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Hi,

I am building a HO scale railway in my garden. All the experts told me it could not be done - Too hard, too many problems, too small for outdoors, and so on and so on...

When someone tells me it is impossible, I am pig-headed enoigh to go ahead anyway.

Score so far  Trev 1  Experts NIL

It does not get much better than this -




or this




or even this





Please feel free to comment or make suggestions - all comments will be gratefully received. if you think I have something to offer, please ask. My knowledge is sometimes limited but my experience must be worth a little.

A couple of videos are available at this link

http://s1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee466/trevorclark/

 

Thank you for reading this far

 

TREV

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Really nice, Trev. I love your lighting! Those "experts" who say something can't be done-can't do anything themselves. Sort of "skill envy". Keep on runnin'.

Woodie

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Best backdrop in the world!


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SAR Para Gardens Division The layout is DCC controlled and all locos are sound equipped. I have a few issues with track cleanliness and dirty wheels. I have been reading about different oils (transmission fluid for example) being wiped onto the track, to improve electrical contact, but my opinion is that the oil will attract dust and dirt, thus adding to my problems. Does anyone have a comment about this?  

TREV 

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Trev.

Folks down this way use a CRC product 2-26. It is a pressure pack that improves electrical properties.

Spray lightly onto a cork sanding block and spread onto the tracks, leave overnight then wipe with a NEW CLEAN sanding block. (No 2-26)

Indoors its good for several months

The down side is it will transfer to the wheels, just make sure when you wipe  with the clean cork block you remove most of the 2-26

I have mates that love it and others who hate it.  Give it a try and make up your own mind.

Don

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Hi Don, thanks for the tip.

TREV

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Crc26. HUGE difference.

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I've been using the large cleaning pads by LGB meant for G scale although I have used 'Iso Col rubbing alcohol in a CMX track cleaner and will soon try neat acetone which I bought from a chemist. I would not apply 'Zip' or other fluids to the rails as it only attracts more dirt. The neat acetone is an aggressive solvent and should evaporate quickly. 

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Thanks Roy, I have been using isocol on the loco wheels, with good results, and I will try iy out on the rail as well 

Thanks 

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Wow, am I glad that I don't need to clean track or wheels any more! Take care guys...

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W C Greene wrote: Wow, am I glad that I don't need to clean track or wheels any more! Take care guys...

Woodie
Do you no longer have a railway of any sort or rolling stock.?

Roy.

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Roy-I guess I shold explain...I run radio conmtrol with onboard batteries. No wires to track! Check out our r/c forum here on Freerails if you are interested. You can see my stuff in the narrow gauge forum-Mogollon Railway. Hope I didn't upset you!

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No Woddie you didn't upset me at all. If you take a look at my profile you'll see what I do for a living and only once or twice in the last ten years have I become upset and then due to an assault. In fact it's my mistake for not taking into account those with battery radio control garden railways. So I hope I didn't offend you.
Do you think I should start my own thread on my garden railway?.

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Yes, start a thread. We encourage everybody to "do their own thing" whenever possible. There are quite a few folks here who would love to see others' outdoor lines. And yes, my layout is outside. I may be in a larger scale, but my track gauge is 16.5MM.

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Awesome stuff. I love the steam engine.
I'm an outdoor planker too. i know exactly what you are talking about when you describe the know-it-alls. They don't even know how much fun it is.

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Hi TGB I know you from Selby Garden Railway Forum and I found this forum in looking for OO/HO garden railways in Australia.

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SOUTH AUSTRALIAN RAILWAYS
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I started out with no real idea of what was going to be required to build a layout in the garden, but here are the things I considered.

First and foremost, the layout was to be HO scale, operating with DCC, and all locos to have sound. Why HO? I already had an N scale layout but my 60 year old eyes were struggling with the small size, and my fingers were beginning to feel like bananas when I handled anything, so a step up in size was necessary. I wanted broad curves, and long trains, so outside was the only place I was going to get them. Why HO? I considered the usual outdoor sizes but decided anything larger than HO would tend to compromise the look I was after.

My property has a fall of over 6' from side to side and a fall of around 20' from front to rear. Whichever way I looked at things the slope was way too large for a layout at ground level, so I was looking at a plank type layout.

Next consideration was how to store trains after each session, and the obvious answer was in my garage, where they would be out of the weather. Here in Adelaide, South Australia, we can have a week of temperatures in excess of 40 C (105 F) in summer,  and at the other end of the scale, near freezing daytime temps  along with LOTS of rain – around 500mm (20 inches) per year with most falling in the 3-4 months of winter.

I don’t need this garden layout to be much more than a couple of loops for continuous running. I just want to kick back with a beer and watch trains run. I can always go inside and operate my switching layout if I want to get involved.

So, the basic idea came down to a couple of loops, with several crossovers for convenience, with both loops going through the garage with switches to the storage tracks. Height of storage tracks was set at 5’ which meant that the track at the opposite end of the property would be around 18” below the natural ground level.

Obviously, most of the track would be laid on a structure above the ground, but I had 2 options for the portion below ground level. A tunnel was the most obvious. The length of the tunnel would mean great difficulties if I had a derailment or cars became uncoupled inside. Also, nasties like lizards, mice or spiders like the dark of a tunnel so I discarded this option. The second option was to create a large cutting for this portion of track, which has turned out to be quite a lot harder to construct than I first thought.

The final design was basically two loops, with around 60% of the loops running side by side and representing a dual mainline. The outer loop turns away and heads out to the highest point of the garden. It makes a 180 degree turn (it’s a 5’ diameter – the tightest turn I have) travelling through the cutting before heading back to meet the inner loop again. Crossovers at several points mean I can run trains over any track, or set up for a continuous run twice as long as usual. The inner loop is around 100’ long, the outer loop (when completed) will be around 150’ long.

