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I've been working for a while now on my H0 scale layout. It is L-shaped. The size is about 9'9" by 6'2" include a module with sidings. The modules (5 of them) are 22" deep.

The trackplan is kept simple cause of the limited space and the slow progress.









As you can see, there is still a long way to go.

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Nice pure 'n white ...

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Milocomarty wrote: Nice pure 'n white ...
Yep, the same as the 3 months of snow last winter. Only difference, the snow was not nice....

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Hi Alwin

The snow here, across the water; was a killer last year...
...jees, used to think it was 'fun' as a kid !

Looks 'cool' Alwin...
...I see where your nice buildings are headin' for.

Do you have a track-plan; even just a scribble ?
I can't work it out from the pics.

I have a similar space; which could be about a 7'x5' L-shape with 24"ish wide boards.
Am scribbling myself at the moment !

It looks hilly Alwin...
...obviously not modelled on your local area I guess !!!

Cheers

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Hi Si,

Thanks. I do have a track plan. I first made some skretches by hand but on a layout I made a couple years back (never finished it) I had some problems with the curves. They were too tight and a shay I have couldn't run through.
So I also made a cad drawing to see if the plans from the sketches were even possible. No. I changed things and keep it simple to make sure that everything 'works'.

Here is the trackplan. Buildings and trees are just suggestive.



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Interesting.

I'm guessing that two different gauges are involved?


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Thanks Alwin ...
... a picy says 1000 words !

I'm guessin' with Herb ...
( a dog's intuition ! )
... perhaps an HOn3 track; feeding the ore-bins.

Cheers

Si.

P.S. Good to be carefull on the radius's ...
... I see Martin in On30, ripped up loads of stuff ...
... to go from 22" to 24" ...
... flippin' Forney !!!

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Sorry for the late reaction, had a little holiday break.

You guys are almost right. There are 2 gauges. But it's not H0n3 but H0n2.5 (9mm gauge) what feeds the ore bin.

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Finally an update here. I've finished the plaster work recently. Ans I've been busy with coloring the rocks of the first module. I still have to apply the east indian ink and maybe more brown/red in some area's.







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Quick update. I added a layer of east indian ink. Don't if it's vissible in the pics.







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Wasn't happy with the first colors. Not what I wanted. So I redid some area's with a litlle bit more red/brown colors. But I screwed up and one spot was way to red :bang:.



Also I thought that there was too much variation in colors. So again I redid some and this is where it is now (see picture below). I like this much better.



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What r we Mining??? If n its IRON ore yer fine if its Copper, your still OK..If its Gold, then yea maybe too much red tint.,, t, the good news is this...once you add a scattering of greenery ( Ground covers and trash etc it all kinda blends and tones down the hightones..you would be surprised...its pretty hard to screw up rock unless you plan on it all being BARE ROCK in which case practice practice practice ( its also how you get awarded the good ol MMR status, the dream of every model railroader...the benefits of this of course wont get you a cup of coffee, however you r entitled to get a custom license plate that says MMR 4 ME..:rah::rah::rah: OK Carry On!!:Salute:

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Todd, thanks for your reaction. What are we mining? Let's say it's iron, but never realy thougt of that... :bg:

Meanwhile I finished the rock painting. Don't pay too much attention on the yellow color on the flat area's. The ground cover still has to come.







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Hi Alwin

Looks like your gettin' there.

I dunno what lighting you have...
...but...
...I just bought a 500 Watt halogen-light...
...Outdoor-type, in an aluminium casing.

It was about £3 / $5 no kidding; spare bulbs $1.

Bounced off the ceiling; it gives a pretty good 'white' light.
Great for seeing colour 'correctly' (Mmmm.)
An exellent referance.

Cheap & usefull kit.
Thought I would mention it...
...good for photography too.

All the best.

Cheers

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Been busy with the bridge. Where it has to come is a trestle not possible so I choose for a truss bridge. I still have to do  a paintjob on many parts but here are some photo's, not on the layout but they show the progress on the bridge.

