Freerails Home 
Home Search search Menu menu Not logged in - Login | Register
Freerails > Model Railroad Forums > Logging & Mining > PFM B2 shay, 6 log buggies, need a track plan now

Freerails IS ACCEPTING new Members ... To join Freerails ... See how to Register as a Member in the 'Joining Freerails' Forum

PFM B2 shay, 6 log buggies, need a track plan now
 Moderated by: . Page:    1  2  3  Next Page Last Page  
New Topic Reply Printer Friendly
 Rating:  Rating
AuthorPost
 Posted: Sun Feb 3rd, 2013 02:02 pm
  PMQuoteReply
1st Post
artfull dodger
Registered
 

Joined: Mon Jan 21st, 2013
Location:  
Posts: 50
Status: 
Offline
Gave up on the On30 plans, only got as far as getting a Climax(now for sale inquire within).  I had kept all my HO logging stuff short of a locomotive, I have 6 keystone logging buggies, barnhardt loader, kaydee caboose and a small sawmill.  I have a line on a nice PFM truck shay that I think I can swing if I can get the Climax sold.  My problem lies in my total inablity to draw up track plans that fit my available area.  I have a 2 foot by 8 foot shelf layout with a 3 foot "L" extension off one end.  I am not necesarly looking for a continious loop.  I understand that the sceen sets the mood in logging modeling, so in my mind's eye I still see a switch back style operation like the lumber line that Cass Scenic uses.  Putting the sawmill on the "L" extension with a small yard/engine house, maybe a couple company houses ect.  Or am I better off with a more level line, maybe following a creek bottom. I do have a set of the Woodland Scenics 4% premade grades that I thought I might use.     Mike

Back To Top

 Posted: Sun Feb 3rd, 2013 02:12 pm
  PMQuoteReply
2nd Post
jtrain
Registered


Joined: Sun May 27th, 2012
Location: Missoula, Montana USA
Posts: 1006
Status: 
Offline
For logging, nothing works better than gum stumping! Here's the link to the Micro layout website's page on gum stumping, the page can fill you in on what I'm talking about:

http://www.carendt.com/scrapbook/page38a/index.html

This track plan is intended for a 18 X 72 or a 24 x 96 shelf. A three foot extension to the line gives you plenty of room. However, it does require a runaround for one locomotive operation, or if you reduce it to one switchback and have a 180 degree turn where the other should be.



____________________
James W.

New Blog (permanent this time)

blackhillsrr.blogspot.com
Back To Top

 Posted: Sun Feb 3rd, 2013 02:18 pm
  PMQuoteReply
3rd Post
jtrain
Registered


Joined: Sun May 27th, 2012
Location: Missoula, Montana USA
Posts: 1006
Status: 
Offline
Oh yeah, and at the bottom of the page I gave the link to, the Cass railroad really is just a large gumstump! :bg:

--James:java:



____________________
James W.

New Blog (permanent this time)

blackhillsrr.blogspot.com
Back To Top

 Posted: Sun Feb 3rd, 2013 02:33 pm
  PMQuoteReply
4th Post
artfull dodger
Registered
 

Joined: Mon Jan 21st, 2013
Location:  
Posts: 50
Status: 
Offline
Neat track plan, pretty much what I was thinking. Cass is a double switchback set up. And that is kind of what I was thinking in order to gain some height up the "mountain". The actual log loading area would be kind of blocked by a tree line so it doesnt actualy have to be modeled, just simulated. The focus on that part of the layout would be more of setting the mood, lots of trees overhanging the track ect. The sawmill and small company town would be the focus of structure and population modeling. Gotta have a bar and that special place for the unmarried lumberjacks to have fun. A small single stall ramshackle engine house with 2 tracks, 1 indoors and 1 outdoors. Now I need to get that On30 Climax sold so I can get the required motive power. All the log buggies need trucks yet, Kaydee arch bar with the add on brake beams are my plans there. Mike

Back To Top

 Posted: Mon Feb 4th, 2013 01:41 am
  PMQuoteReply
5th Post
jtrain
Registered


Joined: Sun May 27th, 2012
Location: Missoula, Montana USA
Posts: 1006
Status: 
Offline
Here's one suggestion I have for a gumstump if you like that look:



As you can see, there is a track extending behind the lower level to the right. What I would do is take that track, extend it around a curve, throw a couple switches on it, and wallah, there you have your town and saw mill.

