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Hi All. A couple of weeks ago, I had to go to the Doctors for and eyesight checkup, he told me I was to give up reading a lot and to concentrate on larger things - so after a couple of days I decided to give up and take down my ON30 layout and change scales to Fn3 !!

Ive got a whole load of On30 locos to get rid of - plus rolling stock, but Ive made my mind up to go Fn3.

I have a garage which is 15ft x 8ft, and have started to build a U shaped end to end layout in that space. Ive also decided to build all the track from scratch, using PSB for sleepers and Code 200 Peco rail - my biggest problem will be building switches (points) of which I will need about 6 of.

My rolling stock will all be Bachmann and in the post I have various items, soon as I get going I will post some pictures
Its going to be an end to end Logging layout

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Well, its now 3 days later and Ive come to my first point, I have a PCB booklet non how to make points, so Ive made a start, with pics to follow. I still awaitmy first loco from USA, which should be a 2-6-6-2 Mallet, that will need weathering and a sound system fitting, its going quite well, so far I have laid about 40ft of track on PBB sleepers and its looking quite good - again pics to follow
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Hopefully today I will be able to get some photos taken of my rapidly expanding empire.
I'm really glad about how its going and where Im going, maybe tomorrow my first Fn3 locos will appear.
cheers
Graham


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Building switches (turnouts)? Check out what DW has done on his 1:20.3 line...he shows just how to make a great looking and operating switch!

http://www.freerails.com/view_topic.php?id=4163&forum_id=50

You will need to go to page 3 to see the work, but it is well worth following along.           Woodie

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Cheers Woodie - I will look it up thanks

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Hi Woodie, Ive had a look at DW`s turnouts, but they aint finished. Mine are now at a point (sorry for pun) and all I have to do is to grind off the facings on the lead ins to the point itself. Should get that done by Friday, and then it wont take long to fit it in properly, hopefully I will have a turnout working by next Monday.
Ive now recieved my first locos from the States - I now have a Mallet 2-6-6-2: a 3 Truck Shay, a Climax, and yesterday my last loco - a Heisler - now all Ive got to do is find some loco men and apply some weathering - then Im away.
Graham

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Great news Graham. I am most impressed that you will put crews in the locos. One of my "pet peaves" is to look at vids and pix of "magnificant" and "finely detailed" layouts and there are NO crewmen in the locos! Of course, I just imagine that the locos are run by r/c. Or maybe should be! Photos please, and updates...

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Hi Woodie, thats one of my pet hates too - locos with no crew !! I think its appalling when we spend around £400 per loco but cant be a*sed to put crew in them.
I have indeed taken myself to task over no pics and will endevour to get myself in gear and provide some tommorow
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Alas - still no pics, Ive been doing other things. I sold 6 F (45mm) points to a mate about a year ago, I asked for them back last month and he agreed, so its a case of collecting them.
Once I have the points back, then Im away - good stuff
Graham

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Meanwhile - Ive been doing a bit of weathering to my rolling stock, and its now looking much better,the 3 truck Shay is next, she will look lovely pulling some log skeles around
Graham

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Well. latest is, the six points that I had will be in the post to me this week, and Ive also done about half of what I want to do with weathering my 3 Truck Shay.
I have a Lenz decoder to fit in my climax, and its then save my pennies to get a couple more decoders for the Heisler and mallet, hopefully soon will have some decent pics to post here
Graham

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Just an update - Ive now got 5 of the 6 points back - they are as good as new, so now its back to planning and theres been changes !!
Ive decided to make my small layout a modular one, but one which I will also be able to run from my garage. It will start off been 3 x 6ft x 30" modules each on legs 45" height. Its gonna be a Logging railroad, which will actually be in Fn3. It will have Bachmann logging locos, and bachmann log skeles, it will run on DCC, with all locos having sound.
Thats the plan for starters - once Ive taken some photos to give you an idea then tell me what you think
Graham

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Yet another update. I now have track laid, including 2 points on the first of my proposed 5 boards. Making certain that they will fit in the car, they will all be 79" x 30", which will then leave room for locos, rolling stock etc in the car. At the moment I have two points fitted, and both rail lines wired up, plus a dabble in a bit of log laying.
Next job is to make a Logging Piler (seen some good plans in Logging & Mining Annual). At one end of the Modular layout will be a chasm with the Pile driver operating, at the other end will be a load logging scenario - pics will follow - thats a promise !

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Pictures L: We like pictures :)

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ASH wrote: Hi Woodie, thats one of my pet hates too - locos with no crew !! Count me in. Part of it is figures matching what's in the mind's eye.
I don't like model airplanes coming with no pilots either.
A hair easier to kitbash figs in G than N.
Been trying to find an overweight woman car driver or seated passenger which is suitable to be Kathy as engineer in her HO freelance road's GP38, no luck so far.

