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 Posted: Sun May 22nd, 2011 06:49 pm
   
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I was wondering, as I have given up my Sn42 dream, which type of narrow gauge engine (steam) would be better at hill climbing. I am thinking about the Bachmann 2-6-0, the 2-6-2, and the 2-8-0. I would use the B-mann mogul, and I could make it a 2-6-2 is I wanted to, and there is the Bachmann 2-8-0, but I hate the outside frame, maybe I could change it, then again, I could also make the 2-6-0 a 2-8-0 if I wanted to. But which wheel arrangement would be better for climbing hills, or 3%. I know the 2-8-0 would win, but I want to know which would be better for my $$$'s. Thanks. Also would like opinions on the Bachamann 2-6-0 and 2-6-0, and what about the 4-6-0?

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 Posted: Sun May 22nd, 2011 07:25 pm
   
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Probably a large one with lots of small wheels, or a geared one.



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 Posted: Sun May 22nd, 2011 07:27 pm
   
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NO GEARED STEAM! NO NO!













That's just the way I like my steam no geared ones.

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 Posted: Sun May 22nd, 2011 07:50 pm
   
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Bachmann 2-6-6-2.

The drivers are rather small for a steam loco and I would guess give it good traction

Better still, get the loco you desire, and adjust the grade to suit :Crazy:

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 Posted: Sun May 22nd, 2011 07:53 pm
   
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Paladin wrote: Bachmann 2-6-6-2.

The drivers are rather small for a steam loco and I would guess give it good traction

Better still, get the loco you desire, and adjust the grade to suit :Crazy:

Don
Nope, no 2-6-6-2, can't have articulateds in a Canadian railway, they pretty much didn't exist in canada, so I'd like to keep it somewhat prototypical. Also don't like anorexic looks. Thanks though. What grades do you think a 2-6-0 would take in real life?


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 Posted: Sun May 22nd, 2011 10:26 pm
   
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Alot of logging an mining railroads swore by small drivered 2-6-2s, particularly saddle tankers. While they lose a little weight over the drivers, they could handle rougher track and sharper curves than the consolidations.



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 Posted: Mon May 23rd, 2011 08:23 am
   
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elminero67 wrote: Alot of logging an mining railroads swore by small drivered 2-6-2s, particularly saddle tankers. While they lose a little weight over the drivers, they could handle rougher track and sharper curves than the consolidations.
Okay, with that in mind, I found a bunch of photos of ones that should suit, and could be built out of the Bachmann On30 Mogul. Here they are. I know that tankers can't go as far, so I, as always with model railroading decisions, am torn between the tank and tender. But I will use mostly 2-6-2, but then again I really like the size, looks, etc of the Bachmann mogul the way it is, of course it needs a little improvement detail wise, but I can't make the decision, partially why I ask you guys.  Grr, can't figure it out right know, but how popular was the 2-6-0, for hill climbing, and narrow gauge applications. I will though try to make a 2-6-2 out of the 2-6-0, and see if I like it enough, if not, I can always sell it on ebay...

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 Posted: Mon May 23rd, 2011 12:02 pm
   
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 A lot of these engines don't scale out in the traction department. You may find that out if your layout grades become excessive. If you buy a particular engine , put some track on a straight board a few feet long. Run the engine up the grade to get a feel for the pulling capabilities. Then build your layout with that in mind. Steep grades are hard to over come once there built in. As Clint Eastwood said" A mans got to know his limitations". Good luck!!!!
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 Posted: Mon May 23rd, 2011 05:11 pm
   
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In the world of model railroading it is better to keep the track as level as possible and shape the topography for the illusion of grades. Use hills, cuts, ravines, etc.



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 Posted: Mon May 23rd, 2011 06:43 pm
   
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OK, no Shays...that limits you to modeling a rack railroad or maybe using a hoist to help pull cars up the grade. Geared locos were prefered by roads that had STEEP GRADES because they could do the job. Rod locos are fine, but they ain't geared. Possibly that outside frame 2-8-0 would do fine on grades since the weight is down over (and around) the drivers. But then, you could make any rod loco model pull grades if you put traction tires on all the drivers and ran with onboard batteries and radio control (traction tires won't allow track power pickup)

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