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I know several out here are looking at 1:35 or 1:32 scale as a neat way to model "extra narrow gauge" lines.
I was thinking (dangerous) that maybe those who are of "like minds" might get together on the chatline for some conversation and ideas.
Of course, this might be a "pie in the sky" thing, nobody wants to mess with.

If two are interested, that's conversation...
three interested, that's a conspiricy...
four interested and it becomes a movement!

No, I don't believe Bachmann will release any 1:35n2 locos and Athearn would say "What???"
But it might be fun exchanging ideas.
Just a thought.

If nobody is interested, I will be very depressed (wink, wink)
but I think there are some of you who might appreciate some communication with other "closet 35'ers".

Well?

Woodie-looking for those nits to pick...


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I'm not much of one for "real time" online discussion. I don't type very well in that setting. I make too many mistakes and I fall behind too fast. I'm not saying I wouldn't participate at all but my participation would be very limited.

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Mike-it's OK...just knowing somebody else likes the scale is enough for me.

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1:35 scale, particularly 1:35n2... What's not to like? Big trains run on HO track. Bachmann has made a small fortune on that concept. Will they make 1:35 scale locomotives and rolling stock? Lets hope not. ;)

Mike

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Yep, I love using Bachmann's On30 locos "upscaled" and I have their On30 arch bar trucks on almost all my rolling stock. Let's keep it a secret...

Woodie

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HIYA...

I'm all for it!!
I WILL start on something 35ish as soon as I wrap up the shay Im working on.
And me being me it will be military related. But not combat.
I have always had a thing for 60cm stuff. And Baldwin made a very nice little 2-6-2t and 4-6-0.
Being 1/35 would also make it easier to mill out frames and such also.

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We don't need anyone moving over to 1/35th or anything else close to it. We need to keep it a total secret or it will lose all its uniqueness (Is that even a word?).

;)

Ya'll know I don't like sharing any of my ideas either.

 

Like the guy at Walmart sez, "Git yur stuff and git out!"

 

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Mr. Mudgeon says:  35n2 is fine, but On30 will fit in your garage! :)  (Of course, it looks like this could be bashed into a 35n2 critter that would still fit inside the garage!)

Now, in terms of chat, that's a possibility ... what I really need is some way to get myself placed high up in some sort of 35n2 Pyramid Scheme, so every time I lead some poor soul into this nonsense, I end up with more time and money to work on mine! :bg: (_!_)

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In terms of combining military models, vehicles and a 1/35 civilian garage ... Resicast makes this nice little kit based on a WW1 trench railway vehicle ...

It "may" turn out that Mr. Mudgeon served with the Engineers during the Great War and that he'll end up restoring one of these in the garage.  (I've already got the kit, I just need the pyramid scheme to work out to provide the time and money needed to do all this stuff!) :cool:

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Hey...

What kit is that??

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The kit is:  Resicast 35.154 Ford T Draisine

... and it includes three wagons.  I've opened the kit and it looks like nice castings (lots of small pieces though) ... have had the "sense" not to start into it until I finish some other stuff first.  (That's rare!) :)

According to an article on Armorama, it's been recently re-released by Resicast at 120 Euros (about $150 -- gulp!).

I got mine for something like $40-$50 ... I just had "Resicast 1/35" as a saved search on ebay for a long time (probably a year or two!) until it popped up at a price that I could afford!  Then, it was time to go ahead and stash it away for a fun future rail/auto project ...

RJProducts.com (in California) has the kit listed for $98.00 -- I've purchased from them before (including MK35 figures and a nice Resicast machinery set) -- and their service has been good.  Placed the first order with them by phone to make sure they seemed "friendly" ... and they were. :2t:


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This here is gitten outta control! Redikalickalickanis.  (I think Sylvester Puddycat used to say that) Sure as Hades wasn't Elmer Fudd--or wuz it?.

Expecting discerning modelers to mess with a totally unknown scale, is like thinking that running trains without power to the track is possible.

