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 Posted: Mon Jun 18th, 2012 10:06 am
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These little fellows are found in Best's Mexican Narrow Gauge, I thought some would like to see them here. They were built by GE and are 30" gauge. I haven't seen any HOn30 or On30 electric lines (I don't think I have seen any) and these would be relatively easy to build, or so it seems.




F C M de Chia used these guys. They are shown hauling ore in what look like Grandt Line Koppell bottom dump cars.




And this little guy, just neat as all git out. Minerales N De Mexico used this GE boxcab and reportedly had a couple of more.

Now, get out the brass & plastic, a diesel mechanism (2 or 4 axles), and some pantographs. This stuff actually makes me want to model an electric ore hauler!

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 Posted: Mon Jun 18th, 2012 10:17 am
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Well you already made a diesel, it's only one more small step to electrify the Mogollon. :P

I do like those though. Would make for an awesome layout. On the Boulder Valley Model's website they have pics of some of their boxcab kits modified with pantographs. Look pretty cool.

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You can see these little GE's in a movie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ya3FS2-BN24&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZCgbzX1C_Q&feature=relmfu

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Junior-NICE FIND! What a treat to see the locos in action. I really liked the brief shot of guys with carbines sitting atop a loaded V tipper! Really neat stuff, thank you.

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I agree with Woodie, Junior---that is a great little movie clip.

When I was a widdle kid, my first train was a Lionel 4 wheel box cab (supposedly a NYC R motor but that required you to almost close your eyes to believe it). The freight cars were four wheeled also, and the box car had apple green sides and an orange roof.

Boy did those boxcars in the first video remind me of it.

Perhaps Lionel wasn't that far off prototype after all---


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I show a plan of freelance boxcab electric that was to be built in On30.
I planned to use On2 passenger car trucks and two Tenshodo SPUD WB-26's with 14mm diameter driving wheels.

https://box.yahoo.co.jp/guest/viewer?sid=box-l-weuh4c3tir6jtwlawkhbl7xr7m-1001&uniqid=0fe93d58-c7d5-432f-8461-c3331b4df332&viewtype=detail

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I think these clips are from the 1975 film Actas de Marusia, about a Chilean miners revolt in 1907. The film was released in the the US as "Letters from Marusia" and nominated for an academy award.

I'm trying to download a copy to confirm this and see if there is any more shots of the railroad.

These locos apparently still exist and were offered for sale (with the rest of the railroad and the mine) a few years ago - anyone fancy a preservation project ?

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Hi Guys :wave:


A couple of very nice lil' locys for sure !


The catenary looks really simple.

I can see that the 'arm' is held horizontal by a diagonal tether, from higher up the pole.

But what stops the pantograph from pushing the 'lecy wire upwards ?


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Si;
I can only speak for the tramway I volunteer on. That diagonal is actually a roughly 3/4 to 1" pole, and not a wire, tether. The pole is drilled through the upright pole and bolted on the ends. The reverse is also true and it is bolted to the arm to ensure (mostly) that the wire is at the right height for the panto in this case or a trolley pole.

Most panto's put upward pressure of about 90kgs and trolley poles a little less (around 75-85kgs) on the wire. So there is definitely some rise on the wire as they pass but the weight of copper wire even at 12mm (1/2 inch) is very heavy.

We've had some kids when they help move over the trolley poles at the end of the run go up in the air (and these kids are in the 6-70kg range. The little ones we always hang onto for that reason.

Hope that is of interest to some. BTW - I volunteer at the Ballarat Tramway Museum ( http://www.btm.org.au  ) where most of our lovely ladies are over 100 years old now. There's some youngsters there too, with a couple in their 80s. So I speak of contemporary issues in regards to these locomotives and overhead.
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I've given up on ever having a layout but am still slooooowly building trains: Willow Creek Traction does have some On30, and Gn15, electrics; including some from an alternate reality,



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