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Ive now got a set of 4 people, probably more like 1:22, rather than 1.20, but they are okay, I did have some figures from a real nice supplier, cant remember name, but they had a group of 6 woods people, very nice indeed
Graham

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Hello ASH

I too am putting together a small Fn3 indoor layout. I have rolling stock and locomotives but have to finish the room first. Good luck with yours!
Charley

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Thanks for that Charlie, same to you.
Last Sunday II went to G Scale annual meeting at Stafford UK, quite a good turnout, some excellent bargains. I bought 4 potential engine drivers, which once painted I will photo and publish

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Ok heres yet another update with no pics yet. Ive now got 2 of the boards completely up, track is fitted on one board (Im using Peco code 200 with PSB for sleepers, which are glued down. The track is wired for DCC on one board and that works ok, I shall get the track down on board 2 this weekend, and get that wired up and tested. Ive added another loco this time a Bachmann Railtruck, which will become Goose No 1,Ive also bought a Tsunami TSU 1000 to fit into that its a low use electric motor which is recommended to have this 1 amp decoder, we shall see

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Okay, its been ages since I last had time to spend on here, but Ive got it now.
The Modular layout is now 26ft long x 26" wide, that consists of 4 boards, which fit nicely into my car.
Ive also moved house and have a rear garden which is 70 long, by 25ft at the bottom, (house end) and 18ft at the top, there is an incline throughout the garden of 4ft running upwards which will make an ideal Logging & Mining Layout.
More to follow - just updating
Graham

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Graham-

How does the new site affect the modular layout?

Many times one concept gets neglected in favor of the other, especially if there is a large civil engineering component--IE--5% ruling grade. If this is an even slope, you may get away with it, seeing as you plan logging and mining--but switchbacks--if intended, or needed, mean a lot of shovel work.

Please keep us posted on either scheme. Photos?

Herb

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If I was to build a large scale outdoor layout, I would probably build it in sections and put it on some kind of framework to raise it up to chest-high level or so. I love the lines built on the ground but at my age, I can't see myself getting down (I still do "get down")to work on track, etc. However, this is YOUR layout and whatever you decide is the way to go. Consider all possibilities.

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Also building it in sections allows to work on them in the "comfort" of the garage when the temp outside stays on the low single digits or the rain chases you away... Jose.

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Even raised 24" off the ground is better than on the ground itself; for both our backs and drainage among other issues. You can also use the slope to your advantage, have a staging area downhill using a retaining wall that is near chest height and then the rest of the layout up hill won't need to be so high. A 4 foot incline means that at the top of the hill you could have an elevatin of 12" off of ground level, but assuming you had level track that would equate to about 60 inches off the ground at the other end of the line. Old Swifer brooms work well for cleaning track, although battery and live steam are better options. And if the track is well built, you hopefully won't need to bend over so many times to re-rail a piece of equipment.


Also, don't go overboard with switchbacks unless you're really into operation. I'd suggest being able to run in a loop somewhere on the layout, then having a branch that extends to the mines or logging camps which can have steep grades, switchbacks, really whatever you want. I also learned fro my garden railroads that less is more. 150 feet of track and 6 turnouts was about perfect for me.

By the way, do you have a site or any photos to share about your modular layout? I've been curious ever since I first stumbled across this forum what your layout actually looks like. Also, I see others have asked.

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Yes...less is MORE and KISS...2 things to live by.

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James-

My layout isn't modular, but it is portable --SORT OF.
Just takes a Peterbuilt, or a Kenworth.
It's in a 40' over the road insulated trailer (ex reefer)

Not a lot of scenery. This must be the 20th O scale (plus several HO in the early days) with overhead wire. Used to be heavy into trolleys,,produced a line of O scale body kits, and some power trucks for them. When this layout was started, it was intended to be a heavier electric line with electric pattern locos for freight, but still interurban cars for passenger service. Over head wire for power was single suspension (AKA trolley) but should really be catenary for the size of some of the locos. So a while ago, I ripped out all the wire at one end of the line, and started replacing it with catenary.  The real stuff always looks taunt and graceful, but because the layout is fastened to the trailer walls, and the trailer is 3/8"-7/16" longer in the Summer than in the Winter, most of the year the overhead has some, to quite a bit of looseness in it. I was able to overcome this with the single wire with a multitude of springs and things--but the problem with the cat is much more complicated, and thereby more difficult to keep tight. Haven't had much luck with the looks, but operation is fine. Freight switching is done with two locos, an early Ingersoll diesel and a camelback 0-4-0, both battery R/C.

Sometimes I have the notion to tear it all out and rebuild in On30--with no  *#@>`&# overhead wire and Battery R/ C locos but at my age I wont get this one done--even as far along at it is--my time is stretched too thin.