Then this Sullivan guy wants to "keep it a secret". From who??

I shall now retire to my cave. Annoy me with this foolishness again before Spring and risk the wrath of the Herbert, descending upon you.

Let's see that gives me maybe 5 months to turn up some wide tread wheels, and-----

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Herbie-I thot I wuz readin' a post by hour ol buddy Charley but then I seen Gromit's face and knowed that maybe "Herbie caught whot Charley got".

MooHaHaHa.....
Sullivan believes in keeping secrets, he's seen stuff in Muj's back yard that if he said anything about would lead to a federal indictment or two. And he would be taken to testify in front of the Sue-Preme Coat.
What has this to do with 1:35 scale? Not a stinkin' thing but I have been told by my new engineer that I had better be nice or she'll give me a whoppin'...I recon that I won't be nice...

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Woodie,

Checked on the Resicast stuff...Shhhh...don't tell anyone. (Whispers) They have rum jugs! Perfect for tequilla, too. Hmmm...mine for cinnabar (mercury) or make tequilla?

Really, the item list is huge but a lot a bit pricey to fit into some budgets. Still, great eye candy. I can see where the military diorama builders could have a field day charging up their credit cards.

 

 

 

 

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James, yes I know there is "detail overload" in them links. I look at the stuff and then at my billfold and then back again...that's when I get out some "stuff" and begin whackin' on bits & pieces. I am really glad that I am not a military modeler, I would be building dioramas under the I 40 bridge! Money, honey! And I do love those wonderful 1:35 ladies, but remember those Master Box girls? They now work at the Gila Hotel. And the local guys and "ugly" women...thanks to Dr. Frank N Furter, the population continues to grow. I would love to build wonderful things like Dallas builds but just the spiders and ants would get to appreciate any of the work. And the gekkos..squirrels...and those dadgum birds who eat the mulberries above the layout!
I'm afraid the secret is out, it's too late to turn back. Look what we're missing in On30 and Sn2. I used to think that we were just nuts but now, we have company.

Viva la 35,
Hasta la vista...

Woodrow

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Not too far back I pulled out all my Sn2 stuff and tinkered with it a bit...laid some flex out and let the two still-working locos have a workout. I was actually considering doing a little of the Sn2 when both of those developed shorts that I could not diagnose quickly. Shucks! More door stops or maybe fishing sinkers.

On another note...the benchwork for the 35n2 is revamped and as soon as I can get a bit of a rest from cub scouts and grandkids I'll be working on that again. The boy wants to help lay track and dirt. I'll let him have a hand in it.

1/35th is alive as Dr. F would say. You just have to be a little 'touched' to do it.

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I keep being tempted by 1:35, but then I get tempted by far too many things and I need to control myself - at least my wife tells me I do....

It's a very nice scale, good friend of mine does British industrial railways in it. I've even started a few freight cars in it. But I also get tempted by 5.5n3 (not to mention On18) and I have a whole pile of On30 I could use. I've also got a half built HO layout I could convert - all I have to do is just make up my mind.

Decisions, decisions.....


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Tom-go with the flow! 1:35 scale is for you.

These droids are not the ones you seek...

Woodie-causing further trouble

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Yes but if I move to 1:35 then I'm going to start making things and your scale won't be so exclusive any more. :bg:

Having said that I can't afford to buy 3-d printed freight cars in that scale so I'd have to scratch build them anyway - but locos and passenger cars I can cheat on.

I'm very tempted to do something with a South American theme - not sure quite what yet.

Other problem if I convert the HO layout - it's quite a big layout , would need a lot of stock to run it. It would also need a lot of trackwork changes for 1:35, much less for On30 or 55n3

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Tom-I ain't worried about exclusive stuff! I simply love the scale and have no intentions of rubber gauging again.

What to do with HO track? Bury it in weeds & dirt...simple.