An overview:


And a detail:


BTW Si: sorry for the late reaction, but I used led strips in the photo's I posted earlier. Wasn't happy with that so I have some new ones now, with smd 5050 leds this time. It's much better.
I have some problems with the installation of the backdrop but when that's done I post some new pics.

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Hi Alwin

No rush ! ... If the railroad 'mixed-train' don't get in till next week...
...none o' the locals are gonna bat an eyelid !!

Fantastic bridge Alwin.
I love 'em all ... but the look of a train going 'through' a nice truss; takes some beating !

Good to hear about the lights Alwin.
I just use the 500 Watt halogen for photos realy.
I dunno how you could 'permanently' light a layout with one...
...probably can't.
The LED's sound good, if they are bright enough.

Woodie has the best layout lighting...
...and he didn't even pay for it; or gets a monthly bill.
Smart ! (a$$)

Looks like the KM&RC is gonna be shipping some serious tonnage pretty soon !
Can't wait !

All the best.

Cheers

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Finished the painting on the bridge. I have to assemble it on the layout so that's gonna take some time.
Someone has a good idea how to glue all those ties to the rails? The flextrack is already installed on the layout. I see two "problems" to do that job. First: the ties have to be lined up between the trusses, second: the original ties from the flex track are still in place and I can't remove them all at once. L:

Here are some photo's of the bridge so far, only the trusses are glued together jet. The tankcar is some European model I had lying around. It's just for getting an idea of the dimensions.







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:moose::moose::moose::moose::old dude:
loose rail put thin layer of hot glue on bottom put in place then heat rail or use acc and clamp

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Charles, thanks for your reaction.
I keep in mind your hot glue option, I didn't thought of that. I think acc dries to fast. Personally I was thinking of using PU glue what gives me a longer processing time and a misplacing is easier to restore.

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Alwin, here's another plan. Coat the bottom of the rails with PLIOBOND or GOO (contact cement) and let it dry. Then while using some track gauges to hold the rails in gauge, carefully run a hot soldering iron on the top of the rails. This will soften the glue and then when it cools (almost instantly), the rails will be held in place. If there is a gauge problem or expansion occurs, just do this operation again. I suggest trying it first with scrap rail on scrap wood/ties to get it down. How old is this idea? It was being used in the early 1960's to hold code 40 rail down in HOn3 since spikes at the time were too big. An old idea that works well and may help you here.

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Some progress shots of the layout. The background is installed, extra lights are on and the bridge is nearly finished. Only thing to do on the bridge are the abutments.

I've put some buildings temporarily in place to see home it looks.











I know it's already almost over, but still a merry Christmas to everyone.

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Hi Alwin,
It looks like you've made a lot of good progress on your railroad in a very short period of time. It looks good.

However, there is one thing that I thought I would mention in regards to your bridge. I've built Howe truss bridges so when I saw your bridge it didn't look quite "right" to me. Apart from the actual "truss",  which I know is still under construction and seems to be missing some diagonal parts, the timbers that support the track are a bit different than I'm used to seeing. Maybe at this point a picture would explain more clearly than words.

Here is a photo of a bridge I scratch built in about 1968; it's still hanging in there (so to speak). You can see there are cross-wise timbers that sit on top of the bottom chords of the trusses and they support the track stringers.

Here's a link to a commercially available bridge that shows the same support structure. Now these will pass when examined by a building inspector.
http://www.victorianweb.org/cv/models/apg/rrstructures/11b.html

All that being said, it looks you've still made more progress toward completing your railroad, scenery all all, than I've have in the last 40 odd years at this.

regards,
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Not when it is being done in a non-critical manner, to help another modeler to achieve greater realism, as you did Dennis.

While the number of rivets across the bottom of a tender would not be correct for a certain prototype, they would have little or no effect on the workings or usage of a real tender.

Critical pieces missing from a bridge would be an entirely different matter.