And lastly, the layout would represent the South Australian Railways that I remember from my childhood years and into my early teens.  This means mostly 1st generation diesels, a couple of Mikado and Mountain type steam locos, and “Bluebird” rail cars. Trains of this era consisted mostly of boxcars, open wagons, and flat cars. Often they were old 4 wheel wagons, but this era ushered in larger bogie style freight cars, container trains (initially loaded into 50’ gondolas and later 60’ flatcars) No SAR layout would be complete without “The Overland” an interstate express train running between Adelaide and Melbourne in Victoria. I like the look of the green & cream painted heavyweight passenger  coaches of the early part of the 20th century, so a short train of these will get the occasional run as a tourist train being hauled by a steam loco. I will also run long rakes of twin hopper coal wagons, to represent trains that could be seen in the northern part of South Australia.

Thanks for reading this far, next time I will detail my adventures building the track.

TREV




Loco 948 hauling a coal train




Bluebird rail cars




A tourist train crossing what will be the Murray River, South Australia's largest waterway

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So I have a question. Those red diesels, are they Alco's?

They look a lot like american diesels from the 50/60's.

Funny you are on the selby site and here. I have run into a lot of the same people all over the place on the web. I hadn't seen your pics you posted here on the Selby site so I didn't make the connection at first.

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Good spotting, some of the diesels are pretty much pure ALCO.

South Australia began using diesels in the mid 1950's with the 900 class loco,s. These were bodies based on the American PA1 diesels, but fitted with English sourced diesel engines. These were the first mainline diesels in Aust.




Next up was the 930 class, introduced late 50's with another US based body, but this time with ALCO V12 251 motors driving the electrics. Early versions were single cabs, but later vesions, (No. 940 onwards) had an extra cab squeezed into the opposite end for running in either orientation.




This loco is fitted with a loksound V4 decoder, and sounds almost as good asI remember the originals. I used to love hearing 2 or 3 hauling a heavy goods train through the Adelaide hills.

TREV

 


 

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topcat2000 wrote:


I don’t need this garden layout to be much more than a couple of loops for continuous running. I just want to kick back with a beer and watch trains run.


he he that's what I do too.

Your Alco diesels look great. That 930 is a exceptional model. Is it plastic RTR?

I know what you mean about scale. I was mostly N scale over the last 20 years. Going outdoors and having trains travel far into the distance is something you just can't get indoors.

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The 930 is plastic RTR, but I had a loksounddecoder fitted and sound matched to an Alco. Supplied by Trainarama here in Aust, but manufactured in China. It needs a better speaker set up, but all in all, is pretty good looking and an exceptional runner. TREV

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SOUTH AUSTRALIAN RAILWAYS
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For those who came in late – My layout is basically two tracks around my garden, the inner track about  100 feet (32 metres) long, and the outer track, which is partially complete, will be around 150 feet (45 Metres) long. Both tracks run through my garage, with switches to a 6 track storage area. Each storage track is around 16 feet (5 M) long.

Construction started around 18 months ago, in my garage, with a shelf across the back and another shelf with storage tracks down the side wall. The shelf is around 5 feet above the floor. I have currently around 100 pieces of rolling stock  -  box cars, flat cars, hoppers, passenger coaches etc, and these are left on the  sidings when not in use. Locos get taken inside my house when not being used, and kept on an indoor switching layout I have in a spare bedroom. The layout is controlled by a DCC system from NCE, and most locos have been fitted with sound decoders.

After negotiation with the Minister of Finance and Properties, I was allocated an area around 60 feet long and 20 feet wide for the railway. This area slopes in two directions with the South East corner roughly 6 feet higher than the North West corner.

Construction   I built elevated platforms from the garage, across to an old playhouse the kids used when they were quite young, and then into the garden proper. Because of the slope on my land, the platform eventually reaches ground level. Here the inner track swings away, crosses a bridge, and as the land continues to fall away, runs on a platform again, returning to the garage, thus completing the inner loop.

The outer loop continues on into a deep cutting, turning through 180 degrees, before winding its way back to rejoin the inner loop, and also return to the garage storage area.

To build the platform I used a timber product that had been treated with an arsenic based chemical preservative, that here in Aust we call “perma-pine”. This is a virtually rot proof and vermin proof soft timber, that is very easy to work with. I drove a stake about 12-18 inches into the ground, then bolted a cross support to the top of each stake. Once all  the stakes were in place and levelled up, I began to fix the track base  to the top of the  the cross support. In parts I used oregon planking about 10 foot long, 5 inches wide and half inch thick. In other places, where I needed curved sections of track, I cut the base from marine ply. All the timber and ply was then given two coats of exterior paint.

I decided on a cutting rather than a tunnel, for the part of the track below ground level. Because of the length involved, a tunnel would make rescuing stranded or derailed trains difficult, but more importantly to me, a tunnel would be haven for  spiders particularly, but also a number of other little nasties. We have a couple of spiders here that can inflict pretty nasty bites, that can occasionally cause deaths, so you can probably see why a tunnel did not have a lot of attraction to me.

I had to dig a trench up to a foot deep to ensure the track in the cutting remained close to flat and level with the rest of the layout. The next stage was to line the cutting with concrete to prevent any landslides or erosion of the cutting walls. This was a lot easier said than done. It took me several weekends to get this part completed. I badly under estimated the amount of cement I would need, and how hard it would be to stop the wet cement running down the sides into the bottom of the trench. I eventually had to resort to some timber form-work, using Masonite sheeting to get the job done. More oregan timber planks were cut to fit the bottom of the cutting, and also mounted to perma-pine stakes driven in to the ground. I wanted to keep the planks just above the new ground level, to prevent problems with damp timber, but also give my self a little space beneath for the track wiring to be run out of sight.

So far, the inner track has been laid, along with around half of the outer track. I have stopped construction at this stage, because the oregan planking has begun to warp, and cause problems  with reliable running of trains.

I have enough good track laid, that I can sit back and watch the trains go by, while I have another beer. Unfortunately, that just means that the motivation to solve my problems is not quite as acute as if I had no trains running at all.

I do have a couple of ideas, and I will detail them in my next post.

TREV

 

Here is a couple of shots of my storage area





A stretch of plank ready for track




 

Another section of plank, this time with a marine ply top.