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tebee wrote: Yes but if I move to 1:35 then I'm going to start making things and your scale won't be so exclusive any more. :bg:

Tom

Who cares about being exclusive? Nothing as good as 1:35 scale model railroading stays exclusive for very long but if you get started in 1:35 now you can say you were part of the original movement that started it all. Of course, we'll all have to tip our hats to Woodie.

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I have nothing against using HO track well buried for On30, indeed I think I sometimes prefer it as it gives more of the "main line" feel I prefer.

But for 1:35 I think I'd prefer individual wooden coffee stirrer sleepers, with the rails spiked down ( I have a Kadee spiker)

But for the layout, I'd also have to simplify a lot, removing much existing track as there would not me room for 1:35 buildings or indeed 1:35 trains to pass.

I'll start another thread on the layout as 1:35 is one of the more unlikely ( but still possible ) options.

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Well, I'm not using HO track either. I'm laying mine in hand made ties.

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I am interested in 1/35th scale railways. I have built a couple of locos on Hornby (UK) chassis, and a few wagons but have yet to build a layout. The work of UK modeller Christopher Payne inspired me initially.
Miniart make a range of 1/35th diorama kits, figures and vehicles that can be adapted for railway use.http://www.miniart-models.com/
I have purchased several sets of their industrial building walls to eventually create railway yards enclosed with factory walls.

Bachmann's wooden tipping cars in On30 look good with 1/35th scale locos, as do a few other On30 cars. A 1/32 scale Malcolm Moore DM loco kit was made by the Model Company in New Zealand. They can be powered by a black beetle drive.I have yet to build mine. Detail sets made for military modellers can be used to dress scenes. Plus Model are an example of such a company.

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Further to my previous post, Peco (UK) On30 track looks quite good for 1/35th industrial trackage. I cut the webs between plastic sleepers, and space them out further to give what I think is a more realistic look.

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Hey Geoff -- Welcome aboard! From another "newbie" and 1/35 nut. :moose:

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Welcome all you crazy 1:35 guys. You have found a home here. Here is a snapshot of where I live, everyone is 35 or so.




Just a sleepy little town...until the sun goes down!

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Woodie,

the place where you live is awesome. There is really something about Black & White photography that provides so much character to great modelling.

Dallas, thanks for the welcome!
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It's nice to see the abundant interest in 1/35 here! At this point, Woodie's stuff definitely has the BEST panoramic views ... but let's call that a "challenge" rather than an absolute, so we can see what the new guys might produce! :s:

Meanwhile, it's back to some silly little 1/35 minutia for me and some non-panoramic, micro-views! :) :slow:

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It helps having an entire backyard at your disposal. I call that a good thing and it does look really fine up close and personal. The photos actually do it justice.

But, yes, Woodie continually makes me very jealous. The more so because I live so close to him (about 20 minutes away).

Name-dropper? You bet!

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I love that photo. The color version is great too.

If I had actually planned to build a layout, and thoroughly researched the options before buying anything, I might have done it in 1/35th. Come to think of it, I could have had a much larger RR by building a 1/35th outdoor tabletop layout all around the perimeter of the yard.

But, my layout came about entirely by chance. I saw a nice G scale starter set on sale at a discount store, and got totally hooked due to the realistic sound. Bought it on the excuse that it could be something the grandkids could play with. After running it around and around on the front patio for a few weeks, I started thinking about where and how to have a permanent layout. The rest is history.

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Woodrow , Herbie..co constipaters....

Hey..this crazy thing is fun..when yer young..but when ya gotta hide it..cause whot you see is probably not whot ever body else is seeing..or a foto- graph would shew...like Ghostes and stuff..they shew up on mirs and such..but..when ya gotta watch what ya say..sometimes it is a bit less fun alla ofa sudden...I want in on this 1 thirtyfifth stuff..I got a bachman dizzle or two..some figgers arrived in the mail..like  abloddy plane crash..neat foto of the lokey in the shed..and a very nice job of painting em too..:old dude:

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Woodrow , fellers..

