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Giles Registered
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I recently experimented with building a radio controlled truck, to run round my new O gauge / O-14 layout. It is a 'Corgi' Vangaurd Morris Commercial, now with full proportional control, including a Micro Tiny RX/speed controller (with reverse) which is approx 12mm square. A Li-Po battery from an iPod Nano sits under the load bed, leaving all the workings mostly invisible. There is also a driver fitted, but not in this photo!   Also, a video of it 'on trials' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Yp7Sy8ni3Y&context=C38153feADOEgsToPDskIayKH04tNDo8lIhjvL61sG |
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Lucas Gargoloff Registered 
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Very funny!!! Another way for play with something not related with trains, but in a train layout !  |
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Herb Kephart Moderator 
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Neat! Now you can play "race the train to the crossing" Did you change the gearing to get it to run realistically slow? I like that! Herb |
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W C Greene Moderator 
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Way to go! Now you must decide between running trains or running trucks. Is the train R.C. also? Woodie |
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Herb Kephart Moderator
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Woodie You should do that with the tour bus that you have. Herbie |
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Giles Registered
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The motor/gearbox unit is a beautiful 6v job built for video camera lens control, and this one has a built in 100:1 ratio, giving a scale top speed of 20mph. You can also buy 3v and 12v versions, but the 6v is ideal for running off a single Li-Po. I forgot to mention that this works WITH the railway..... The NG tippers will discharge down a chute into either standard gauge wagons, or, when required, into the back of this truck, which takes about three tippers worth, and will then drive off into the sunset! The trains are DCC, rather than radio. Thus far, I hadn't considered radio, and I suspect I shan't have space in these!   |
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Lucas Gargoloff Registered
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I want one of those ! |
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wclm Registered 
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Nice work Giles. That has a lot of potential in other areas of the layout. Nicely done. Clif K |
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Giles Registered
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Here's the latest video of the truck working on 'The End of The Line', which is not yet finished! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOcCpTOzXcA All the best, Giles |
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johnlostcreek Registered 
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Hi Giles, Wonderful is the car. I want to start one in 1:35 Do you have some more information (photos) about the construction ? I thought I had seen more about the construction on the internet, but can't find more. John |
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Giles Registered
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Hi John, Here's the full story of the build from beginning to end - warts and all! I hope it helps...... http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/18108-radio-controlled-road-vehicle/ |
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johnlostcreek Registered
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Hi Giles. Thanks for the link. I'm going to look equally good tonight John |
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W C Greene Moderator
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I can't look at that link, it makes me want to burn my stuff! LOL Woodie |
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johnlostcreek Registered
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Hi Woodie Look at this site.There are very small parts for rc https://www.shop.kkpmo.com/index.php/language/en regards John |
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W C Greene Moderator
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Incredible stuff! With the small gearhead motors shown and tiny board/batteries-anything is possible. Thanks for the link, I will look at it again for sure. Woodie |
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johnlostcreek Registered
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Hi Woodie. I use dcc because the sound in my locs do you have some tips and advice about sound with RC I am also planning to create a A ford it in 1: 35 and also want sound in this car John |
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Giles Registered
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Mistake...... Happy New Year To everyone! Last edited on Sat Dec 29th, 2012 12:05 pm by Giles |
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W C Greene Moderator
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Howdy John. Nope, I don't have sound in anything but it is possible. I do know that a TSUNAMI steam sound board will work with r/c, I have one and tried it in a Shay. I couldn't figure out how to access the bell & whistle but the chuff worked fine. I ran it for about 5 minutes to prove it would work...and went back to my prefered "silent running" attitude. I'm sure someone can answer your question, wait a bit. Woodie |
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VTBernie Registered
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The Tam Valley receiver works with DCC and Tsunami sound. Works great with Airwire controller. Bernie |
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Old_Steamer38 Registered
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Hi Giles I ran your video a couple of times without the sound on (not to alert the domestic management) or I get "No we don't have the room anymore"! But I risked it and she thought I was just listening to music. (Good idea that). I did pre-empt a little when you drove under the conveyer. (Will it load)? But all became apparent when you’re Lister? With three tubs came along, then your tipping mechanism. Fantastic.  You have the same tipping arrangement on the other loading chute. Do you use the same little industrial arrangement for that as well? The build diary well thought out, easy to follow.  |
