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 Posted: Thu Feb 13th, 2014 08:16 pm
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Hi James,

You've clearly been thinking this through in a logical manner. I like your ideas of complimentary scenery colours & the neutral ground with receding scenic features towards the end of each module.

There used to be a couple of module based layouts on the English Exhibition circuit where each 'unit' was built by a different person or Club. Despite the compatible track centres etc. at the end of each module there was always a strange sudden shift of scenery & modelling style between each module. The inevitable "over-bridge out of nowhere" or the 6" long tunnel to separate each module simply doesn't work from what I have seen.

I have seen a few (very few) shadow box style individual self contained dioramas/modules  but I am not aware of anybody doing a connected series of shadow boxes - potentially a very interesting concept.

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 Posted: Fri Feb 14th, 2014 01:12 am
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There's a type of shadow box micro layout that used APA boxes. I have no idea what APA stands for, but it apparently worked quite well to have small modules about 3 feet long and 16" deep, even for larger scales like On30. There's a man who lived near where I used to live in Minnesota. Others may have seen his name around, Ian Holmes. He's often credited with starting the APA style "micro" layouts.

So if there is anything, or anyone, I can credit with the idea, it would be him. Also, the late Carl Arendt was a big supporter of micro layouts, and I'm designing this F scale layout to essentially be an over-sized micro. Nothing complicated, but hopefully professional looking and interesting.

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I now have made a track plan for the first three modules.

I decided to go with the end of the line at the Highmore Mine (name subject to change). It consists of one turnout, a snow shed, and a creek crossing. Being near the top of the valley, the creek is nothing more than an intermediate trickle of water. The snow shed, also being so far up the mountain will be fully enclosed. This will provide me with a hidden fiddle yard. There will also be a small station and a freight dock for unloading supplies for both the mine, and the camp. I have one LGB combine which will be the main passenger car until the layout expands in the future. The combine is my biggest car, and so I'm designing spur lengths around it.

The track plan is known as a"tuning fork." It's simple, but very effective for small layouts. The interest of a railroad is not determined by the number of turnouts, but rather by the needs of the industries the railroad serves.

I've kept the width of the modules to 30" for easy access. Using that measurement, all of my modules will be built in multiples of 30". So I will have 30", 60", and 90" module lengths. This will allow me to interchange modules more easily as the railroad grows. The track will also be placed along the center line of the module like Free-mo. This design allows equal scenery in front of and behind the ROW, which will hopefully give some depth to the scenes being modeled. I will still have about 12" of space on each side of the ROW for buildings. In F scale that isn't much, but I can use plenty of relief structures to give me more space.

The plan is starting to come together. Now I've got to start stashing cash to get ready for the three big buys this spring: Track, lumber, and the much needed RR cars (most of my rolling stock currently is old LGB that looks more European than American)

Locomotives have already been taken care of. I have a Bachmann Porter and the D&RGW side rod diesel #50, which the prototype is currently in the Colorado Railroad Museum in Golden.

I plan to commence the kitbashing of several Bachmann Bobber cabeese, which I've had my eye on from an online site, as soon as college lets out May 10th. Lumber and track will be bought at about that time. My resource for track is switchcrafters.com. I'm either getting brass rail, or I'm going with code 215 aluminum. I think indoors aluminum will be adequate, but brass has been tried and true outdoors.

And before I forget, here is my track plan concept:



One module is 60 inches, another is 90 inches, and the third is 30 inches in length, resulting in a total 180 inch by 30 inch layout. Sounds pretty big, but remember, that is only 10 inches by 60 inches in HO scale. Definitely a large scale micro!

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 Posted: Sat Feb 15th, 2014 06:28 pm
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jtrain wrote: There's a type of shadow box micro layout that used APA boxes. I have no idea what APA stands for,
Here it is

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Yeah, G'day James,

Your modular design is very similar to the following: http://www.krmodels.com.au/module.html

I'm thinking of using this very same design template for an 8'x1' shelf layout, but constructing it from lightweight foamboard (and, yes, this has already been done on at least one Australian layout: Brooklyn 3AM).

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Dorian,

Brooklyn 3AM happens to be where I got the idea for the design. That and the large micro layout website, carendt.com.

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 Posted: Mon Mar 3rd, 2014 05:37 pm
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Dorian--

After spending 5 minutes trying to find a trackplan in the link that you posted I finally gave up.

website!


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 Posted: Mon Mar 3rd, 2014 06:53 pm
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Nope, no track plan in that link. That is just showing the bench work design. Track plan and other information about Brooklyn 3 AM can be seen here:

http://www.carendt.com/scrapbook/page87/

One of the best scrapbook pages Carl Arendt ever put together in my opinion. Prof Klyzlr is a true master of his craft!

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 Posted: Mon Mar 3rd, 2014 07:34 pm
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Oppps ... one strike against my (and by the Administrator, no less). Sorry, 'bout that, Herb.

As James points out, the link was referencing the design particulars of constructing a monocoque module unit. (Suppose the problem lies with the rather flexible use of the term "module" when we talk about them.)

Sorry you thought the site was not worth the visit. Personally, I found it to be invaluable when considering the design of strong and lightweight bench work.

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 Posted: Mon Mar 3rd, 2014 08:10 pm
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Awww now, you just gotta know Herbie! Him & I are dinosaurs and rarely look at "modern ways" of doing things. I checked out that link and saw some great ideas for modular construction but sadly, none are similar to the way I do things. But then, I don't build modules, just pieces which may or may not fit together (without modifications). I don't know...but 2" blue foam sections sitting on top of camera tripods have lasted years outside, are lightweight and strong. But then maybe it's because I got an attitude! Yep, that's it...attitude.
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