HO, Shay, Climax, USRA 2-6-6-2, modern 4-4-0, Ma & Pa 4-6-0, Russian Decapod, etc etc, haven't been all that different from PFM's and Gem's choices in the early days of brass. Something like the 2-4-4-2 is always going to sell, I think. Powerhouse, according to the box, did the 2-4-4-2 in every road name the prototype had, and frankly, if I saw one available in Columbia River Belt Line at the same price, I'd turn right around and get that one, too.

If Riley chooses not to do that specific prototype, he's clearly still on that wavelength.

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 Posted: Sat Apr 9th, 2011 03:42 pm
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John, we want these specific odd ball locos , but they have to think " how many people are going to buy this."   I think anything they are going to invest a lot of $$$$$ in tooling to make is going to have to sell in the tens of thousands,  not hundreds.  Thats the realm of brass and the mountain model imports division.

As far as on30 goes, which is what i am interested in, ya have to say at this point and i think a lot of others would be in the same mind set.....how many more locos do i need ???  I already have 4 shays, 2 climaxes, one 2-8-0,  3 dunkirks, RGS goosie, 5 of the 2-6-0, one forney, 5 of the railtrucks, 3 porters 2-4-0 and  three 0-4-0, throw in a couple of c-16 and other than a  couple of twin head macks switchers, what do i really need ????  maybe that new 4-6-2 with sound and a 4-4-0.

Other than a heisler, not sure what i could use because not into the colorado locos.  I did buy a precision scale brass On3 GARFORD rail truck which was narrowed to On30 for me.. Guess if i want that stearns wagon top boiler wslc heisler i would have to find a brass PSC On3 one and get it narrowed.

Not sure if anybody has tried to take the 2-6-6-2 down to 2-4-4-2 configuration.  Anybody see anything written anywhere ?

How about you fellow ON30 maniacs.....what do you need in new locos and what would you WANT to see made. ????

Make some posts and lets hear your thoughts.  !!

 

mike

 

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 Posted: Sat Apr 9th, 2011 05:06 pm
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You might be better off being content with the locos Bachmann now has in On30, they will be "upgraded" with sound effects...but the "insiders" say there will be no more new On30 locos. Of course, they could be crazy also.

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 Posted: Mon Apr 11th, 2011 08:39 am
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 I have one of those 2-4-4-2 Powerhouse locos. Sure was a smooth runner. I built an oil tank for the tender and was half way through installing a Tsunami sound decoder when I moved west (of course the engine is still over east in NSW):bang:. Now, with my changing to On30, I suppose I'll sell it off with my other logging stuff....:sad:

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A bit dark photo, but some of my logging fleet with my 2-4-4-2 on the front track, a few years back.

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 Posted: Fri Aug 5th, 2011 11:37 am
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W C Greene wrote: You might be better off being content with the locos Bachmann now has in On30, they will be "upgraded" with sound effects...but the "insiders" say there will be no more new On30 locos. Of course, they could be crazy also.

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well, i guess the NEW ANNOUNCEMENT JULY/August 2011, of a bachmann On30 stearns type HEISLER just blows that NO MORE NEW ON30 LOCOS, into the weeds...  ????  YA ??

 

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Hi All,  I just found this site and especially this thread.  I'm helping a friend build his H.O. layout.  This guy is really good at bashing locos and rolling stock.  We were talking some time ago about wanting  a 2-4-4-2 and he finally decided to try it.  We each bought a Bachmann 2-6-0 with DCC and sound and another 2-6-0 without sound for about $185.00 total, and he got to work.  He removed the rear drivers from each loke, added a trailing truck from the junk box to the rear engine, spliced the boilers together, made numerous other mods and ended up with a very nice looking, rare locomotive with DCC and sound for less than $200.00.  Another of his specialties is powering up tenders and some rolling stock to provide extra pulling power.  His layout has 2% to 2 1/2% grades and if any given loke can not handle the grade, we just add a powered box or passenger car as appropriate to the consist and away we go.  Even when you know the car is powered, you can't see it as it passes by.  Now he will get started on my engine.  I can't wait for it to get finished.  I will try to post some photos later.

Jim M.:old dude:  

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