First weekend working on the cutting





This shot was taken during the second weekend working in the cut



And here is a low shot of the completed effort




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Yes I found out that even rot proof timber needs a coat of paint or three to survive outside. Mine has been treated with copper chrome arsenate and whilst it survived for a couple of years, once the rain and sun got to it the whole lot warped. Here we have sulpher crested cockatoos and they like to peck at the track work if no ones around. They would stand on the track an attempt to pull the track bonds off with their beaks. They didn't succeed in pulling the track bonds off but did rip the rails out of the plastic chairs. So I had to put in new short lengths of rails at frequent intervals.
Now I have hinged covers and the cocky problem is a thing of the past.

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Yep, we have grackels (mechanical birds) here and they just love to eat the mulberries on the trees and poop all over everything...purple poop! I am thinking about getting a falcon to live here, that would keep the buggers away!

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A former next door neighbour used to have a Mulberry tree and the Mynar birds used to eat the fruit and would then sit on their washing line and attempt to dye the washed whites purple.

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I intended to do some more construction work on the SAR garden layout this afternoon, but the day was so nice I decided to do some railfanning instead.

First up was this coal train

http://s1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee466/trevorclark/?action=view&current=P4292655.mp4

Then I spotted a heritage train rolling across the plains in the distance

http://s1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee466/trevorclark/?action=view&current=P4292665.mp4

A quick dash to the top of the Para Gorge and I was able to catch up with 702

http://s1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee466/trevorclark/?action=view&current=P4292660.mp4

and then another quick run to the tourist station, just in time to see the steam loco, pulling away from the station on its return trip

http://s1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee466/trevorclark/?action=view&current=P4292658.mp4

Much better than working, time I think for a beer

TREV

 

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W C Greene wrote:
Yep, we have grackels (mechanical birds) here and they just love to eat the mulberries on the trees and poop all over everything...purple poop! I am thinking about getting a falcon to live here, that would keep the buggers away!

Woodie


Woodie,
When your falcon gets rid of your grackels send him out here to Caddo Mills to get rid of mine. Sometimes it resembles Hitchcock's "The Birds" out here.
Roger

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Roger-I mentioned getting a falcon to a fellow the other day and he asked how an old Ford would get rid of the birds! LOL

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Woodie,
They would all fall off their perches laughing.
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those grackles were the noisest birds next to parrots i have seen

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This spring has brought back a red headed woodpecker. I do like the wood peckers. Yesterday I spotted sparrows dining on my lettuce plants, but they were so cute I let them have what little bit they eat.

The video's look great. Really enjoyed the coal train.

Your storage yard sounds perfect, i still suffer from having to take things off the track after each session. Putting it on the track isn't a hassle, but when you've got more trains than layout sitting on a table top the end of session wrapping isn't half as fun.

Note to self: must get a shed and add a 50" line to the back yard.

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A few months ago I discovered that some of my base timber was starting to warp and cause running problems. I replaced a 25 foot stretch with a cement based fibre board used in the building industry here in Aust. "Blue board" is supposed to be waterproof, and highly resistant to warping or distortion.

After the wettest coldest, and windiest winter in many years, I managed to get outside and run some trains today. The blue board has stood up really well, with absolutely no sign of twisting or warping at this stage. Early results suggest this might be the way to go forward.

I spent around 20 mins cleaning track and then had a couple of hours running trains. It was a good opportunity to test my new NCE wireless cab, which worked really well, with no problems, straight out of the box.

With summer getting closer, it is time to get out and start replacing the remaining timber base with Blue board, and laying the remainder of the second track.

Just because its winter outside, it doesn't mean all railroading stops. A new loco made its appearance recently, and had to be run-in. CLP14 is seen here in what was probably the best livery seen  on an Australian locomotive and was originally used primarily on interstate passenger trains.



Here is CLP14 running on the new support base that was laid just before winter

 




CLP14 again from another angle.

I'm looking forward to more progress in the next few months

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nice loco. Lots of detail too.

That cement board is a good idea. I may have to steal it. ;)

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Another beautiful spring day in this part of the world, and I should be working, but its more fun watching trains running in the garden.

Here is Loco 702 basking in the late afternoon sun, waiting for its next assignment.




And a couple of videos of trains running -

http://s1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee466/trevorclark/?action=view&current=Longfreight.mp4

http://s1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee466/trevorclark/?action=view&current=Coalscurves.mp4

Hope you enjoy them

TREV

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I like that coal train. I noticed the fabric draped on the layout. Is that all you are doing with the fabric or will it get a layer of plaster or who knows what to make it solid?

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Very cool, I love running trains outside. And the lighting for photos is the best ever! More photos please...

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I guess you would call me a minimalistic type of modeller. I have no intention of making this into a work of art, like most of the layouts I see on this site and other forums. My imagination will fill in the missing details.

Once the track is completed, I will paint the supporting base boards, and tidy up the cloth sides and make it all look neat and tidy, but that's about all. Lots of small garden plants, bushes and shrubs will eventually be planted to hide some of the sides and supporting structure. I do not have the skills, nor the desire to learn them, to do much more than that, at this stage of my life.

I came to the hobby late in life - I was in my late 40's before accumulating the three most important items necessary to make a start - disposable income, available space, and a wife who was supportive of my aims. Whilst I get  a lot of joy from watching trains running, and I spend some time photographing the real thing, motor racing, watching the footy and bush walking, also demand some of my spare time.

TREV

 

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topcat2000 wrote:
I guess you would call me a minimalistic type of modeller. I have no intention of making this into a work of art, like most of the layouts I see on this site and other forums. My imagination will fill in the missing details.

Once the track is completed, I will paint the supporting base boards, and tidy up the cloth sides and make it all look neat and tidy, but that's about all. Lots of small garden plants, bushes and shrubs will eventually be planted to hide some of the sides and supporting structure. I do not have the skills, nor the desire to learn them, to do much more than that, at this stage of my life.

I came to the hobby late in life - I was in my late 40's before accumulating the three most important items necessary to make a start - disposable income, available space, and a wife who was supportive of my aims. Whilst I get  a lot of joy from watching trains running, and I spend some time photographing the real thing, motor racing, watching the footy and bush walking, also demand some of my spare time.

TREV

 



I've taken the same approach. I can model things well, but I find I am too impatient for it. But I love to watch trains roll on my mainlines.

Keep the pictures coming, I enjoy seeing your progress.