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Hi Dennis,

Thanks for you comment but what you said is not quite right. Before I've build this bridge I did some research on truss bridges.
Many truss bridges have a complete cross but that's not necessary. There are also may bridges with only one of the two diagonals of the cross.
Depending on the direction, / or \ , the diagonals are under tension or under pressure.
See also the bridge in this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WaggaWaggaBridgeOverMurrumbidgee.jpg

On the second part  of your comment you say that the support of the track stringers is not right. But also that can be done in different ways, see the following link:
http://www.downtheroad.org/NewZealand/imagesBBB/Winky/IMG_1100.jpg

What I do miss are some diagonals from the side of the truss to the truss to prevent the truss form falling. This can happen when a sideways force is on the truss, like wind or a not perfectly vertical placed truss.

I hope this explains my design of the bridge a little.

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Hi Alwin

Nice work !!!!!

Cheers

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A friend of mine worked on the Wagga Wagga Daily Advertiser for a while.

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Hi Alwin,
Well, I guess my eyes are just a bit too provincial when they attempt to make off-hand evaluations of truss bridge structures.

Honestly, I had not been aware of the Allen truss, although after Googling it, I see that it is a variation developed from the Howe truss. (Also from the web, it is my impression that the Allen truss was primarily used on roads, but I could easily have gotten that wrong.) In my comments I was specifically referencing the Howe truss, and when I said your bridge "didn't look quite 'right' to me" and that "the timbers that support the track are a bit different than I'm used to seeing", those are actual facts based on my experience with the Howe truss bridges. Please excuse my ignorance.

Thanks for the explanation. Keep up the good work.

Regards,
Dennis aka JawboneFlats

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Think that will be a spectaculair scene when done Alwin !

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Thanks guys.

Dennis, no problem. During my research over the internet I found some more truss bridge types. Some only for steel as building material others also can be made of wood.
I also found some Allen truss bridges wich are used for railroading like this one:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/42pix/573428853/in/photostream/
But you're right, most railroad truss bridges are Howe trusses.

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Finally an update. I've been working on the scenery of one of the modules lately. Added some stones and also the first grasses and bushes. The bushes is a bit trial and error on some different techniques, not all are giving the results that I want.







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Hi Alwin

Lookin' good !

Nice colours.

Looks like the LED's are the biz !

That last close up looks like 1:1 to me !

Cheers

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Thanks Si.

Some more bushes and trees added and grass done on the next part. Doing some scenery stuff is more fun on this moment for me then building the orecars, so that project has to wait for a while.







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A slowly progress, but it's still fun. Some bushes / litlle trees placed and done some extra groundfoam and turf to simulate litlle plants and moos.




Need some more bushes and trees in this area.


Close-up shot of the moos (fine turf) and little vegetation (groundfoam).


Another close-up.


Last an overall view of the "green" area.

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Trees look very good but the grass work is exceptional!!

Now that youve added the greenery the rock color seems kinda bright...some grey washes might help...Might just be lighting too hard to tell sometimes with Photos :)

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Thanks Todd.

I think the colors on the photo's are pretty close to the real thing. They are indeed a bit bright. I've already done some east indian ink washes. Maybe I need to do one or two more. But I don't want the colors to dark either. Hmmm L: , we'll see.

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Time for an update. Finished the first area with greenery. Also made a start with the next part, the mining area. Still a lot to do overthere.



















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Made some progress today with the grasses in the mining area. Also the ramp for the orecars is in place. It only needs some new paint on some spots. The metal chute to the orebin is not working ate the moment. The first part closest to the track is almost flat, the stone just fall on it and don't roll to the bin. I need to make a new one.

Some progress shots:










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That looks really good Alwin. I particularly like the excellent perspective effect that you have made between the "real" scenery & the mountain back-scene - you cannot see the join between the two. Great grass effect. Nice truss bridge. The rock colour is perhaps slightly too bright but not untypical of a non-granite heavily mineralised mining district.

All in only about 1 year !!