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Giles Registered
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Hi Brian, Glad you enjoyed it! Yes, the same arrangement - straight into the 16T wagons...... I'm in the process of building a second lorry - a Ford Trader with a DelTang 2.4Ghz receiver/ESC in it - much cheaper, and even smaller! Sooooo much to do.....l Cheers, Giles |
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Giles Registered
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I'm just in the process of finishing a second RC truck (the red one...) it now just needs a new British style rear body - in place of the European style shown. This has been fitted with a DelTang receiver/esc, which is brilliant, and trouble -free (as well as being a third of the cost of its predecessor). I'm a convert. It's slightly harder to drive with this transmitter, as both steering and forward/reverse are on the same stick, but I dare say on other transmitters it would be possible to split them. Bid thanks to David from DelTang for the excellent hardware, and some support - which dealt with my stupidity - not with his hardware !  |
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DavidT Registered
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Giles, Truck looks good. I think I put steering onto the wrong ch for you, sorry. This is something that can be changed if you want to try programming. I think the channel is '2' but should be '4'. You need to switch the Tx on. Then hold the sticks at center with a rubber band. Then switch the truck on and wait for the fast flash. Then remove the rubber band and count flashes: 1=H No (down) 2=F No 3=P Yes (up) 1=P1 Yes 1=Servo Yes 2=Ch2 No 3=Ch3 No 4=Ch4 Yes Led should come on solid. |
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Giles Registered
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Just to say that the transmitter/ drivability issue is completely sorted - and it's brilliant! In fact it's so much better than the receiver type I was using before, I've ordered another DelTang from David, and as soon as I can get my hands on another transmitter, I shall replace the unit in the original blue lorry! David has been incredibly helpful in this, with receivers received in the post in under 4 hours! Thank you, David! |
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mwiz64 Registered 
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4 hours... You guys must be neighbors. I'll agree David is a very helpful guy. |
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Giles Registered
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Ah..... That'll be 24 hours then....... |
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Giles Registered
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Finally finished another RC lorry to run on TEOTL. This one is a bigger Ford Thames, and has the same motor/gearbox unit with 100:1 drive, and a IPod Nano, or somesuch battery powering it. the significant difference is that rather than having a 27MHz Micro Tiny receiver, which necessitated the massive arial on the transmitter, and could be a bit 'glitchy' - this one has the 2.4GHz DelTang receiver, which is smoother, cheaper, and has a much more discrete transmitter. It's altogether much better, and much less hassle, and works straight out of the packet..... Big thanks again to David for just making these things available ........   Last edited on Fri Feb 15th, 2013 03:49 pm by Giles |
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Giles Registered
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A quick video for amusement.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngDBlAL1Otc&feature=youtube_gdata_player |
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Giles Registered
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For general Information, having just done an exhibition with both lorries on Saturday, it seems that the lorries will last over 3 hours between 20 minute re-charges (iPod nano battery). Very much better than I thought! The new DelTang RX solutions in both lorries were faultless throughout, and there was a perpetual crowd round the layout. |
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Rod Hutchinson Registered 
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Giles, The trucks are very impressive. |
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mwiz64 Registered
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What's next, Giles... Maybe a dump truck? |
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Herb Kephart Moderator
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How about a tanker--carrying adult liquid refreshments? Herb |
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Giles Registered
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Herb Kephart wrote:How about a tanker--carrying adult liquid refreshments? Now that's right up my street.........  |
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Giles Registered
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Another lorry joined the fleet to work on 'Denton Brook' - a Bedford TK artic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdY43jDFDmA |
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davecttr Registered
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Speechless with envy again - brilliant |
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Lee B Registered 
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I am VERY impressed with these trucks. The thing I cannot understand is why someone isn't offering conversion kits or finished vehicles you could drive around an O scale layout. Most of all, I'd want a US 1930s delivery truck or a US Army Ambulance from WW2. Either would allow for all the 'guts' for such a conversion. I'd pay top dollar for something like that, as I do NOT have the skills to make one myself. |
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Rod Hutchinson Registered