The Lokey shewn last was form the 1:32n20".... phase..some years ago...it is fine for this better scale..he fits on a porter chassii...the idear was to have a moderate disposable chassii...we were having trouble with the Porters at that time..smoking the leedle pick ups..I know..track powa etc etc..I want to use it again due sound ..My half inch efforts mean I gotta make a steamer fro the rawr..and i decided I wanna build a railway..not a steamer outline....from the rawr .

Another foto of the thing with body off..


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You know how I've been threatening to do a critter in 1/35?

Well I couldn't find a chassis I was happy with or was sure would still available 10 months down the line, so I've done a Switcher to fit the HO Switcher(SW7 and the like ) chassis available from Athearn, Proto 2000 and others.



I'd be interested what you think of it and how it could be improved. I'm not 100% happy with the hood for instance.

It's a bit bigger than some of my previous 1:35 stuff - 6ft 6 wide and almost 10ft high, more matching Maine sized stuff than industrials.

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Tom-it looks OK to me. I might make a lower hood if possible but then that's what I like. Have you considered a center cab loco? I know that the SW chassis are available even as "junkers" at flea markets. Had you made this about 6 months ago, I might have gotten it instead of making my own. Also, for those with disposable income or access to "junked" mechanisms, a pair of Bachmann On30 Davenport mechanisms could be used to power this loco. I do know that it will work.
So, I like your design and am sure that others will chime in also.

Woodie

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Well funny you should mention it I've been working on a centre cab version too.







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I LOVE IT! Well, I really, REALLY like it. That's the one.

Woodie
PS-can you get a builder name "cast" into the hood above the radiator? Wheew..

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HIYA...

OH YEAH.. I would really like more on the center cab version.

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Well in theory I could put the builders name there, but embossing letters is one of the things I've not manage to get to work yet in the package I use - although it is supposed to do it.

If I do manage to fix it, what name should I put ?

And a slightly more modern version




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That's a pretty cool looking model. Tell me, when you go to build it, how do you make those rounded corners?

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Tom-the "GE LOOK" is neat! How about both??? Of course I am trying to influence your sales potential ??!! Also, the GE version has a welded cab & no rivets which I tend to like. But then, I have a Kephart-O-Matic riveting machine at my disposal. No, really, I like the GE, it "speaks" to me.

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It's built already - One thing 3-d printing can do is produce things you can't make by injection moulding - Woodie's coach is an good example of this.

Only problem is the rounded bits tend to accentuate any layering effects you might get.

It's not quite ready to run in 1:35, but a sort of half-way house between a kit built model and a ready to run one. You buy a one-piece shell, add all the detailing bits you want, paint it an you have a loco.

Tom

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So Tom, did I miss something above? Are you making kits to sell?

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You see another nice thing you can do with this technology is a virtual kit-bash. The cab for the GE version start as the cab for the other one. Then I cut off all the rivets and the roof overhang. Put a fillet on the insides of all the corners , then rounded off the outsides of the corners - there you have the welded modern cab !

The bonnets are also derived from the ones on the previous loco but in this case I changed parameters and features of the original design whilst retaining the basic size and structure so I could just drop them into the new design.

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mwiz64 wrote:
So Tom, did I miss something above? Are you making kits to sell?

They are on Shapeways http://www.shapeways.com/shops/tebee?sort=newest§ion=1%2F32+and+1%2F35

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Wow that looks like some nice stuff. I can see myself buying several 1:35 scale skip frames.

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Ain't it!!?? I keep looking at the GE centercab...I DON'T NEED ANOTHER LOCO! Hey Tom, is the hood area hollow on the model? Just askin'....

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Fellers...

Uuuum..I thnk he is going to drawr a program and have it printed out ...like a cookie cutter..as many as you want..all perfect in everyway,...it is the future..

Rapid proto typing...?


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Well, if I had access to affordable 3D printing, I would certainly learn how to do that type of computer aided design. Right now I work exclusively in 2D but I've always had an interest in learning 3D.

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Well all I gotta add is...I can go outside and look at the Gila Tram's new open coach and see how neat the technology is. Yep, the new car has been outside (covered up mostly) in various temps and it is in great shape. Thank you Tom for such a neat thing.