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Thanks Michael.
The rock colour is indeed a bit bright. I've tried to soften it a bit with an extra east-indian ink wash but I can barely see the result. I don't want to ruin everything with a too heavy wash so I keep it this way.

Maybe you're not the quickest modeller but me neither. The grass stuff is going quick, the bushes and trees take a bit more time.
As long as we are having fun it doesn't matter.

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Not much done on the layout lately. But I made a few stuff for the mining area. An wheelbarrow with a spoked wheel and some old and broken strut wood.

Photo's with a ruler for the size.





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The next one done. This time with a drum to get leaking water out of the mine. Even more rust then ont the wheelbarrow.
Design of the "drum truck" is not completely right. The prototype has a kind of free swinging arm to a plate with a standing edge under the drum (you can see the edge on my model). The drum is standing loose on that plate.

The model is about 1" long.




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Hi Alwin

Love the scenery.

That's some nice modelling for and around the mine.

Cheers Dan

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Made some bushes around the mine area and also a small stairway to the orebin.







And an overall shot:


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Naizzzzz !

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Thanks Martin.

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Nice work Alwin !

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Thanks Si.

Couple more bushes / trees and put the details in place and a few workers. Details are not glued in yet so it could be that the positions change a bit but I like it for now.

I think the area in front of the boiler needs some black to simulate the ash. Also needed is a place for the fuel (wood or coal).











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A few more trees and bushes added. I like the scenery of this part more than what I did on the hill / mountain, so I'm thinking of redoing that area.











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A bit more done.







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A bit better photo's this time (I used the advice of Joey and buyed a little tripod) and some details added.









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DAVID BAILEY ! ( who's he ? )

Fab fotos Alwin !

You were lucky to get a tripod...

...most of the worlds supply is shipped to Texas.

The backscene looks great.

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That is looking really good Alwin, especially the wheelbarrow & the wheelbarrow water carrier. I saw something like that in a UK museum of mining equipment years ago but I cannot remember how the barrel was emptied.

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Thanks guys.

Michael: The photo I used as example is of a pour quality. But I think the barrel is not attached the the wheelbarrowframe.

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-18995395/stock-photo-old-mining-equipment-san-bernardino-california.html


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I think you are correct Alwin. I seem to remember that the barrel was only locked into lifting position where the wheelbarrow handles narrowed together towards the wheel mounting.

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Made some progress on the scenery. More green is in and I re-painted some rocks a bit.



The rock formation in the front is wich I repainted.






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Very vandabidosy vegetation !

Its looking great Alwin.

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I agree with Si

Definitely top notch!


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Thanks guys!

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Time for an update. I didn't like the scenery on the first part, above the mine. So I took away the bigger trees and bushes and replaced them with some better looking ones. No trees anymore in this area, I think it looks better this way.
Also added some flowers.

I have to work on the area left of this but after that I can carry on.









And a bit a fake shot. The blurry tree in the foreground is just standing in a piece of foam, waiting to be planted somewhere on the layout. But I think it's a nice shot.


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Have done some more work on the scenery.







A detail of the ground vegetation:


And an overview:



And a bonus. This is one of my first scratch-building projects which turned out well. It needs some update, the walls are a bit warped, some more details, but I think it is still usable.





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Hi Alwin.

Gorgeous greenery as usual !

I like your 'fake' blurry tree shot...

...who says you can't do that; think HOLLYWOOD BABY !

The general store looks great.

I've had some 'wall warp' & boxcar-door warp before.

If the board-cladding is layed onto card or thin ply...

...priming both sides first, with dilute PVA glue, has worked for me.

Bit like only painting 1 side of wood things...

...can be BANANA TIME !

Totaly love the 'vastness' of your scenic-space...

...very 'real world'.

Ta ta fer now.

Cheers.

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Thanks Si.

The board is on very thin cardboard. That is indeed the reason for the warping. But with with some heavier peaces of wood on the inside I can fix that issue.