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BREAKING NEWS

A major derailment occurred today when a train collided with a car stuck on a level crossing. The locomotive overturned and a number of gondolas were derailed as a result. A local resident photographed the train moments before the collision, and then followed up with this exclusive photo report.


Moments before the collision....

...and immediately afterwards




The wreck train was on its way within a short time..










... and was soon hard at work.












What a great opportunity to show off my newly aquired wreck train. Oh well,enough joking around, time to get back to work.

TREV  ;)


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Must have been an O scale auto to cause that much damage!


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Well... how times fly when you are having fun. It's been over 12 months since I last posted, so time for a quick update.

Due to (here in Australia) a very hot summer, and then a very wet winter not much has happened, but for those who have ever contemplated HO scale outdoors, here is the good news. It took just 15 mins to get 30 metres of track ready to run trains. All I needed to do was give the rails a buff over with a hand held Peco track cleaner (it looks a bit like a pencil eraser), and move some weeds from overhanging the track.

The new sections that had been re built with "blue board" as a base were totally unmoved by the last 12 months weather, so this is the way forward for me.

I originally felt a bit like an explorer going outdoors with HO scale (Almost everyone who I spoke to said it would not work,) so I get a lot of satisfaction seeing trains running with such a small amount effort.

My intentions this spring / summer will be to rebuild the remainder of the base with "blue board", and then maybe complete the second loop.

Here are a couple of videos of todays running.

http://s1229.photobucket.com/user/trevorclark/media/PB175767_zps6584127c.mp4.html

http://s1229.photobucket.com/user/trevorclark/media/PB175768_zps26c81efd.mp4.html


Both vids show loco 946 hauling a string of open gondolas. The wagons are either 40' OB class bogie wagons or O class two axle wagons. These wagons were the mainstay of freight during the 60's 70's and into the 80's here in South Australia

Hope you enjoy
TREV

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Hi Tony M from Ipswich QLD and from what I have seen is pure awesome, I too am going HO scale garden railway now I know it an be done.

I model both Aussie and US trains and some British trains, aiming more at US trains Union Pacific

My HO scale garden railway will be modelled on the Tehachapi loop as my pergola floor isn't level with the car port floor by 9 inches. My layout won't be permanently set up be like a module layout, mainly interested in running long trains, longer the better.

The layout will go out into the yard and at a latter stage down the side of the house, first stage 53ft by 24ft.

Most of my Aussie locos are NR's with older locos and I have mainly UP AC/4400 locos.

Modelling The DD's locos got one DD40 UP and have scratch built a DD35/B loco which I am working on, both have dual motors. Also have Those Amtrak super liners, want to model the Amtrak Auto train.
Got one DD40AX centennial loco pained up in UP colours with the running number 6936 a Bachmann loco.

Also modelling the Boeing 737 fuselages on 89ft flat wagons nearly got one fuselage finished builtbfrom scratch.

NO idea on how to add pics to the posts, once I find out will keep everyone informed on my progress.

Tony.

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Hi Tony, Welcome to the forum. I will be very pleased if my modest effort can give you some inspiration. Most people I talk to say HO outside is not viable, but for me, things like wide turns, and long trains disappearing into the distance more than make the effort worthwhile.

A couple of tips for you before you get too much track laid -
1)I no longer have turnouts out in the weather, as they become unreliable quite quickly
2)You should ensure EVERY piece of rail has a direct connection to your power buss.

Ignore both tips if you are planning to use something other than track power to run your loco's

TREV

PS I have sent a PM with my direct email if you need it

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Hi Trev,

Many thanks will chat to you later, as I said my HO outdoor layout won't be a permanent set up so wont have those issues with the points and only one point outside .

Sill will have the bus wiring like on a proper module layout and set up as block wiring to run more than one DC train .

WE have something in common I too started late in the hobby, 1995 40 was the year,around40. Bought Austrains NR95 to remember the beginning.

Three quartes of the spiral deck is cut out now and looks good screwed together, good join fit too.

Still can't figure out how to put pics on the posts.

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Many thanks Bernd for helping me out by finding the forum gallery, I have uploaded all the old layout pics from Photo Bucket, not an easy task but worth it in the end.

Have all the other threads to go through before I delete Photo Bucket.

Many thanks love this forum. Tony

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I am starting to get the idea of posting pics on the forum, hit the wrong button to add the info.

Coming along nicely with my Tehachapi loop version outdoor layout. I was hopping to have the top track on the tunnel 12 inches, but not to be it is 9 inches high.

The spiral grade is working out to be 3/8inches a foot, worked out well as the spiral length it 24ft on a 7ft diameter radius double track.

Where the pergola post is nearest to the grass may have to add in another couple of feet for tunnel 9 to get it right.



The Tehachapi loop track design has been redesigned and mover closer to the house now


Herb and Bernd let me know if the pics are too big.

Tony on a high

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Not happy with photobucket, I deleted the pics in my photobucket folder to resize them and that also deleted the pics on my post on the forum, any ideas to sort this problem out .

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Hi Tony,
For each affected message with missing photos, the easy way is to click the EDIT button and fix each affected message one at a time.
Delete what is between the [img][/img] markers and paste in the new link to your revised photo between these two markers.
Do this for each missing photo.
PREVIEW the message to check that your revised photos are in the right place/order.
Save the message.
Do this for each message with missing photos and you are done. Your revised photos should them magically appear in the right spots.

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Hi John,

Many thanks for the advice on editing the pics on the post, have got the pics back.

Have discovered you can add as many pics as you like on each post with the edit button, pure magic.

I didn't know you could do it that way till now.

Even change the typing too and check on preview.

What scale trains are you into garden railway too.

Many thanks from Tony M

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Good luck with running outdoors. Been done may times before in 16.5mm gauge so it definitely can work. Anyone who told you it couldn't is definitely not an expert.

However I abandoned thoughts of using HO outdoors primarily because of my experience with the trains being blown onto the ground with passing thermals. I went to O gauge and so far they have stayed on the track.
Even in O gauge I use some oil to improve reliability with small locos. The tradeoff as always is a bit more wheel cleaning.

The PA's look great dressed up as SAR 900's.

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Thanks Bob I am not going to have that issue as My garden railway is going to set up as a module layout is.

