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 Posted: Mon Mar 3rd, 2014 09:04 pm
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If the new addition fits, it's time to break out a cold one...

and if it doesn't, that's why we have duct tape!:dt::dt::dt:

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 Posted: Tue Mar 4th, 2014 09:52 pm
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Yup !! A Dino-sewer !! Dat be my excuse!

Truth is, just like Woodrow, I've been building layouts since nearly half way through the last century, and still use the the way that was standard back then. Works just fine for my needs. So I don't pay a lot of attention--er--I don't pay any attention-- to new ways to screw and glue wood together. If it ain't broke, fix it till it is.

I'm a card carrying Luddite, and dang proud of it.

But what I specifically didn't like about the website was the fact that I constantly found myself back at the start. Don't take it personal. Took quite some time, but I finally got Woodie to ignore what I say. Took several bottles of Wellers Scotch-----

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 Posted: Tue Mar 4th, 2014 11:35 pm
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Herb,

I fully agree, the site is (in parts) a navigational nightmare. I probably should have just linked directly to the Australian Model Rail-zine $100 module url rather than to the layout page.

Personally, have nothin' at all against dinosaurs (excepting the big, purple Barney). ;)

Anywho, didn't mean to hijack your thread, James.

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 Posted: Wed Mar 5th, 2014 12:51 am
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It was getting stagnant until you came along. I'm actually glad you posted otherwise there'd be nothing else to talk about. This railroad won't see much progress until I'm out of college for the summer and able to build the layout.

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W C Greene wrote:
But then maybe it's because I got an attitude! Yep, that's it...attitude.


I wonder... if someone's attitude was uppity, would it be an altitude? :)



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Uppatude.

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 Posted: Sun Apr 6th, 2014 03:42 am
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Okay everyone, time for an update.

While at Spring Break I had a chance to get my old trailer fixed up and the interior re-done. When the railroad is built, it will either be stored in the back of my truck or in the trailer. Since we all know what a pick-up bed looks like, I don't need to show photos of that. BUt just for laughs, here's the trailer:





This isn't a joke, that's actually my trailer. I use it for summer housing and winter storage. In Minnesota I call it an Ice fishing shack without holes, in South Dakota I call it a mobile storage unit; everyone else calls it an eyesore!

This will be the official trailer of the Bard Creek railroad, an all my other railroading projects. The interior measures 52" by 110", and the outside is 58" by 120". It's completely home built, but it has a title and a plate.

*On a side note I think I beat everyone else for the most ridiculous lace to put a railroad.:moose:*

With that said, I have to turn back to the railroad. The door is quite skinny, and in fact will only allow a 22" wide object through the door, so that meant a complete redesign of the railroad.

For the module dimensions, I can easily still fit multiple 8 foot modules in the trailer, and I can make the modules fairly tall too, but that means the width has to be shaven down a bit. So behold, my solution and hopefully the last rethink of the design before I begin construction:



I will start with two modules that are 8 foot long and 22 inches wide, I'l place them back to back and viola, I have a 44 inch by 96 inch railroad.

I'm sure everyone by now thinks I've lost my mind, because 44" for a loop of G scale track is very tight. But, the locomotives I own are all 0-4-0 type wheel configurations, and nearly all my rolling stock is two axle shorty cars, so the trains will run fine on the tight curves, as long as the couplers work, which means I might go to link and pin if I run into trouble.

One module will feature a creek and a small mine settled between towering cliffs, and the other side will feature part of a mining camp. The track leading off to the side will be where I have a large cassette to act as a fiddle yard and interchange. This is also the expansion point for the railroad.

Once I have space for a proper modular railroad in Fn3 scale, My plan is for this to become a traveling 13.7 scale railroad, and will be able to expand to include a yard, other mines, perhaps a full mining camp, and not to mention spectacular scenery. So I'm not giving up on the modular concept, I simply realized that there is no practical, and cheap way to store something that takes up a large amount of space.

By the time that comes around I hope to have a better truck, and a bigger trailer.

So any thoughts on the concept?