I made the building about 15 years back. At that time I didn't have much experience in scratch building and also didn't want to waste material (money) on a proper constructionbase.

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Have changed the general store. The warping is gone, the loading and storage dock has a new look and I have added and changed some details. See the previous page for the old state.





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Looks really good Alwin.

Are the fruit n veg scratch built or casting?

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Thanks Daniel,

The red ones on the left are apples from some cheap modeltree. The middle three are just small pieces of foam. The stuff on the right are very tiny strips of wood from a plant out the garden. I can't remember wich species it was, too long ago.
I think you can also use seeds from flowers or weeds. Maybe you have to paint those however.

Alwin

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Hi Alwin.

I hope the Pepsi is cold...

...or I aint stopping there again !

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Wow, really.

Crazy how just simple little items are so useful to represent something when modelling. Just need to remember these things when I come to detailing mine.

cheers Dan

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Long time ago I posted something here. Still not much done on the layout but I have build some freightcars. The unpainted flatcar is a Tichy kit wich I build a year ago. The one to the front is build from wood and some leftovers.
I forgot the coupler pockets but I can fix that. The trucks are uninstalled and needs some paint first. Also a break wheel has to be added.




Oh, and a happy 2017 to everyone!

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just finished reading your posts, nice lay out you have
your flat is looking good, specialy the one with the real wood.
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Thanks Cor.

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Hi Alwin :wave:

Nice work on the new car builds !

Good to see some more stuff for Krampton Mining.

Have you got any more new cars in mind for the layout ?

Whats next ?

Krampton fans need to know ! :bg:

:moose:

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I'm BAD ... Bought a couple of HO things the other day.

I swore I'd quite RUBBERGAUGEING ! ;)

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Well, I haven't done much lately. For a while I am building this tankcar. Made of spareparts and an old tankcar. The only thing usefull of the old tankcar was the tank itself, and even that needed a lot of work. The dome is from an N-scale tankcar, I used the end of the tank.

The model is slightly based on this:
https://rgsmodeler.com/the-prototype/#jp-carousel-74
But in the end it turned out very different.






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Look forward to seeing the finished tanker Alwin.
cheers
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looking goodi have them in 0n3 from SJ, if you need some mesurements.or more pictures?Cor

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Thanks guys.

Cor, thanks for the offer but that won't be necessary. There is an article of the tankcar in the july 1978 NGSG issue that include some drawings. I have the dvd.

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Wow, what a wonderful project you have going here Alwin.

The greenery is incredibly well done, and I'm liking the scratchbuilding and kitbashing you've been doing.

Very nice indeed.

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Made two tractors from a Woodland Scenics kit. A John Deere model A (right) and a model D (left). The package contained two model A kits. The model A is built without any changes.

I don't see the fun of two the same tractor models so I changed the second kit to a model D. The engine and tank is shortened. The steering build from scratch. The exhaust changed position. The rear wheels are placed further back. And some mudgaurds and the platform for the driver are made.
It only needs some additional paint.

Not sure if I going to wheater these or leave them this way and make a tractor store who sells them as new.










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I had a white metal kit of a Best 60 (or CAT) dozer. Construction was ok although some parts were not included (cable, some handles and the two pins for the attachement of the blade to the tracks). Personally I think all parts needed to build a kit should be included.

I wheatered it like it is used but not old or rusty.







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Also some work on the layout is done. Last year I poured in some water in the river. I found some stuff on the material which looked really nice. But once I used it the results were disappointing. I used some angelhair kinda stuff, but it ws everywere except in the places were I wanted it. Also some stuff for making waves (that is also the name of the product, "making waves"), but that turned out to white and to course.

So I was not satisfied with the results and decided to do it all over.
I painted the old water grey/black. Made some new rocks. Added some moss. Poured in the water. It is a 2 components resin.
Dry brushed some white paint for the foam.

After that I started with the greens on one side. The other side has still to be done.


Just the water.


Same place, the white paint added.