The last couple of days I have been doing more work on the Tehachapi Loop tunnel 9 module, all I need to do now is close in the sides. Can nail down the track now and do the bus wiring before that happens.

In that spiral there is five sections that will be bolted or screwed together, same as a module layout plug and play.

That bottom board that is on the pavers I can actually slide it in and out from the tunnel, working out well






Bernd and Herb am I able to edit all the post pics as I want to get rid of the photo Bucket and Image Shank pics now I have discovered the forum gallery where you can download pics an load them onto the posts.

Wonder how many other members know they can do the loading on pics this way, a bit of work, I have plenty of time and a good way to waste time where I can't work on the layout out.

On a high Tony.

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Here is the latest on the Tehachapi loop tunnel 9 module ready to lay the track and do the bus wiring.

My clubs train coming up this weekend wont get back to the module till after the weekend now.

Haven't worked out what I will use to fill in the sides if I go for chicken wire and rag cloth dipped in plaster or that hobby green matting you can by will check it out at the train show.







Some more pics changed over, getting the hang of it once I can get into the my gallery, sometime have trouble must be windows 8.

Tony

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The pics looks so good with the locos, I can't wait for the first train to roll through tunnel nine.
Here is an update on the Tehachapi loop tunnel 9 ready to close in top of the cutting



The two NR class locos are Aussie and the same HP as the Dash 9's and AC/4400 class, 4,000HP.







Using speaker plugs is a great idea, plug and play and I use the 25way computer plugs for the signals and points.



Finely getting the idea with loading pics onto the form but having an issue getting onto the forum gallery.
When I finely managed to get on the gallery I had to leave it open and edit the pics one by one by sending the post and having to reopen it on every pic.

I think the issue is windows 8 as I can access the my gallery on the iPad, didn't try to copy and paste on the iPad will try my sons computer he has windows 7

Tony :doh::us:

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The main part of Tehachapi loop is finished ready to lay the track. Might move onto the top section track base heading to tunnel 10 and get it out the way.

have already cut the ply deck, just have to cut all the up rights, will be a challenge as the pergola floor rises up to the car port.



The jig I made is 42inches long and drop is 1/5/16 every three and half feet or 3/8 inches every foot drop









http://www.freerails.com/gallery/5681/5681_151906_410000000.jpg



The last pic I the finished grade on the spiral, now the good news I have got around the problem with trying to get onto the gallery with lots of trouble. I decided to save the link with the gallery on it and to my surprise it worked.

I wonder if I could leave the gallery link in my favourites
will see if I can access it once I sign out of the forum.

Does anyone know how to work out grades, the spice is 23feet in length and 9 inches high at the tunnel, I have a board with a piece of wood at one end for the height drop is 1&5/16inches and board is 42 inches, dropping down 3/8" a foot, would that be 3 percent grade????

Tony

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Here is at last is my track plan of the Tehachapi loop layout and have drawn a bigger sale of my station modules.







Some good news when I sign out so does the link of gallery, there has being big changes to the layout, new track plan design, that will come later on the post.

I am just tiding up the post so I can delete Photo Bucket and Image Shank.

Tony on a high

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My track plan for platforms 1 to 5 is very close to Sydney Central, the big job is working out where the block will go.

I am happy with the out come so far, since I have changed the track and module plan I will leave the old pics of the station complex as is.

Actually the new track plan into platforms 1 to 5 is the same, modules will be a different design, in the first two pics


IN the last three pics is how I mark out the big curves with a beam compass, can mark out to 7 feet in diameter.



The last pic is the pointer end and I made up a base to get the clamps out the way, work well now.

You wouldn't believe what the door has come off , a commode and a bed pan was put inside . The oldies used them the days of the out side of the outside toilet, saved them going out at night. The commode is very old belong to my grand mother and I am using it for a printer table now














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Here is the latest on the track and points on the first module coming into the station platforms.


The double track in the middle is the main line which with the access of the double slip cross over from left track to right is to an island platform. And the out side double track will have another platform on the right hand track.


The next set of three pics are of track heading into platform one to four Sydney Central, five more modules to modify for the station complex.

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Here is a you tube of Sydney Central that motivated me into modelling Sydney Central platforms one to four where the Indian Pacific pulls into, some times platform one.

Peak times the train plit to fit the passenger car on two platforms being 26 cars long, off peak has 16 passenger cars the size of my IP with two NR locos

















Stuffed up the you tube link will have to find it again and load the link on.

Just about finished changing the pics from photo bucket to the forum gallery pics only got more page to compete, no more losing pics from photo bucket.

Tony

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Looks like I have finely worked out how to post pics without using Photo bucket.

Can I remember to do it again, bingo on a high, thanks Herb I think you suggested this way a while back.

I discovered the browser at the bottom for attachments.

Who said Boeing 737 did low level flying they did, the 737 starts its life out by being transported by rail from Wichita Kanas to Seattle Washington.

I used cardboard to construct the 737 in 87 scale since you can't buy a model in that scale and didn't want to cut up a kit

The flat wagon is a 89 foot and the 737 is 700 series fuselage

I am going to start another thread now on the 737, this was just a test :2t::rah::glad::bow::s:

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Hi, my Tehachapi loop module tunnel is coming slowly, have been working on the second lower track module that slides into the tunnel module,, nearly there.


The unthinkable happened when I was screwing the right side ply on and sanding the top of the ply with an electric sander the plaster cutting on the right side came off.

Just as well in one full piece so I was able to glue the plaster back in with wood glue, before that happened I took the advantage and put in one bus wire, hidden now under the plaster, will have to drill a hole in the tunnel mouth for the wire on both sides.

It is taking too long working on the scenery, not going to be doing any scenery cutting on the other side of tunnel 9, will finish the scenery once all the track decking is finished and the first train is running.















I am just about there with the big marathon effort changing all the pics over to Free Rails gallery folder, just as well as I noticed in another folder I downloaded from image shank disappeared no idea what the pics were.

One post to change in this garden railway thread.

Tony

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I have found I have doubled up on some pics in posts further back so decided to put in new pics of the loop showing what I am aiming for in my version.