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M , fellers..

Once ..I had a friend ..Tim Stolle..still a friend..not on this plane anymore..he was literate .....then the latest was lazer cutting of planes...not Aero planes..but cutting and stacking of flats..made many things..and he was very creative and provided alot of cool stuff...the 3 D printing is now the latest..a bit spendy as you said..but Vi-ola ..a lokey or anything you can drawr..

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3 D printing costs are coming down all the time, but still expensive for 1:32 just because of the shear volume material used.

There are good free/cheap programs for doing the design now,more coming out all the time - 123D seems fine for one

Woody - yes the hoods are hollow If you click on the cube at the bottom of the picture you will get a rotating 3d view of it you can move round with your mouse and look underneath.

Tom

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I have been tossing around an idea in my head and thought I would throw it out and see what you all think. The 35n2 thing is looking pretty good. Woodie has definitely shown us what's possible. Anybody play with the idea of 1:35 in different gauges? There is this small 30 inch prototype line I would like to model. One porter, eight side dumps and a flat car. So if my math is right, HO track + O scale donor + 1:35 details and people = 35n2. What do I get if I add 0n3 track + a donor On3 porter + 1:35 details and people?

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Dan ,fellers..

Scales are for our own convenience..quarter inch is good for trade support..,and now bachmann has 0n30 trade support in spades...

The use of other gauges...mixed with other scales is fine..but it seems to me to be somewhat difficult in some areas and easier in others..

Bachmann quarter inch stuff translates { size /bulk ..} wellk with 1:35th..

I haven't thought about much else..I do some 1/2n 18 "...only the  track gauge is the same as 0n3'..the wheel standards are different..I use "O" std gauge wheelies..

I suspect the 0n3' with 1:35 th leanings is fine..seems 1026 thous is three feet..750 thous../ .0342 thous per foot..?..

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Hi 1:35 er's !

Musta mist this one originaly...
...never used to look in the OT forum.

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Tebee...
I just looked at your 35n2 Gilpin Trucks.
A question on wheelsets.
I don't have any Bachmann On30 wheelsets to measure...
...but I do have some Kadee On30 wheelsets.
The wheelsets have 1/2" dia treads...
...& are 25.9mm over the needle-point bearing-ends...
...the axle ends are 2.4mm dia.

Will they work with the Gilpin Tram 35n2 3D-printed trucks ?

Cheers

Si.

P.S. Can anyone tell me also...
...are the wheelsets in the std. Bachmann trucks all the same dia.?
ie. in...
Arch Bars
Long Arch Bars
SR&RL Arch Bars
Passenger Trucks

Never seen these 'in the flesh' as am in the UK (not many about !)

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Si- Bachmann On30 wheelsets work in the 1:35 GT trucks. Bm pass car wheels are larger. How's that?

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Hi Woodie

I think I'm gonna have to start a thread for my new 1:35n2 adventure !

As you know, I have been bumblein' about for a while, checkin' out parts.

I have been tryin' to simpley come up with 'a spec' for my RR's car building in 1:35n2 ... as obviously, there is no standard.

I have been experimenting with car-lengths & such for a layout plan; using paper templates for car spots & movements.

Also tryin' to figure out coupler height & stuff.
I have some Kadee 'O' scale 805's ... which kinda look OK for 1:35 (opinions anyone ?).
But have considered L&P also...
...decisions, decisions ?

What I was missing, were the loco's, to 'scale' the car-building to...
...I now have a small & large loco for conversion to 1:35n2 (Porter 0-4-2 & Shay).
Also a bunch of 1:35 figures & an SAS jeep !!! for sizing.

Now just seeing what trucks & coupler height etc. will work out, so that everything actualy goes together; & I don't end up makin' stuff that ain't compatible with the other !

I guess at the end of the day, I should just buy 1 of each type of the trucks, & see what's what.
I have now found a UK supplier for Bachmann trucks...
...which is good, the P+P from the US is pretty $£$£$!