Then, on the lower level, I would replace the yard with a runaround track. This could be your interchange to the outside world. Then the top track you could either have one log landing, or just make it disappear behind trees like you had said, what ever you have room for.

A typical operating session would go like this:

The engine takes the cut lumber down the hill to the interchange track where it parks those cars on one side of the interchange track, the engine then pulls forward, flips a switch, and then backs a train of empty cars through the switchbacks up the hill to the log landing. From there, the train switches out loaded cars, and then goes back down to the interchange to runaround the cars. The train then continues up the hill past the first runaround and into town again. I'll put up a diagram in a moment.



____________________
James W.

New Blog (permanent this time)

blackhillsrr.blogspot.com
Back To Top

 Posted: Mon Feb 4th, 2013 01:57 am
  PMQuoteReply
6th Post
artfull dodger
Registered
 

Joined: Mon Jan 21st, 2013
Location:  
Posts: 50
Status: 
Offline
I would modifiy that to a log reloading camp on the upper level, with a high line dragging logs in from the woods to be reloaded by the barnhardt loader on the train. Then back down the mountian to the sawmill. After parking those at the log dump, the shay will then switch out in bound and out bound box cars of loaded finished lumber. Its not a done idea yet, building a HOn3 DRGW short caboose right now. Was gonna do a HOn3 layout but it wouldnt amount to much as I lack the room for curves to run K class Mikados. To work around that, was thinking of using the T trak modular idea to make up a portable layout that I could put on the dining room table when I want to run. Exploring ideas, looking at what I have already on hand. No HO logging power but do have logging train, No HOn3 motive power, just a couple freight cars and a caboose, 1 On30 Climax but no On30 logging cars. On30 buildings are a bit steap for my budget. HO are more in my budget. Most of all this hinges on finding a new home for the Climax so I can use the funds to buy something else. Mike

Back To Top

 Posted: Mon Feb 4th, 2013 03:38 am
  PMQuoteReply
7th Post
jtrain
Registered


Joined: Sun May 27th, 2012
Location: Missoula, Montana USA
Posts: 1006
Status: 
Offline
Okay, here is kind of what I was talking about, i think your idea is pretty similar. So here is a rough sketch on paint.


One helpful hint would be to figure out what scale you wanted first, then figure out what you can have on a layout. I mean, you could do a really nice display, but if you have few pieces of equipment or if it is a scale you don't want, then what good is the layout?

Just being helpful, I hope.

--James:java:



____________________
James W.

New Blog (permanent this time)

blackhillsrr.blogspot.com
Back To Top

 Posted: Mon Feb 4th, 2013 11:23 am
  PMQuoteReply
8th Post
artfull dodger
Registered
 

Joined: Mon Jan 21st, 2013
Location:  
Posts: 50
Status: 
Offline
I have settled on HO, since that is the scale I have the most pre exhisting equipment. I have the Climax and a couple other things up for sale so that I can afford the shay in HO scale. I will only push forward with the On30 if I am unable to sell the Climax. That is kind of plan B. Just have to see what happens. I do like that track plan! Mike

Back To Top

 Posted: Mon Feb 4th, 2013 02:01 pm
  PMQuoteReply
9th Post
mwiz64
Registered


Joined: Mon Mar 26th, 2012
Location: Fenton, Michigan USA
Posts: 1334
Status: 
Offline
Put the Climax up on Ebay and it will sell.



____________________
Mike
Back To Top

 Posted: Mon Feb 4th, 2013 02:16 pm
  PMQuoteReply
10th Post
artfull dodger
Registered
 

Joined: Mon Jan 21st, 2013
Location:  
Posts: 50
Status: 
Offline
It is, buy it now is $175, thats what I have in it. Lately folks have been waiting till the last few min to do anything on ebay it seems. Just sold my brass HO diesel on there, so I am part way to the shay. Mike

Back To Top


 Current time is 05:47 am
Page:    1  2  3  Next Page Last Page  

Freerails > Model Railroad Forums > Logging & Mining > PFM B2 shay, 6 log buggies, need a track plan now
Top



UltraBB 1.172 Copyright © 2007-2016 Data 1 Systems