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Well, I've Decided D.C.C. Is My Best Choice
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 Posted: Fri Aug 2nd, 2013 01:02 am
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Nope. I haven't taken the system I bought out of the box either. I'm going radio control. I just don't want to have to wire a layout or clean track.



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I don't model in G scale. I convert HO and On30 or scratch build in 1:35n2. There is plenty of room in O standard gauge equipment to convert them to R/C if you care to. Not everyone is up to that which is why the industry needs a more plug and play solution for R/C train operation, IMHO.

I'm not so concerned with sounds. To my ear, they don't scale down well.

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Hal-if you want to know whether one can bypass a board and run with r/c, read the dozens of posts in the radio control forum here. Simply put, the answer is YES.

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My one conversion that I ran across the floor was connected from the ESC straight to the motor terminals. I clipped the wires from the DCC board and removed it. It would be a simple job to replace it but I likely never will.



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I was a DCC naysayer for years, a real humbug approach to the concept, after all I had a good DC handheld and I knew cab control.

Then I bought my first DCC outfit, a Lenz Compact and was it bad. For those who have avoided this awful controller, it came with an ERR 9 for the unwary that needed a five step reset procedure. Unfortunately Lenz failed to insert this in the handbook.

So, armed with a bad experience, I was really anti-DCC until one day a nice lady at the Roco stand offered to show me the Roco MultiMaus - what a wonderful person. The main selling feature was glitch-free because it was designed for children to use, I bought a complete set of control from the nice lady at a bargain price of about $50 (ex boxed set) and I was sold.

The standard Roco set is a handheld, leads, transformer and CPU, it doesn't read CV's but I have never found to be an issue and 15 years later I still use the same outfit except the CPU has been replaced with a Lenz LZV100 but in reality, I didn't need to upgrade because I still use the old CPU for programming.

In Roco's case cheap isn't cheap, it is merely very well priced because it works period. No other needs to be made except it now runs my 1:45 trains (I started with HO) and I have looked at (and tried) systems that are four times the cost and I still stick with the MultiMaus.

Finally, when I first visited expos in Germany everyone ran Lenz and used their handhelds, now I see the little red handhelds everywhere.

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Maybe, I have lived in a cave for years, but when I was a kid, I had a really quite complicated train set or two and I had no track wiring at all. My dad fitted a couple of sidings with dead sections, operated by ex Post Office switch packs, but that was it. No point (turnout) wiring. I still wouldn't know how to wire a point, or see why I needed to.
Yet now we see spaghetti everywhere under the boards. And even the magical DCC which was supposed to stop track wiring (wasn't it?) seems to result in almost as much spaghetti.
For me, R/C is the obvious choice. Sound always sounds like a train set to me and smoke looks like Scotch mist, so both are grossly overblown. We have to accept that these are at best small models, at worst, toy trains. And so why burden ourselves with all the "must haves" just to do what others do?
Of course if you really understand all this stuff and actually DO genuinely like it, then you must go with it, but I reckon you are in a minority.

I would hate to think that some damned good potential modellers are not making models because they either aren't au fait with all the tricks or can't afford them.

I once helped a well known OO9 modeller operate his very large and well known layout and he had DCC on it. As he'd programmed it (I assume) it was just another knob to turn like any other and the DCC made almost no difference as there was never more than 2 locos on the layout anyway. It left me wondering ..."why?"

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