Tebee's Gilpin trucks look good.
I have 8x Kadee On30 wheelsets already.
So could use 2 pairs easy, I think.
They also have nice simple brake-beams built in as well; which is cool.

The main problem for me livin' in the UK & liking US trains...
...is the massive P+P & TAX on top of small items like trucks & parts.
If I could go to a hobby-store in downtown wherever; or use regular local mail-order it would be a lot easier !

An example of my recent Shay purchase from Trainworld in NYC

$99 - Shay
$47 - Shipping
$40 - UK customs & tax !

Ugh !!!

If I had walked into Trainworld in person; I could have nearly bought TWO Shays...
...It's still cheaper than the UK shelf price for the same item; which is $335 for a non DCC, no-sound Shay !!! yep.

We'll get there somehow ... somewhen !!!

Cheers

Si.

Lookin' forward to makin' some RR cars soon !
& perhaps even a teeny-weeny LAYOUT !

Been robbin' McDonalds & Costa Coffee...
...of pocket fulls of stirrers...
...at EVERY oportunity.

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As Moe Howard says to his brother and Larry Fine..."Get to work, you!"... Get a couple of figures done and then use them to "scale" everything else. Works like a champ. Above all, have fun.

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Si

A tip for buying stuff from the US - get it sent USPS First Class Mail. Most of the time it gets there without tax especially if it's a small packet.Even if it does get caught the British Post office only make a fairly small charge.

Priority mail always seems to incur the charges - anything with insurance will. Avoid like the plague the couriers like UPS. Many years ago, before I discovered this,I bought a Kadee spiker from the US for I think $275 - the guy shipped it UPS thinking he was doing a good thing, the charged me £120 in taxes and fees !

The 35n2 Gilpin trucks are designed to take the Bachmann On30 wheels but will also take the slightly bigger Bachmann UK wheels or the slightly smaller Dapol OO ones - You can get these from Hattons.

I have a couple of pairs of the Gilpin trucks here if you want some.

Tom

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Hi Tom

The British Post Office, these days ...
... hold a gun to your head & say ...
... " PAY US NOW !!! "

It never used to be like that.

Yeah... small ones get through ...
... Trainworld pack Shays in quite big boxes though.

Yeah... it was US-post; but Trainworld insured it, not me.

Not to worry; if I can sneek a few packs of detail-parts past the uniforms, they won't bankrupt me !

- - - - - -

I just read the Wikipedia page on 3D printing ...
... so I now know 'that much' about it.
I have never seen or used a 3D printed item before.

I also looked at more of your items on Shapeways ...
... very nice !

The locos look cool, & the 4 wheel On30 under-frames look to me to be something I could use eventualy as well.

A couple of questions:-
1. What is the name of the plastic/polymer the parts are made from ?
2. I like the option of 'Black' that Shapeways give; are the ones you have there, in 'Black'?
3. I assume the plastic is easy to paint; I habitualy use Humbrol enamels for most stuff like this, as it sticks good ! (but have acrylic, oil & watercolour 'artists paints' as well)

Cheers

Si.

They said that a 3D printer can partly replicate it's self ...
... by printing some of the parts to make another one !
&
An 83 year old woman, is now chewing steaks; with her new 3D printed jaw-bone !...
... Strong stuff !

Amazing !

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It also depends if your parcel comes via the Post office or ParcelForce in the UK - the former charge around £8.50 per parcel as their fee while the later charge £13.50.

A year or two ago I won a On30 Shay from one of The Favorite Spots's auctions for some ridiculous some like $57- paid another $25 postage but it got here without any duties being charged - maybe French LaPost are less money grabbing, but it was a very cheap Shay!

Ten or so years ago I had a business buying NCE DCC chips from the US at $120 for 10 - was reselling them in UK for twice that price, but it was still half what you could buy any other chip in the UK for. I used to get them sent over in a Global Priority Fixed rate envelope and never got charged duty .

