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 Posted: Mon Feb 27th, 2012 06:44 pm
   
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W C Greene wrote: Wow, am I glad that I don't need to clean track or wheels any more! Take care guys...

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Do you no longer have a railway of any sort or rolling stock.?

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 Posted: Mon Feb 27th, 2012 07:57 pm
   
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Roy-I guess I shold explain...I run radio conmtrol with onboard batteries. No wires to track! Check out our r/c forum here on Freerails if you are interested. You can see my stuff in the narrow gauge forum-Mogollon Railway. Hope I didn't upset you!

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 Posted: Tue Feb 28th, 2012 01:26 am
   
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No Woddie you didn't upset me at all. If you take a look at my profile you'll see what I do for a living and only once or twice in the last ten years have I become upset and then due to an assault. In fact it's my mistake for not taking into account those with battery radio control garden railways. So I hope I didn't offend you.
Do you think I should start my own thread on my garden railway?.



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 Posted: Tue Feb 28th, 2012 09:55 am
   
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Yes, start a thread. We encourage everybody to "do their own thing" whenever possible. There are quite a few folks here who would love to see others' outdoor lines. And yes, my layout is outside. I may be in a larger scale, but my track gauge is 16.5MM.

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 Posted: Tue Feb 28th, 2012 11:02 am
   
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Awesome stuff. I love the steam engine.
I'm an outdoor planker too. i know exactly what you are talking about when you describe the know-it-alls. They don't even know how much fun it is.



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 Posted: Tue Feb 28th, 2012 05:21 pm
   
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Hi TGB I know you from Selby Garden Railway Forum and I found this forum in looking for OO/HO garden railways in Australia.

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 Posted: Wed Mar 7th, 2012 06:40 am
   
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I started out with no real idea of what was going to be required to build a layout in the garden, but here are the things I considered.

First and foremost, the layout was to be HO scale, operating with DCC, and all locos to have sound. Why HO? I already had an N scale layout but my 60 year old eyes were struggling with the small size, and my fingers were beginning to feel like bananas when I handled anything, so a step up in size was necessary. I wanted broad curves, and long trains, so outside was the only place I was going to get them. Why HO? I considered the usual outdoor sizes but decided anything larger than HO would tend to compromise the look I was after.

My property has a fall of over 6' from side to side and a fall of around 20' from front to rear. Whichever way I looked at things the slope was way too large for a layout at ground level, so I was looking at a plank type layout.

Next consideration was how to store trains after each session, and the obvious answer was in my garage, where they would be out of the weather. Here in Adelaide, South Australia, we can have a week of temperatures in excess of 40 C (105 F) in summer,  and at the other end of the scale, near freezing daytime temps  along with LOTS of rain – around 500mm (20 inches) per year with most falling in the 3-4 months of winter.

I don’t need this garden layout to be much more than a couple of loops for continuous running. I just want to kick back with a beer and watch trains run. I can always go inside and operate my switching layout if I want to get involved.

So, the basic idea came down to a couple of loops, with several crossovers for convenience, with both loops going through the garage with switches to the storage tracks. Height of storage tracks was set at 5’ which meant that the track at the opposite end of the property would be around 18” below the natural ground level.

Obviously, most of the track would be laid on a structure above the ground, but I had 2 options for the portion below ground level. A tunnel was the most obvious. The length of the tunnel would mean great difficulties if I had a derailment or cars became uncoupled inside. Also, nasties like lizards, mice or spiders like the dark of a tunnel so I discarded this option. The second option was to create a large cutting for this portion of track, which has turned out to be quite a lot harder to construct than I first thought.

The final design was basically two loops, with around 60% of the loops running side by side and representing a dual mainline. The outer loop turns away and heads out to the highest point of the garden. It makes a 180 degree turn (it’s a 5’ diameter – the tightest turn I have) travelling through the cutting before heading back to meet the inner loop again. Crossovers at several points mean I can run trains over any track, or set up for a continuous run twice as long as usual. The inner loop is around 100’ long, the outer loop (when completed) will be around 150’ long.

And lastly, the layout would represent the South Australian Railways that I remember from my childhood years and into my early teens.  This means mostly 1st generation diesels, a couple of Mikado and Mountain type steam locos, and “Bluebird” rail cars. Trains of this era consisted mostly of boxcars, open wagons, and flat cars. Often they were old 4 wheel wagons, but this era ushered in larger bogie style freight cars, container trains (initially loaded into 50’ gondolas and later 60’ flatcars) No SAR layout would be complete without “The Overland” an interstate express train running between Adelaide and Melbourne in Victoria. I like the look of the green & cream painted heavyweight passenger  coaches of the early part of the 20th century, so a short train of these will get the occasional run as a tourist train being hauled by a steam loco. I will also run long rakes of twin hopper coal wagons, to represent trains that could be seen in the northern part of South Australia.

Thanks for reading this far, next time I will detail my adventures building the track.

TREV




Loco 948 hauling a coal train




Bluebird rail cars




A tourist train crossing what will be the Murray River, South Australia's largest waterway

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 Posted: Mon Apr 9th, 2012 01:27 pm
   
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So I have a question. Those red diesels, are they Alco's?

They look a lot like american diesels from the 50/60's.

Funny you are on the selby site and here. I have run into a lot of the same people all over the place on the web. I hadn't seen your pics you posted here on the Selby site so I didn't make the connection at first.



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 Posted: Tue Apr 10th, 2012 06:39 am
   
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Good spotting, some of the diesels are pretty much pure ALCO.

South Australia began using diesels in the mid 1950's with the 900 class loco,s. These were bodies based on the American PA1 diesels, but fitted with English sourced diesel engines. These were the first mainline diesels in Aust.




Next up was the 930 class, introduced late 50's with another US based body, but this time with ALCO V12 251 motors driving the electrics. Early versions were single cabs, but later vesions, (No. 940 onwards) had an extra cab squeezed into the opposite end for running in either orientation.




This loco is fitted with a loksound V4 decoder, and sounds almost as good asI remember the originals. I used to love hearing 2 or 3 hauling a heavy goods train through the Adelaide hills.

TREV

 


 



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 Posted: Tue Apr 10th, 2012 01:30 pm
   
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topcat2000 wrote:


I don’t need this garden layout to be much more than a couple of loops for continuous running. I just want to kick back with a beer and watch trains run.


he he that's what I do too.

Your Alco diesels look great. That 930 is a exceptional model. Is it plastic RTR?

I know what you mean about scale. I was mostly N scale over the last 20 years. Going outdoors and having trains travel far into the distance is something you just can't get indoors.

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