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 Posted: Fri Dec 2nd, 2011 11:45 pm
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Had to do a double take when I saw the date on this HO Model:

http://www.google.com/patents?id=8bFlAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA4&dq=%22ore+car%22&hl=en&ei=NKjZToqYFO7QiAKhzs2_BA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7&ved=0CEUQ6AEwBjgU#v=onepage&q=%22ore%20car%22&f=false



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 Posted: Sat Dec 3rd, 2011 10:36 am
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Beggin yer pardon, Sir  but all I see is a patent with a drawing and a bunch of the usual weasel words. No mention of a model, although at that point in time the Patent Office might still have required one. As far as I know, Patent Office models, while made to scale, were never made to a prescribed scale- if this is wrong, I would like to be corrected.


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 Posted: Sat Dec 3rd, 2011 10:39 am
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Sorry but I don't see where it says that this is an HO model. Maybe I'm missing something here.
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 Posted: Sat Dec 3rd, 2011 10:53 am
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Hey Duane--

At the top, under the patent number--it says


No model!

Gotcha!


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 Posted: Sat Dec 3rd, 2011 11:10 am
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Whats the expression about a joke not being that funny if you have to explain it?
On the heading at Google it was described as a "HO Model" ore car. On the page it was printed "NO Model" which actually is neither funny nor relevant.
All is not lost, as the Google patent page is a great place to surf and research!



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 Posted: Sat Dec 3rd, 2011 09:33 pm
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Jeez--what do you expect from someone who likes post office jeeps?

(inside joke, so the rest of you folks please ignore)


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 Posted: Sun Dec 4th, 2011 08:41 am
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i think in new york there is a mesuem of patent models they all were built to 3-8 scale[1-32]
cheers kim

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 Posted: Sun Dec 4th, 2011 06:04 pm
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Yes-most all railroad "museum models" are built to 1:32 scale. As for oldest HO model, that might take some time to research but I know that Muj's (Mr Caldwell) Great Western Brass Betsy 2-8-0's are the oldest HO I have personally seen. These old kits were made back in the late 40's into the mid 50's or so. The kits have Lindsay power and solid brass boilers. Anybody who is unsure about soldering would have a coronary looking at one of these. Muj has one built & running and the other still in the box.
I trust that I haven't hijacked the thread, I just had to jabber a bit.
Woodie
BTW-I have several pairs of Baker and Mantua HO couplers, they could be older than Muj's locos..



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 Posted: Sun Dec 4th, 2011 09:59 pm
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Years ago I visited George Stock's model railroad shop in the Germantown area of Philadelphia PA. He had an operating outside third rail layout with locos and cars that he scratchbuilt in the 30's He and Allen L Rice (AKA Eric La Nal) supposedly were the first to import HO locos and parts from England.


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Probably not the oldest, but I have 1952 Fleischmann 1360. Runs like a top.

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