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 Posted: Sun Apr 6th, 2014 04:11 am
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And I forgot to mention this new desing will also be cheaper. I've further reduced my costs after I uncovered some old LGB cars I forgot I had. They look like this:



I used them in a similar fashion to log disconnets, but with a bit of modification and kitbashing, these cars will be great for the railroad. I have six of these, which means I might need to buy a couple Hartland Locomotive works cars to bring it to 8 cars. That would be about right for a small railroad like what I'm constructing.

Then I can throw money for some sort of control system. I was thinking about going for the Next Generation Revolution, using a battery car with the electronics in it.

That particular item is one of the few things to have survived the Closing of Aristo Craft trains, and since It's so popular in the large scale community, I don't see it going anywhere.

That also means.... No track power! :rah::rah::rah:

Which is the biggest headache large scale modelers have. I've battled dirty track on every railroad, so something like this is a relief. Then I can save further money by going with aluminum track. The only downside will be the necessity of batteries, but slow running on a layout like this won't be straining the batteries one bit, I'l probably need something like 2.4 Amp/hour or 3.6 Amp/hour batteries. With something like that on a locomotive which barely draws and amp during normal running, I can expect 3 hours of constant running.

Finally, I've also have a deadline. Much like Martin, I seem to produce good results when I have a deadline to work with.

There's the Granite City Train show in St. Cloud, MN, which is 190 miles away, so about 4 hours. That show is November 15th. It seems far, but I know the roads well, as well as a couple short cuts. It's a one day show, but the show is hugely popular, not to mention I used to attend the show before moving to South Dakota, so it'll be like going back to where the hobby began for me. The only thing that would stop me is the weather, which can get nasty in November, but usually doesn't get terrible.

The other show is in Sioux Falls, SD for the Trees and Trains exhibits festival. Pretty much everyone from Minneapolis to Rapid City will be attending the three day show, and I'm less than an hour away. That show is yet to be determined, but it is usually the weekend before thanksgiving.

Then there's all the spring shows...

But that is yet to be planned out. So my deadline is November 1st, and my start date is about May 10th. That leaves me with 25 weeks, working in between college duties, and work duties. Really this will be a challenge, because put together, I work as much as 60 hours a week between those two obligations, So I'm looking at maybe 12 hours a week of work average, giving me around 300 hours of work for this railroad. This work includes all the detailing, weathering, kit bashing, constructing that I want to do before the shows. Definitely doable, but a challenge none-the-less.

--James:java:

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 Posted: Sun Apr 6th, 2014 05:11 pm
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Who in the h**l would build a railroad in a trailer?



Like yours James, it has way too many wheels under it, but it might have a little more room inside.

And a pickup won't pull it

But have you ever seen a larger "portable" railroad container?

 Next time a 53"x102"   102" more handy than the extra 13" of length--but go with a reefer (insulated) and a side door, no matter what.

James- you could extend the width out over the wheels for a great increase in usable width.

We should have a "Railroads in Trailers forum at FreeRails  ------NO?


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 Posted: Sun Apr 6th, 2014 05:22 pm
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Herb, the difference between my crazy idea and your's is that my trailer, or three of them, could fit in 53 foot reefer:bg:

However, I must compliment you, that has to be one of the best ideas I've ever seen, using a 53 foot trailer to house a model railroad. If you happen to have a diesel unit to pull the trailer you could take it to shows. Forget set up, just park it and put some steps out for people to walk in.

The main reason I built my trailer so narrow is that the trailer is only 10 foot long and with a wheelbase of 68 inches, it isn't what you'd call stable. I made the box narrower than the wheels to keep the weight centered. Even in a cross wind, which I get plenty of out on the plains, the forces acting on the trailer push one side into the ground. If that force was applied outside the wheelbase the trailer would be picked up instead of forced down, resulting in a roll over. So essentially, the width was chosen for stability.

It's also not what you'd call aerodynamic. But it works and I never get over the looks people give me when I take it to a camp site. I don't think the KOA would ever let me join their camper club;)

With all that said, one day I do plan a rebuild, and perhaps I'll make it strictly a cargo trailer to haul around a modular railroad, but first I've got to have a steady job and a permanent place to live. Currently I have College apartment in the Winter and this in the Summer, so I'm quite mobile.

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