The first pic is of the cutting behind Tehachapi hill



The last pic is of the other side of tunnel 9 heading up the spiral, will be modelling what is in the pic on Google earth



Tony on a roll :Salute::glad:;)

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On a big high ,have redesigned the whole layout track plan, one of the biggest changes is the Tehachapi loop tunnel 9 modules. Have moved them down five feet which has made a big difference and the loop is closer to the back of the house too so I can model the TL as close as I can , the days have been a lot more pleasant than they have been so got a change to do some work on the layout.

Wow very excited as the new changed have worked out, now the big job in levelling the track decking an laying track to run the first train on the loop, cant wait.

Since the last posting on this thread I have discovered the forum gallery thanks to Bernd and posting my pics from the gallery, love this forum, pure awesome.












I am thinking of finding out where I can get some help to fast the construction on the layout, frees me up in doing all the other fiddly work on the layout track laying wiring and scenery.

What does everyone think, long way to go exciting stuff, Tony :2t::rah::bg::glad::wave:

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Going to be very impressive, Tony, If you can get some help, it certainly would be a benefit, considering the scope of the project.

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Hi Herb, thanks if I do bit every few days , I will get there and getting help will be a bonus, going to a meeting tonight will find out who to contact.

Where the loop is now, have done it in such away I don't need the loop set up to continue with the rest of the track doing the grade levels

How do you change the colour front I tried and hasn't worked, may be if I post the reply it may change.

Have to redesign the entrance track coming into the station platforms, for the better, if you google Google earth and put a search in on Sydney central station you will see what I mean. The new design will be the same, only modelling quarter of the platforms as there 28 all up will take up the whole of the pergola floor and there is lower platforms also.

How are you copping with that snap freeze again, we put a whinge it dropping down to -5c, if we got down to -45c we would be in trouble.

Happy modelling Tony

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Up the left end of the post reply in the top bar you will see a box with #000000 in it. Type some text and highlight it by dragging a left mouse click along it (or if you want to change everything that you have written hit Ctrl and A, as long as you have a courser mark on the page) Click on the #000000 box and you will see a selection of colors. Be aware that some  colors aren't dark enough to be readable with small type Change back to the zeros to go back to black.

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Hi Herb, darn windows 8 and the search engine again , I don't have the box with the 000000's in it just have a small box with numbers, which must be the front size and other box has the colour words in.
I can't seam to change the colours but managed to change to Bold and black not the navy I picked, did the Ctrl key with the A key, looks like I am limited . Yeah I tried that and only came up with the black colour, bugger, anymore ideas


My new track plan is coming along nicely, will have to convince my wife if I can move the car back a couple of feet, have cut back the station modules to 6ft and only 6 modules now, will have to redraw the track plan, looking good.

Tony :doh::bang:L:

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Moving along slowly, have worked out a way where I can recycle the old module legs, joining them together with a half inch dowel.







Pic 3 is the ply section bridging the gap between the station modules and car port side module which is 10ft and module is 7ft.





Pic 4 is on how I get away with having bigger curves on the corner modules, cut them on an angle, joins up like a big jig saw, works well.




Pic five is the length of the station modules 18feet to the end of the tape from the bridge module, 3 6ft modules, all up there will be 6 modules, a set off 3 more behind them.

Where the two pieces o wood are on the tape that marks the length of the station platforms,15ft long, fits 16 coaches.




Pic 6 is another angle taken of the tape .



Being pretty hot the last few days, being doing a couple of hours after tea, today is the longest day 22nd of Jan my end of the world, got a meeting to go to tonight, no work on the layout see what happens tomorrow night, rain coming in too.

Tony. :glad::bg::2t:

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Got a chance to get out and do some work on the layout yesterday, wasn't a nice day, was quite humid in the mid 30's,last afternoon wind blew in and made it more pleasant.

I wanted to setup 3 of the station modules to see how they went together with the entrance module and I set up the Indian Pacific, 16 coaches one car carrier and two NR class locos. The platform is 15 feet long and I am modelling East Perth Terminal WA where the IP pulls in from her journey from Sydney Central NSW.

The 3 modules and entrance module will be moved to the car port, will have shift the car down 4ft, front wheels are in the way.

When the modules are levelled at the other end of the modules will be about 12 inches high, much easier in taking pics.

I sure will need a wide angle lens for the camera to get up closer to the model.

There will be behind these modules another set of 3 to house Sydney Central Terminal 4 to platforms and the other three are through platforms, lots of work a head, be worth it in the end can't wait.

I am having trouble clicking on forum gallery, post reply and edit the pose adding the pics, any idea why I am having trouble tried five time to get into the galley.

Tony :doh:

Finely got onto the gallery, here I four pics









At last got the pics posted Tony on a roll;)

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Well under way with the new layout design and figured out where II am not on my knees nailing track down and wiring.

Also can now able to have the two curved modules up high as well to cut track on the module join.













I will put the other four pics on the next post, on a big high

Happy modelling from down under, Tony :glad::2t:

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The four final pics from yesterday's big effort pure awesome, continue on each module join.



Both tracks cut, room for improvement on the next module join.



The first wagon and coach on the layout.



Setting up the curved modules together went well, both of the tracks lined up perfectly and tested the coach through the track join with no derailing.

Next lot of pic I will post how I made the module joins up so well.



It has taken a long while to get this far, looking ford to running the first test loco and train, will only be on half of the layout, still have the main spiral to build and station module complex and the first bridge.

After finishing the car port end will move onto the bridge and then the station modules, only doing three of the station modules as there is 6 modules all up, going to be worth the effort in the end but layouts are never finished.

Happy modelling from down under, Tony.:2t::apl:

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Anything to save the back is worthwhile!

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Hi Herb, many thanks, that took a lot of thought and no way I was going to be on my knees getting sore knees, legs and back, will be doing the wiring the same way too.

The bus wiring will be plug and play same with the point motors and signals, oh yean I wont be using peco points motors and switches, will explain that in a later post, you will be shocked what I plan to use, may be a new post.

If you notice on the last pic the curve ply decking close to the end of the pavers there is a piece of ply sticking out, on the neck post will show how I did it, works perfectly and one screw holding the other end in place.

How the weather over your end of the world warming up, it is raining over here, not so cold, warm nights of 14 degrees,, be like this all week. Great time to get the track gang out and lay some track, aiming for June to run the test train.