The trucks are made from Nylon - is much stronger than normal plastic. It does however, have a slightly rough and porous surface, but I find takes paints well.

It does flex a little so you may find enamels coming off in time, I use artist acrylics, the liquid sort, not the tube type, and find it sticks well. I buy in white plastic and pre-color my trucks a rusty reddish brown by dyeing them with Rit dyes. It's not the same as the Black you get from Shapeways.

BTW you can't use enamels on Shapeways FUD/FD but in 1:32 thats unlikely to worry you.

Tom

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Hi Dan

If you use On3 track & wheelsets for a 1:35 railway, you get some of the way towards the bulk that makes On30 so appealing, but why not go the Whole Hog and use S-standard gauge, 22.4mm?  There is support for this gauge by way of NWSL wheelsets, the S-standard boys make flex track and turnouts and I have been told by David White of Slaters (UK) that it is possible to fit washers behing the wheels of 21mm gauge wheelsets to pack them out to 22.4mm.

I know all this because I have been investigating modeling Australian VR 30-inch gauge Puffing Billy railways in 9mm:foot, having tried and failed to design a workable 9mm:foot 42-inch gauge layout to fit my available space - can't fit the 1.8m radius curves and I don't want a point-to-point.  I can get commercially-made stainless steel tyres to suit the steam locos' driving wheels, and the carrying wheels correspond in size to an O-scale American standard freight car wheel, so all the hard work is taken care of.

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Ford T Draisine with 3 wagons & stowage


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Ford T Draisine with 3 wagons & stowage






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You know it's amazing what you find when you think you have no record of something you've done!I was just trying to get back on NGRM Online and found a load of my old pictures from 2008 ish of my aborted layout known as Havengore.  It was a little on the whimsical side, but for England it was very pioneering 1/32nd scale narrow gauge.  I had a great time scheming up what might have been knocked up by an isolated community on an island off the Essex coast. I found pictures of the line's only passenger vehicle!

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I never finished anything as I realised I would never have space for it all, so I gave it to my dear friend Ken Cooper, who then went and died soon afterwards. I have never seen it all again and assume it went on the bonfire with a lot of his stuff as his family were not especially interested in all his hobbies.Here's another view of the first class travel arrangements.  Hand made in aluminium sheet from pics on the 'Net.Cheers,Martin

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Hi Martin :wave:



I like the idea of a small isolated 'rusty' island off the Essex coast !

Keep the tourists penned in at Southend, is what I say !! ;)



Interesting looking  o D d i T y  Martin. L:



You may have just provided some inspiration ! :)

I bought the small Tamiya 1:35 scale 'Simca 5' kit recently.





Totally NUTZ for down South U.S. narrow gauge really. :Crazy:

But subscribing to the 'there's a prototype for everything' truism ...

... a 'Simca 5' actually DID end up in the railroads hands. :P



A strange looking, very tiny 'roller-skate' for sure.

I was wondering what to do with it ?

Somehow never got to thinking RAILCAR or a SPEEDER !

Thanks Martin.

More insanity.


NICE ! :thumb:



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If you happen to like road vehicles as well as trains ...

... there are a TON of reasonably priced kits & diecasts available in 1:32 and 1:35 for all kinds of stuff ! :bg:

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Si, that will make a great critter/speeder/etc.

I made my living for many years making masters for 1/32nd scale slot car body kits. So 1/32nd scale is very familiar to me. 1/35th less so as I despise all militaria and that is very much a military scale, plus it ain't on my steel rule, so I wouldn't touch it.

I'd love to do 32nd NG again, but just don't have the space.

You get on with that Simca. It looks interesting.

Havengore was supposed to be set near Potton and Foulness. Could have been a bit of nuclear spillage as the residents were a bit odd-looking.

Martin

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Those cars look really neat!

Gets the brain cells thinking that a little RC rail car could be knocked together easily!

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I'm sure it could, Michael. I have some of those cheap as chips R/C cars which I can try fitting into locos. You only need forwards and backwards. With suitable gearing, speed control isn't really necessary. Industrial diesels tend to do one speed anyway. SLOW!