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There is plenty of r/c vehicles, but Giles work is very much that of the enthusiast, not the mass market. Last edited on Tue Mar 21st, 2017 12:46 am by Rod Hutchinson |
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Lee B Registered
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Rod Hutchinson wrote: There is plenty of r/c vehicles I 1/43 scale? If so, please let me know where to find any of those... |
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Rod Hutchinson Registered
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I didn't express myself well. Most R/C vehicles are constructed and sold to the toy market. Giles work is one of an engineer/modeller who has had to construct something quite specific for his hobby. Much like the way modellers construct scenery or build a loco or carriage. R/C aircraft and boats in similar, though ready to run is more avaible, but not perhaps 1:43 scale. |
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Lee B Registered
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Well, if Giles (or anyone else) wanted to custom-make one of these for my own layout, I'd be willing to discuss what is a fair value for the effort and the parts... |
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W C Greene Moderator
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Lee, yes it is possible to build something similar to Giles' work...but it would take some serious funds! Giles has the good fortune (besides being an artist and micro-surgeon) that he has access to the ultra small receivers which make these vechicles possible. proportional forward/reverse and steering. From what I understand, such "Eurpoean" devices are "banned" by our Homeland Security because crazies "can make bomb detonators" from them! However, if the parts could be had here, maybe we could talk. I have wanted, for years, to build a nice 1:32 or 1:35 Model T, etc. which would be r/c...but my problem is that the front suspension of such a model would need to be scratch built since it shows (details) and would have to be made from metal. But also, am I more interested in running trains or running r/c cars? Hmmm... Woodie |
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Giles Registered
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I wasn't aware you had a ban affecting such useful bits as Davies T's receivers.... most unfortunate.... However, a van, or box trailer would easily contain a more fonventional aircraft type receiver- you just wouldn't get the flat-bed that is otherwise possible. I'm certainly busy with work for a while, but never say never, producing one-offs - but they couldn't be cheap, unfortunately. |
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Lee B Registered
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Giles wrote: I wasn't aware you had a ban affecting such useful bits as Davies T's receivers.... most unfortunate....
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davecttr Registered
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What Deltang products are banned? I see you can buy the Rx 60etc series and Tx's in the US. |
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Rod Hutchinson Registered
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The On30 guy stocks Deltang in the USA http://www.on30guy.com |
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Giles Registered
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I was just going from Woodies post - so great if they're available....! That ambulance thing looks eminently suitable. You'd get batteries that would last all week in that.... Last edited on Thu Mar 23rd, 2017 12:07 am by Giles |
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Rod Hutchinson Registered
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Hi Giles, my reponse was to Woodies post not yours. I already new they were available. I am a FB friend with On30 guy and quite familiar with his web site. But fake news permeates everywhere it seems. BTW I bought a Blade MSLP4DSM Tx. Just need to obtain some RX45s from Andy at Micron. |
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Giles Registered
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No problem at All! In this day and age one really doesn't know... It's all very interesting! (And informative) |
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Giles Registered
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Re your TX - good. If you find its configured to the wrong 'mode', you may find a switch hidden under the blanking plug in the centre. (Mode 1 / Mode 2) Best, Giles |
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Hi Giles  AWESOME ! work. Jerry was asking about the truck. Here it is I believe. Si. |
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davecttr Registered
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Have a look at this folks, post #97 for the video. I know how he does it, he has this miniaturisation machine, and reduces himself to 1 inch tall, so he is working with full size components! http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/96611-radio-controlled-road-vehicles-on-upper-benllech/page-4 |
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mwiz64 Registered
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The next step is to make those FPV and use some goggles. |
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Lee B Registered
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What I don't get is why someone doesn't think to offer converted vehicles in popular scales (O and HO for example, as I doubt you'd be able to do this in N) that are drivable like this. I don't have the technical skills to do that work myself but I sure would buy a vehicle in O scale (assuming it fit in my layout's concept) and would be willing to pay a few extra bucks for something that works well, out of the box. |
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Giles Registered
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I've been making a couple of tipper lorries in 1:43 https://youtu.be/9O2wsk2jfM4 But also a variety of 1:76 scale vehicles, all with clear load-beds, using 6mm diameter gearmotors (And Deltang Rx41). https://youtu.be/XXKtGtv4Osc A fully working 1:43 radio controlled forklift, with mast tilt and differential, was completed last year. https://youtu.be/PjuPWFnlrPw Best regards Giles |
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