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 Posted: Sun Jan 13th, 2013 04:01 pm
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When I was passing through Oracle, Arizona I saw this string of old cars along the road.  The antique(read: rusty junk) store they were in front of was closed so I have no additional information.  They look like they could be 30" gauge but I don't know for sure.






This one is my favorite.  6 to 8 feet long, about 4 feet wide and 4 to 5 feet high.  A string of these would look great behind a critter.  Anyone recognize this type of coupler?

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Looks like a drop bottom gondola.  Below are some close-ups of the trucks inside.




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 Posted: Sun Jan 13th, 2013 04:09 pm
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Neat backhoe/ loader.  I was guessing it was self propelled but couldn't tell.




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What the....?? I have no idea.  Check out the couplers below.



We'll call this the A end.



And this will be the B end.   Looks like they would fit A to B and A to A but not B to B.

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Hardcore flat. 



Close up of the couplers. 



If anyone can positively identify this stuff please post. 

Enjoy,
Dan B

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 Posted: Sun Jan 13th, 2013 05:15 pm
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Okay, I'll give it a shot at identifying the cars: I don't know too much based on details, but I might offer some suggestions:

First post shows a hopper. depending on what was being mined, it would have probably carried out unprocessed rock.

second post shows a dump car, little bit more typical in a mine.

third post depicts a backhoe, on wheels, and yes, it probably was self propelled so that it could go down a track, grab a scoop, and put it in the bucket car behind it.

fourth post, okay you have me stumped.:us:

My guess would be it is either a fuel car, or it was to carry water/chemicals to the people working in the mine.

I think that that one coupler has pieces missing off of it.

Obviously that one below is a flat car, like you said.

And the last post shows a self propelled dump car (I forget what the name is) That piece would go into the mine, grab a bucket full of dirt, and haul it out, dumping it in the dump area.

Really interesting pieces of equipment. I may not be 100% accurate (odds are I'm less than 50%) but it seems to work in my head.

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Neat cars, really like that first one. Any more photos of it would be appreciated.
The couplers were also used at the Apache Powder works in Benton, AZ.





The final car is a "mucker", it would shovel from the front, then the bucket would
rotate over the top to a small mine car behind it.
The operator stood to the side to operate it.
I have a few Mucker photos I'll post in the future...

Ken

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Perhaps that tank car in the fourth post was used to transport wet concrete, from wherever it was mixed, to wherever they might have needed it inside the mine. There does appear to be a lot of old, spilled concrete on it.



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 Posted: Thu Jan 17th, 2013 09:20 am
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Ken, thanks for posting the pictures of the couplers. Apache Powder isn't to far south from Oracle, Az, I wonder if there is a connection.

Ray, I think concrete is about right for that odd car. That's what the splatter looked like, just never seen something like that before.

Thanks all for the input. I only had a few moments to stop and snap the pictures on the side of the road. Neat to be able to tap the free rails knowledge base.

Dan B

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Dan and Ken-

If you have a photo of the couplers with the patent number visible--I see Pat.D on a couple of the shots-- it would be interesting to look up the patent for more info.


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