Happy modelling from down under, Tony.

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Here are the pics of how I have worked out how to join the two curved modules together so the train will line up every time with out any movement.

Will be easy as well when setting up the layout, what I want is quick and easy bit like a jig saw, why it is taking me a quite a while building the layout can't be set up permanently.













After all this time I now have posting pic on the forum to a fine art now, pure awesome.

Going to be well worth the effort when the first train starts to roll on the layout with no derailments.

Happy modelling from don under, Tony

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Breaking news, my latest expenditure from European eBay is on it's way from Slovenia, I bought a Mehano TGV Thaly's 6 piece set.

Both locos are powered so I can add-on more coaches to the full set of 10, which will happen once I sell the duel tender Flying Scot, a friend wants it and is willing to pay big bucks for so I will ring to ell he can buy it.

I already have a second Flying Scot and have big plans to sort that loco out so she can pull 11+ coaches with out the second powered tenders, got everyone thinking.

I have been after a TGV set on it's own for ages and came across this bloke, he is very good, has wired up directional cab lights in DC format on both locos and the locos is DCC ready.

Going to be my favourite train once I get the other four coaches, pity can't get the café car.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV4umlzhhVo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZB41dj7TXww&feature=youtu.be

Layout is coming along more track work tomorrow, want have the track down ready for when the new train arrived in time for my birthday end of June.

Happy Modelling from down under, Tony.

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Good news is my Mehano Thaly's 6 piece set had arrived and also a month later bought the other 4 middle coaches to make up the full 10 piece awesome site indeed






I did do a video of the 10 piece Thaly's TGV but stuffed the video up trying to edit it, will have to wait now till September.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgSytDZvW98

Layout update have competed the curved modules and laid own track in the car port end, pics to follow.

At the moment I am on my other hobby woodturning turning a pedestal coffee table for a 60th birthday present, doing turning today.

Bugger had to buy a new lap top the other one failed, motherboard wouldn't boot up, this one is awesome ASUS went for a small screen 15inch, solid state hard drive.

Be hard buying more points and track for a while, just get the ones I need to complete the first track circuit.

Have started planning my station building, was going to get the Walther's Union station too hard to modify a clock tower.

Modelling Sydney Central terminus station building, have to cut back 7 windows to fit the building in the space I have, modelling the tram station as well, pics to follow.

That's the latest news from down under.

Tony :2t::wave:

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Hi all back into the layout construction, had a long hot summer, days are quite nice, perfect for working out under the pergola.

Have made a start on the spiral which is going out into back garden 9feet, have levelled the front corner module. It will be so easy once the spiral is built to set up, the curves will be coded and the curved decking be made the same way as the earlier curved track decking, join up every time with just two screws.

There will be a S bend curve involved as well on the lower deck of the spiral, using the decking from the old Tehachapi loop spiral.

aiming to run the first test train on the spiral end of June or hopefully the whole layout, can't wait.









First pic is of the spiral corner module and the piece of wood is the jig for the level so I can cut the legs as I work my way down.
The grade is quarter inch a foot on the spiral length of 24ft and height clearance 6 inches, I think works out to 2 percent grade, has a 7ft radius s well.

Will be starting work on the actual spiral this weekend hope to have it finished, also will have a S bend on the lower level, curve sections from the old Tehachapi loop.

Aiming to run the first test train end of June be good if the whole layout is finished, who knows.

Next posting will have the long waiting new track plan with a second section of the track and points coming into the station terminus platforms, 9 all up, and one through station.

Have started work on my station building modelled on the famous Sydney Central station building even will have working clocks, to be built in three sections, front and two sides.

Tony from down under on a high :glad::P:wave::2t:

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Hi Herb, you will be glad to see the end of winter and my end of the world heading into winter morning have that nip in the air too cool to have the morning cupper, 10 degrees .

Thanks, here are couple more pics of extending the layout in the car port area around the car instead of under it, about 20 extra 20ft.






At last the long waiting track plan of my layout with a enlarged track plan as well.
The layout is based on the GSR line from Sydney, Adelaide and Perth, I am modelling Sydney Central station as well.

Stage two will have the Elizabeth river road rail bridge between Alice Springs and Darwin will have two reverse loops to turn the Ghan around the right way heading onto the bridge north to Darwin

Be an awesome site indeed crossing the bridge which is modelled to scale 19ft 500m long for the real bridge, hope o have some sort of camera to mount on a flat wagon to film the event, next post will dig out the pic of the bridge.







On a big high, today I plan to build the spiral, will take a couple of days, not working the whole day pics to follow.

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Spiral is well under way was a busy weekend working tow days, nearly half way there.
Here is a group of 5 pics first three of the spiral and last three of how I first curve track deck base screws to the corner module, took some thought, works well.



Pic two I deliberately darked the pic to see to bubble of level in the centre, I also made a level jig which drops the grade down 3/4 inch every 42 inches. Spiral length is 24 feet in length on a 7ft radius curve, dropping down 6 inches about 2 percent grade.



Third pic you can see the black bracket, half of it is in under the corner module.






I tried screws they were hard to get out, the bolts work well but not long enough do have longer ones experimenting



On a big high I am thinking of adding curved arches to strengthen between the posts to stop sagging, may not happen, more work next weekend.

What does everyone think.

Tony from down under :glad::cb::thumb::wave::2t:;)

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I had another great day working on the spiral yesterday interrupted by a couple rain down poor's, thanks to the module design I was able to pack the curved track sections quickly and set them back up again.







Pic three I just set the curve with the track on it to see how it would fit, it will be the same size as the last curve section.

Haven't put the the level on it yet that will be next weekend, spiral is nearly build, then the painting, track laying and wiring.

I have up with a way that at the track base joins the track will line up every time and allows me to nail the track down on saw stools with extra height so I don't have to bend down, same with the wiring.

Need some advice on wanting to delete the layout pics in the older post, they are still popping up on the inter net on other pages.

On a high Tony from down under

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Some great news I have finely completed the construction of my spiral, next big job is to pain the lasted two curved section gray. I think I will keep moving along and finish the lower section as well since the hardest section is out the way.

since my last post I have actually got track down on the main corner module to the spiral and two other section and ran a test loco, bingo worked not long enough to run a video.