Herb

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You like that? You should get a load of my layout "room". But then, I'm an Outlaw anyway.
BTW, welcome to Freerails.

Woodie

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Hi All,
it's good to be back. Since I last wrote, I've changed modelling clubs, my last one,Wakefield, didn't have room for scale, but my new one Keighley does have room, and I've been given a space around 60 ft x 10 ft, in which to build my railroad. It will be end to end and logging, with a cutting area at one end, a logging camp midway, and a Sawmill at the other end.:bow:
I'm now learning to post pics and will get that done before I proceed any further.
looking forward to talking again

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Well, still not got my photo taking sorted properly, but I'm on with it.
I've decided to stick with the garage and take modules into the clubhouse, work on them and then bring them home.
I've been looking at one or two different track layouts, even worked on a On30 at a show last weekend. If I can do that type of layout in F scale I will be happy, so onwards and upwards and one day I'm sure I will have photos for you to see
The layout will indeed be modular, at the moment the idea is to have 4ft x 2ft boards at a height of around 45 inches from ground level. I may extend two boards to 5ft x 30 inch, but we shall see, I start building the boards this week
It will be dcc and run off my Lenz 100 units, giving me 5 amps, so that should cope with all my needs.
Graham

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Well, I've made the crucial start, I've got 3 boards just about built, and they are all different, ones 56 x 24", ones 48 x 24 " and the third is 48 x 24" , but has been fitted with larger (2 X 2") legs, these form one end of 106 x 24 " the other being a 24 inch wide board onto my corner board, thereby giving me a done corner 106 x 72".
I will get some pics done now, today.
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Moving on, I've now cleared some more of my garage space and have all 6 of my first build boards about done, they bolt together, forming an L shaped area with a long side of 19ft and an L, with that around 9ft, that's what I have at home. I now need to see what will go around my bend.

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There should be no difficulty Posting photos at all.


" Well, still not got my photo taking sorted properly "

Hi Ash :wave:

Are you having difficulty TAKING photos, or POSTING photos ?
Either way, if you need some help, let us know WHERE the difficulty may be.

Photos DO need to be 'resized' before Posting, is THAT the difficulty.

Let us know where the specific difficulty is.
We are here to help.
I would be more than happy to guide you through Posting photos, whatever the circumstance may be.

All the best.

Cheers.

:moose:

Si.

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This is all so very easy that I can do it...and I live in a cave and didn't get past 3rd grade!

Be glad that we don't have to use Photof%^&-it, etc., anymore.

WCG

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OK guys thanks for that. I use a Samsung pad 4, and a nikon d70 digital camera.
I intend using Dropbox, for my picture storage, do you think that's okay ?

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I have no difficulty taking the photos, the camera is good, it's a case of me uploading them into whatever is the photo holder ie Dropbox.
I hope to post some soon
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Hi guys, just realised that my Samsung pad 4 has an excellent digital camera.
So instead I will try first to take photos with this, put them into Dropbox (already on here)and then post them that way.
I will try tomorrow, it's 7pm here in UK.
graham

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Hi Ash.

If you have photos to Post.
The quickest & easiest way to Post them, is using the 'Attachment button', at the bottom of the Freerails 'Reply' window.
The 2nd easiest way to Post them, is to use the Members Gallery, where your photos can also be organized into folders etc.

Personally I would NEVER recommend using an outside Photo host, if your photos can be here at Freerails, where the Thread they belong in is as well.

You only have to look through the net for 5-mins, to see...
PHOTO MISSING
PHOTO MISSING
PHOTO MISSING
On peoples Threads all over the place.

This is the kinda result that is, not always, but often, the result you can end up with, using outside photo hosts.

A photo re-sized to a sensible size, eg. 800x--- 4:3 or 'widescreen' & under 0.5Mb loads quickly for viewers of Freerails Pages.
This is more than can be said for many outside photo hosts.

My personal 'pet hate' in this regard, is 'PhotoBucket', the general speed & reliability of which, I have found to be terrible.
Many outside photo hosts use 'dead space' on 'ancient servers', to store your photos; some even charge you money for the 'service', if you can call it that.

Try the Freerails 'Attachment Button' or 'Members Gallery' first & see how you get on with it.
It's quick, easy, & dare I say, reliable.

:moose:

Si.

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OK Si, leave it with me. I'm very very busy for 2 days, but on Saturday will try
thanks
graham

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I've made it, I'm still alive, still have some money left and I still have my railroad items.
I had to get divorced, move again, and Ive now got a spare room that will be used for my railroad. 
It's only 9ft x 9 ft but will do me.
I'm still going to build a logging layout, maybe woods to sawmill, or just sawmill area, or just woods area.
Either way, I will be able to start on it in next couple of weeks. 
This time I'll get my camera working first and see how I do.
looking forward to being back.

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Life does what life does. 

Good that you are able to continue.





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