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 Posted: Thu Mar 2nd, 2017 03:10 am
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Hi all,

A top of the hill scenery update, from this: 



through this..


   

to this, where a line of loaded coal skips await their turn to go down the Incline with the brakehouse rising behind in the background.



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 Posted: Thu Mar 2nd, 2017 12:24 pm
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Hi John, nice job on the finished scenery I don't think my modules turn out like that has, pure awesome. Have a couple of questions how did you bend the track on top of the slope like that I had a go once at bending HO scale Peko track just broke, and what is the hinge used for on the leg to hold it in place under the module

I started nailing down track yesterday afternoon  on my layout one module done.

Tony from QLD down under

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 Posted: Thu Mar 2nd, 2017 01:21 pm
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Hi Tony 
these vertical curves are "pushing the ragged edge of the envelope". We can get away with vertical curves this tight because we are running short wheelbase coal skips one skip at a time over these vertical curves. 
For these vertical curves you cut through the foot and vertical web of the rail, leaving only the head of the rail intact. For the tight vertical curves we have on the incline, both at the top and bottom, you need to cut the rail foot and web for the full length of the vertical curve at about 1/4" or 6 mm spacing. The exact spacing isn't that critical, but you need enough cuts to allow the rail head to bend rather than form a series of kinks 

As you come off the grade onto the flat at the top of the hill, the cut gaps will close, but at the bottom of the hill  the gaps will open up slightly. 

As far as the hinges go, these are used to ensure that everything lines up every time. You need a hinge that can have the pin punched out. This enables the two halves of the hinge to be separated. It is important that you get hinges that have no slack in the pins when flexed. These hinges are just over 75mm long. The next photo shows one of the hinges holding 2 modules together but with the pin nor fully pushed home. This makes getting the pin out easier but all segments of the hinge have pin in them and the hinge cannot flex 


How to do it - clamp your 2 modules together making sure your alignment is correct, then fasten the hinge to both modules while the pin is in place. Do this on BOTH sides of the module joint BEFORE doing the next step. Remove the clamps, punch the pins and you should be able to separate the modules. When the modules are put back together, the hinge ensures positive X Y and Z axis alignment. This ensures that the rails jumping the module joint also go back in the same spot relative to each other. 

The hinges must be securely attached enough to each module that there no movement between the hinge and the module that each half of the hinge is attached to. Any movement between the hinge parts and the module means that the modules can go back in a different spot relative to each other. 

CAUTION - ideally you want a solid pin (preferably brass)  The last lot of hinges we got from Bunnings have a steel pin with a brass sleeve crimped to the pin. We have had several cases where the sleeve has been left behind in the hinge when the pin was pulled, I would suggest talking to something like a kitchen place/shopfitter rather than Bunnings or similar to get a better class of hinge that will avoid this problem.

I hope that this gives you some ideas 



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 Posted: Thu Mar 2nd, 2017 11:01 pm
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Morning John, thanks that is what I should of done cut under the rail, you quite often see that when coming off a grade, what I was trying archive and there is a fly over in NSW where the some thing was in the middle of a bridge.
Hump yards are like that how I would like to have one a lot of fun making up trains like the real thing, nice to dream, what I am lacking at the moment is a main yard.
I did the  same thing on one of my module layout but only used 2 inch hinges, you are right on took me some time to find the right size pin to fit the hinge and was a big effort drilling out the hinges pin did work ok,, needed a bigger one.
How is the weather you end of OZ it is perfect here making the most of it outside warming up again from Sunday.
Keep the pics and great work coming, love it, can get great ideas on my layout.
Tony from QLD down under

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Hi John :wave:


Nice scenery ! :bg:


John explained the rail-cutting for the 'roller-coaster' sections ;) on the dog & bone to me...


...makes sense to avoid the 'kinks' as is said.


Temp. variations as well ... PHEW ! ... I thought we had it HOT sometimes ! ;)


Lookin' good John ! :bg:


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Hi Tony,

The nearest thing I can think of with grade and route changes with bridges is the flying junction on the Suburban lines between Sydney Central and Redfern 

Have a look at https://www.google.com.au/maps/place/Central/@-33.8876712,151.2022692,569m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x55e79b4a664d3471!8m2!3d-33.8826209!4d151.2065819 You may have to go to Street View and stand on the bridge at Cleveland Street to get a better idea of which track goes where. You are looking at the tracks to Platforms 17 to 23 which are the through lines to the underground to the East of the Country terminus (main building) 


Streetview link - https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-33.8888028,151.2016293,3a,15y,45.76h,88.11t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTFKMWhh6mkGEAV_q_ygyLQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

That should keep you occupied for a bit next time it is too unpleasant to work outside. ;)



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Hi all, 
a minor update - the main mine entrance is in and the hill behind it has been "sandstoned" with textured paint 


First up, the Mine 2 module with the mine entrances and trestles to the powerhouse coal dump at frontP1240144a by oztrainz, on Flickr


A closer look at the mine entrances. The white spots are where the lamphouse goes in at the left and weigh cabin goes in at the right,P1240145a by oztrainz, on Flickr


and what the sandstone looks like after some "weathering"P1240148a by oztrainz, on Flickr
The area around the mine entrances grew some greenery yesterday, 



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Hi all,

Another sign of the times..

P1240452a by oztrainz, on Flickr


Made by Group member Geoff Potter. It comes pre-weathered as the modelling period is about 20 years after the original sign was writ way back in 1902,

The layout survived its +1000 km journey to the Australian Narrow Gauge Convention, at Geelong.  At present we have skips running between the mine and the incline top with skip running on the incline. Running coal starts later today...:2t:  



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WONDERFUL! There ain't enough Moosies for me. Excellent and very groovy!

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