Will have to wait till one day this week to finish the last low level section to the spiral, it is raining and bad storm predicted for the afternoon, two weeks back was the same.

I am getting that little bit close to the big day, hoping it would be at the end of June will have o wait a few more months will shock everyone.

One of the other big thing of the way I designed the modules is I can put a few together are run a train if the weather is bad.



Pic 1 I may go level here the clamp is on the straight section should have plenty of cleanse for double stack container wagons.



Pic two you will notice to the right of the pic the path way fence bottom hand rail why I want to go level for to save having to have a start climbing up again through the garden.




Pic four I am planning a branch line to run off where the clamp is into the garden shed for a vertical staging yard and a coastal village complete with light house
As one day plan to have a container port in in front of the layout



On a big high, this is the only time I have to bending down is levelling the layout to cut the legs all the other work will be done up high, even cutting the curved track joins.

Tony from wet down under :glad::thumb::shocked::P

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Have finely finished the main line bus wiring on the spiral front corner module, wiring must be the most tedious jobs on the layout to track laying, took ages to finish 7 blocks.

And still have to solder in the point motor and signal bus wiring, I am using speaker wires to connect the modules and 25way computer plug truly plug and play.



pic one is the double plug connecting the double track on the spiral




pic two is the three plugs connecting the bus wiring on the first station module




Pic three track side the first two blocks finish at the points, next lot of five blocks start after the signal slip cross over



Pic four double speaker plug for blocks one and two



Last pic is showing the bus wiring how I stapled them to under the module, the black and red wires are the first two block continuing onto the control panel.

Now I can finish off the spiral construction and start again track laying and that bad wiring job.

Am hopping to see some trains running on at least half of the layout Christmas time. The three station modules are built need to repaint them, level and start all over again never ending.

The winter weather has being perfect, back to the cold morning and nights, August is the month that the westerly winds hi and they are dam cold winds.

Tony from down under

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Hey Tony,

That really is a nice layout you have going there. I am quite impressed that you can do that with HO scale.

I'd like to point out something if you don't mind. Someone probably should have told you this a few years ago, but it isn't polite to hi-jack someone else's thread. I want to let sleeping dogs lay, obviously the person whose thread you took over hasn't logged on in years, so it's not a huge problem as far as I can see.  But for future reference, starting your own thread would be much better than taking over someone else's topic.

That said, it really is a nice railway and I hope you're having fun with it.  Good luck to you!

--James

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Thanks James, I may take you advise and start a new thread on HO scale garden railway, have been thinking about doing that for a while.

And what a time to do so with the beginning of the station module complex, over the weekend will see at least two of the modules levelled and bolted together.

First job will be shifting the bus wire plugs up into the frame of the spiral corner module, can't get to the bolts and there will be in stage two a walk way on the road level.

Yes garden railway in HO/00 scale is very big in the UK and catching on in the US, I saw a US HO scale garden rail in a MR 1966 mag it was a huge layout.

This will be the last post for this thread starting a new thread over the weekend.

I love this forum, that is the only way to learn if you are making a mistake and someone lets you know that.

Bye from Tony from down under

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jtrain wrote:
Hey Tony,

That really is a nice layout you have going there. I am quite impressed that you can do that with HO scale.

I'd like to point out something if you don't mind. Someone probably should have told you this a few years ago, but it isn't polite to hi-jack someone else's thread. I want to let sleeping dogs lay, obviously the person whose thread you took over hasn't logged on in years, so it's not a huge problem as far as I can see.  But for future reference, starting your own thread would be much better than taking over someone else's topic.

That said, it really is a nice railway and I hope you're having fun with it.  Good luck to you!

--James


And speaking of Trev and now that I have re high jacked (or is that reverse jacked??) his thread.
Calling Trev, are you still out there, how is the Para Garden Railway going??

Wayne from Sth Oz.

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And speaking of Trev and now that I have re high jacked (or is that reverse jacked??) his thread.
Calling Trev, are you still out there, how is the Para Garden Railway going??

Wayne from Sth Oz.


Hi Wayne, last time I spoke to Trev was a couple of years back, he said he had to face open heart surgery, haven't heard of him since, will have send him an email.

I have started a new thread called Camdale HO/00 scale modular garden railway.

What scsle are you modelling.

Tony from QLD

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Tony M wrote:
And speaking of Trev and now that I have re high jacked (or is that reverse jacked??) his thread.
Calling Trev, are you still out there, how is the Para Garden Railway going??

Wayne from Sth Oz.


Hi Wayne, last time I spoke to Trev was a couple of years back, he said he had to face open heart surgery, haven't heard of him since, will have send him an email.

I have started a new thread called Camdale HO/00 scale modular garden railway.

What scsle are you modelling.

Tony from QLD


Hello Tony, very traditional H0 indoors and 1:24th scale outside, all the 24th if battery power radio control, I have been converting some H0 to BPRC using Deltang for indoors. I won't worry about H0 outdoors, I have enough work to do on the 24th out there!

Wayne from Sth Oz.

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Hi Wayne, good to hear from a member from STH OZ, I will check out your thread in both scales.

Hello Tony, very traditional H0 indoors and 1:24th scale outside, all the 24th if battery power radio control, I have been converting some H0 to BPRC using Deltang for indoors. I won't worry about H0 outdoors, I have enough work to do on the 24th out there!

Wayne from Sth Oz.


I thought of switching over to 0 scale but too far involved in HO scale now and on budget, but I do have an old Hornby 0 scale clock work tank steamy and it will get a new lease of life.
The plan is to add on a coach like the Coffee Pot in SA and power the bogie to battery power, my train club has a very good garden railway in at least three gauges and most of those members use battery power.

Aiming to have my outdoor layout up and running buy Christmas or just after Christmas depending if I need more ply, be asking for Bunning Boucher's. I haven't decided which way to go on a bridge to fill the large gap on the back of the layout, would like to have a modern double deck bridge like the Oresund bridge between Denmark and Sweden be only building the main span which is a cable stay bridge be in four sections.

Tony from SEQLD, cool morning 9 degrees, rain coming in tomorrow.




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