The first greenery in place.


Same location as first photo, now with some green.








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That is a really nice result.  It feels fast running.  Good job!

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Excellent result Alwin, it looks quite "mobile" and the rocks are a great way to set the water off. I used resin for Updah's creek and learned very quickly that you need to ensure that the bed is sealed first as the resin eats through any foam that it contacts with alarming speed!

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Hi Alwin :wave:



WOW ! :shocked:

I just love that lil' ol' SIXTY ! :thumb:

Aint she a cutey !! :P





:old dude: BEST TRACTORS THEY EVER MADE SONNY !


The water looks great Alwin.

Love the froth & 'rapids' effects.

Nice greenery.

AWESOME under the bridge photos.

Your layout DOES have a really 'vertical' scenery feel to it.

NICE !



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I'd be grabbing my Wellington-boots ...

... that water just looks SO real ! :shocked:

Does the baseboard-edge 'waterfall' leave a pool on the floor ? ;)




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Thanks guys.

Doug, I knew that the resin needed a sealed bed, so I used a layer of latex (wallpaint) to achieve that. 

Si, actually there is some water on the floor. But I had some newspaper there, so not a big issue. 
Also I had made some small dams for compartments, also on the baseboard edge, so the water was not running down immediately.

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This summer I wanted a project were I could work on outside. Something with wood was the easiest. If a piece was blown away I could simply cut a new one.

I decided to build a cattle car. Not that I really need one but it gave me something to do.

So here it is. Besides of the trucks and couplers it is completely scratch built. Only thing left to do is give the couplers some weathering.



























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" If a piece was blown away I could simply cut a new one "



Hi Alwin  :wave:



GREAT lookin' cattle car !  :moose: :moose: :moose: :moose: :moose:

( watch out for the antlers !! )  ;)



HIGH WIND !  :shocked:  ... Just what you DON'T want, if assembling plastic model kits outside.  :P



What kind of wood were you using Alwin ?  ???





The woodgrain in the close-up looks really  C :cool: :cool: L.



I'm always looking for nicely grained wood to use for models.  L:



What did you use for staining or painting the wood & weathering the car ?  ???



Nice to see the latest at Krampton Mining ...

... I guess the miners eat a lot of steaks & burgers !  :cb:



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Hi Si,


Not sure about the wood. I have a few different types, depending on what is available in the right size.


Best guess: abachi wood for the planks and beech for the underframe.


The grain looks good in the photo but remember that this is 1:87. 
When I look at the wood that I have laying around then I think that it is not course enough for what you want.


So the painting. I used watercolor. 
Some brown, some black and that toned with a bit of white. Dilute it with plenty of water so that the wood don't become too black.
After that dried the wheatering is done with powder. A kind of dust color.


The roof is made of filling paper with came with a package. The structure is nice. 
I mixed some glue (original tacky glue) with some black watercolor and water on some hard flat plastic. 
Insert one strip each time and dab dry immediately (on a tissue/ kitchen paper) so that some of the paint mixture goes out. 
That gave the effect of old tarpaper.


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Love the layout, your attention to details is great :)
Can you let me know the brand of the sixty kit? I ve been looking for one...found a woodland scenic kit, but not the sixty ;)
thanks!
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That really is a superb cattle truck Alwin.

I presume the "dusty" lower areas represents the dried limewash used to disinfect such vehicles,
well, at least that was the case in the UK in the early 20th century although I think a true disinfectant began to be used in the late 1920s.

Anyway, whatever the cause it's a first class effect.


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WE LOVE THOSE SWINGIN' SIXTIES !  :cool:



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Thanks guys.

@ Robin: It is a Rio Grande Models kit which you can find here:http://www.riograndemodels.com/HO.htm#Parts
I have also a Holt model 75 but that is still in the box and contains a lot more parts than the sixty.

It are nice models if you take the time for assembly. The manual is poor so try to fit the parts dry before you glue it down. That saved me a few times.

