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 Posted: Wed Apr 17th, 2013 03:33 pm
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Here's the video I mentioned earlier of my Amtrak AMD-103 with the DT chip powered by 8-AAA NiMH batteries. I should have posted here first, since the subject is smoothness, I think nicely shown in the video. Several club members took turns operating the engine. They especially enjoyed it since the entire layout was down for re-wiring for DCC!  

This was a significant run in that the Walthers cars are steel weighted and the wheelsets ride in plastic grooves (no real bearings). So running with this load for 1-1/2 hours was significant for me. Using AAA Li-ion batteries will double the run time. Using AA Li-ion's, with a new frame, will double the run time once again. There's a LiPo in my future, if I can find the right shape.

So enjoy the video. Any questions, please ask. I really think RCC is here to stay. I'll definitely stay with it...

Dan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUwTYucn6u8

 

 

   

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 Posted: Wed Apr 17th, 2013 04:28 pm
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Hi Woody

I am fairly new to DCC operations right now, but thrilled at the thought of a radio controlled locomotive. A couple of questions however: 1. Did you kitbash, so to speak, your own RC locomotive or are there any commercial firms selling such conversions out there in retail land that I might look at or purchase? 2. If one has a DCC system already as I do [Power Cab] can that throttle be made to give the commands to the locomotive? I ask this because until finding "FreeRail" I thought they were completely separate systems, but apparently there is some mix between the two. Thanks for any help...

William

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 Posted: Wed Apr 17th, 2013 05:27 pm
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William,

Take a look at CVP's Airwire and NCE / QSI's GWire. Both can be used with existing decoders using the CVP receiver and a battery.

You will need the NCE GWire Pro Cab R which can be used as an extra cab with the Power Cab and then as the RC Cab as you switch over to RC.

You can also add a switch in the locomotive to allow it to run on both Track DCC and Radio DCC.

Not that DCC is the only answer, but if you like the way the Power Cab give you control over the locomotives, the GWire would be no learning curve.

Nathan

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Thank you for such a quick reply. As I said, I am very limited in understanding this subject. If I buy NCE's GWire Pro Cab R for control or transmitter functions where do I buy the receiver and battery that will be placed in the locomotive? I am not stuck on DCC by any means. If I just wanted to start from scratch, where would I purchase a transmitter and receiver/battery combination. And, would I put it together myself or are there other means of getting it accomplished? Again, excuse the ignorance, but I am trying...
William

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 Posted: Wed Apr 17th, 2013 06:41 pm
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William, I have a pretty simplistic approach and it is less expensive than others. I know how to program and set up DCC in locos but don't have DCC myself, prefering to run completely wireless, except for the wiring inside a loco. No, there are NO RTR r/c locos now, you would have to convert one to radio. And on that subject, I have written umpeen thousand times to use a great running locomotive for your first. Many have thought that they could make a lousy loco into a winner with r/c...nope, you will have a lousy wireless loco! If you check out all the info and systems presented in this forum, you will have all the information that is available...anywhere on the net. You need to decide what you want, sophisticated controls and perhaps sound or do you just want to run trains without problems or wiring? Your choice. I am sure that there will be other opinions about what to do but I will give mine. For 80 bucks or so, you can buy a LOSI MICRO T r/c car and get everything you need in one package and it all works right. You just need to take out the car's board and install it in the locomotive. Batteries are another choice, everyone has their favorites. The LOSI car comes with a nice little NIMH (Nickel Metal Hydrate) battery which will work until you get some experience. There are plenty of threads here about this, just search around. We were/are all ignorant, you are on the right track so you are no longer ignorant. Write with your questions, we're here to help.

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 Posted: Wed Apr 17th, 2013 06:54 pm
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Bill,

Welcome to the site!

I don’t know how adept you are at soldering, circuit design, etc. You might look at Ring, Tam Valley, NWSL, and deltang:

http://www.ringengineering.com/
http://www.tamvalleyrr.com/home.html
http://nwsl.com/S-CAB_Radio_DCC_Control.html
http://www.deltang.co.uk/index.htm

I am not familiar with Air?? that has been mentioned. Check them out, too.

This is the site to monitor to keep up with RC developments, as best I can tell.

Tom

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William,

CVP has a receiver and some batteries:
http://cvpusa.com/airwire_system.php

Both CVP and QSI have receiver/decoder combinations.
http://qsisolutions.com/products/q-gwire.html

Nathan

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Thanks for all that info Woodie. How do you rate Atlas locomotives as to their quality? On my N gauge layout I use Kato engines and have had no problems, but have been told Atlas in pretty good also. Any others you think would fill the bill?

Thans Again
Bill

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 Posted: Thu Apr 18th, 2013 03:57 pm
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Thank you for those leads to look into. That's the kind of help I need.

Bill

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 Posted: Thu Apr 18th, 2013 04:50 pm
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Bill-Atlas makes nice N scale locos although I don't model in N or get into diesels. At the moment, there are some tiny r/c receivers available which might fit, batteries are another problem. There is the option of tiny batteries onboard but they need to be recharged through the rails, totally blowing the idea of no wiring. It might as well be DCC or DC operation. Soon (I hope), battery technology will allow tiny, high power batteries to be available but that is later. If I were into N, I think that I would be running with DC, DCC is not what I like...too much info needs to be learned before you can run a train! Just my opinion.

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