Martin

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Well ...

... I hadn't searched for any such 'Simca 5' related prototype before ! ???

But ...

... It seems THERE IS a prototype for EVERYTHING !! :thumb:





This is a Dutch Railways standard-gauge speeder/railcar from 1947 apparently.


The Tamiya 1:35 scale 'Simca 5' kit is small, simple & cheap ! :)

In that case I'LL HAVE A DOZEN SIR !! :bg:


Pimp that 1:35n2 railcar baby ! :P



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I kinda like Martins 'on a flatcar' lash-up a bit better though maybe  .  .  .  L:





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Si,I think that's a FIAT Topolino, rather than a Simca, n'est ce pas?
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Hi Martin :wave:



Yeah ... I was gonna mention the Fiat 'Topolino'.

My history can be a bit scrappy at times ...

... it's what happens when you just look at the pictures ! :shocked:



The 'Simca 5' was a Fiat made outside of Italy, I believe.

Part Spanish part French ?

Or have I gone completely NUTZ ? :Crazy:



Anyhow the 'Topolino' & '5' are close enough to fool me.

Of course it was the 'Topolino' in the movie 'Roman Holiday' as well. :cool:





1948 model ?



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Si, it was the Topolino on the back of most British big engined "stock" cars and early dragsters too!! Used to see them on Telly on rainy Saturdays when the ball kickers would get wet and Grandstand was short of showable sports.

Any small saloon with that rail treatment will look terrific!

Martin

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" Topolino on the back of most British big engined "stock" cars and early dragsters too!!"



Hi Martin :wave:



INDEED !

If you want something a bit quicker than a rusty ol' railcar ...

... try a slight engine UPGRADE !! :shocked:






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'Grandstand' Eh!

Bring back Frank, all is forgiven ! ;)

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Haha!  That's better!  Frank Bough, eh?  His habit ruined Nationwide. I liked that.  The One show is drivel by comparison.
I can remember reading American mags. full of those kind of pictures instead of ghastly french lessons.
Martin

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" I can remember reading American mags. full of those kind of pictures instead of ghastly french lessons."



Quite so ! ;)

I couldn't resist this one !!

Perhaps I need a 'Simca-5' ultra-FAST ! 1/4-mile machine ... ?

... NOT a rusty ol' railcar after all. :P






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Yeah, that body on a rail chassis with BIG rail wheels on the back and lil' wagon wheels on the front! Sorted

Martin

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Hello SI, as I always said: there`s a prototype for everything. I prefer peglesham version but 4-2-0 for better tracking.
Happy modeling:glad::rah::old dude:
Want to see the results casting on the rails

Kurt

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Hi Kurt :wave:



I agree very much on the 'prototype for everything' thinking ! :thumb:

I love your builds along those lines.


Thanks for the encouragement. :bg:





An interesting chassis picture from this type of car.

The Tamiya 1:35 version is a pretty nice model kit.



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Hi all,
If you do a Google Image search for "Gnitro Gnat" your "dragster on rails" issues may be sorted. The story is told on Gnatterbox at http://mrhpub.com/2016-12-dec/online/html5/index.html?page=132&noflash It was ever only a straight-line runner (what would you expect for a dragster??) The anti-tip-up wheels on the rear couldn't handle curves.

Unfortunately both the model and the builder are no longer. The Gnitro Gnat predeceased its builder by several years. The Gnitro Gnat was positioned on top of the builder Jim Favre's computer monitor in the days of big CRT display monitors. Unfortunately Jim accidentally bumped the monitor and "Gnitro" took a fatal fall to the floor whereupon it exploded. :sad:

Another tall tale and true from this hobby's legendary past, RIP Jim, your modelling lives on in the internet,:2t:

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Michael M wrote: ...

http://resicast.com/products/kits/slideshow-141/index.html


http://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=212198&page=1&ord=1



thanks for the links.


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