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Thanks for the info Alwin!
Nice site , I will order a version

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I started a new tankcar project but I have my doubts. 

I planned to make my own wood beam trucks, already started one, but they are more work then I expected. 
Also not sure how well they will run when finished. 
Anyone has experience with making their own trucks? 
Is it an "Yes you can do it" or "better not..."?

Also the height of the tankcar worries me a bit. 
Maybe I can lower it a bit by filing away some parts of the frame.
But will it look acceptable?

So, a lot of doubts.

Here are some photo's with my other (unfinished) tankcars.















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Hi Alwin  :wave:



The cars are looking good.  :thumb:

Perhaps a few adjustments, as you say.  ???


When I'm building a car, I start with the 'givens'.  :brill:

Loading gauge.

Coupler height.

Wheel diameter. ( a few possibilities here & obviously this affects the above ^^ particularly coupler height )

Width.

Length.



Coupler height is really the 'biggie' followed by loading gauge.  L:

I have still come up with some oDd looking things though.  :shocked:



Including a couple of tank cars that do look a bit high, but smaller narrow gauge tank cars DO tend to look a bit high ...

... larger N.G. cars or standard gauge cars, tend to be 'low slung' as a centre of gravity thing I guess.  L:



Mmm ...  :P

... not sure that helps or says anything you don't already know ? ...

... you could investigate the possibility of smaller HO wheelsets, which are available & used on some stuff.

I have now got a small range of about 4 different sizes for my building, which DOES make a significant difference to appearance.  :cool:



The D.I.Y. trucks B.T.W. Alwin look like a STELLA  :s:  go at building something darn tricky !

A ton of Mooses to you for even doing it !  :moose: :moose: :moose: :moose: :moose:

I might have to have a go myself, but meanwhile my diecast modded ones keep me busy enough as it is !  :f:



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A little progress on the new tankcar. The construction of the trucks is finaly done. :glad:

The first has the metal parts painted grey.

The tankcar frame is now lower on the trucks. 
I was also able to lower the tank in the frame a bit. 
So all parts are a bit lower now and come out better with the other cars.

Here are some photo's.























I ordered some longer screws to connect the trucks to the frame. 
It is waiting for that before I can continue with details to the car. 
The tank needs some work to. 

I will try to wrap it in aluminium foil with the rivets pressed in. 
I want to use the curio for that. 
Not sure how that's gonna work out.


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WOW!  :hyp:

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Thanks Steven.

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Hi Alwin  :wave:



Looks  C :cool: :cool: L  !


Lowering a bit has payed off.  :thumb:


Not lowered by much ... But ... That lil' much, makes a BIG difference I.M.O.  L:


I like your car builds dude !  :)



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Some paint here, some rust there.






















No great photography but you get the idea.

Inspiration for this car is this:

http://www.spnghs.org/archive/picture.php?/188/category/5

I've got some more links if somebody is interested.

Alwin



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Some more details applied. 

The handrails is hard to make but even harder to glue on the car. 

The one on the other side has still to be made. 

The space between the tank and the handrails is exctaly to small but that is something I can't change.

















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The tankcar is finished.
I also painted one of my previous build tankcars.

The tank was wrapped with aluminium foil which I embossed with the Curio.
It took about half an hour to make all the rivets, but I can sit back an relax.
The pattern was quickly made in Autocad.

The painting was a bit of a tryout of different techniques.
I think painting is not my speciality... I need to practice a bit more on the rust.
It did not came out the way I wanted but it is ok.






























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I like your weathering job. 

A bit on the subtle side which is just fine. 

Shows years of use without being completely beaten up.



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Hi Alwin  :wave:



:pimp: :pimp: :pimp: :pimp: :pimp:



AWESOME ! tank car dude !!  :thumb:

& all the rest ... of course !  :bg:



The cars look GREAT in your really 'growing' scenery.  :P

The car builds are turning out real nice ...  C :cool: :cool: L  weathering & RUST !  :old dude:



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Thanks guys!


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