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 Posted: Sun Apr 6th, 2014 08:05 pm
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James, I spent last fall in a trailer not unlike yours, except it was built on a 20ft gooseneck frame and was so heavy a F-350 dually had a hard time pulling it around. We called it Melvin.

As a person who lives in a bedroll and lived in some pretty 'rustic' cow camps, have you considered making your trailer one side of a baker tent? Make the trailer the permanent dry storage/workshop with access to a canvas walled tent attached to a side of the trailer for living in.

Just throwing ideas out for another guy who is a vagobond model railroader...



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 Posted: Sun Apr 6th, 2014 08:15 pm
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Excellent idea, except I'm actually quite comfortable as it is. I plan to do something similar to woodie and have the layout be outside when in use, and either stored in the trailer or in the back of the pickup when not in use. But thanks for the idea, I'll keep it in mind.

I was thinking about using copper pipe and a tarp to make a sun shade. Since I'm going to be in the Badlands of South Dakota this summer, it will be a lot like death valley. good thing my work has air conditioning! (and my trailer)

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 Posted: Fri Apr 25th, 2014 03:28 am
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Time for a bit of an update.

As I reviewed the laws of physics, it struck me why the original design of having a "c" shape cross-section would be too unstable.

Well, I realized that if the layout framework was shallower than the backdrop supporting the overhang is tall, then leverage works in favor of the vertical supports.

Since the module has to fit within the trailer door opening of 22 inches, I re-thought my design so now I will have modules 22" deep with a backdrop 30" tall.

The diagram below isn't to scale, but everything is pretty closely proportional:



I'm certain this design will work, and should look good, AND should be relatively light weight.

The track will be no less than 4 inches from the backdrop wall or from the front of the display. Subtract that and the 2 inch thick vertical supports and that gives the track 12" of space to play with (front of display to the back of the display). The reason for the 4" rule is so that trains won't fall off the display or scratch up the backdrop if they ever derail. Also, that allows for building flats and vegetation between the tracks and the backdrop while allowing a similar amount of room in front for the same stuff. The overall effect of having scenery both in front and behind the trains should make the scene feel deeper, fuller, and more realistic.

Now the only problem with this is that to have an oval within these confines means having 30" diameter curves. It's doable, but won't look right. So this display might end up being what is called a "Part time oval" which is essentially a switching layout that can have curve sections added to it and a straight section along the back to make an oval when at a show, but will be a switching layout most of the time.

I think this could work and I am finally satisfied with the design.

Construction to begin in three weeks!

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 Posted: Tue May 6th, 2014 04:16 am
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Only one more week before construction begins!

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 Posted: Sat May 24th, 2014 06:03 am
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CONSTRUCTION BEGINS!!!!!!!

Yep, I finally was able to get a start the Clear Creek project this week, with today having my first real progress. I tried several different designs for the module, to see which fit the best...

And I found that the first design was the best of all for weight, to size, to practicality. I've also pretty much threw out the idea of modular pieces, instead I've decided on a sectional layout which will start small, but I can add to it at any time. So sorry for anyone who was hoping for a true modular layout in Fn3, but this design suits me best so I have to go with that. I will still explore other option for the benefit of anyone following the blog.

Today I got the basic frame for the first section done, and and I also marked where the track will go on this section Finally, I also glued down and roughly cut out the foam board base. Costs so far are running about $50 for each module ($10 in lumber, $40 in foam board). I think I'll be doing pretty good if I can keep my budget to around $100 a module for scenery, buildings, and track. I'm not buying anything pre-built or kit built, I'm scratch building and scrounging for most materials. Shout out to Joey Ricard, I'm re-watching some of his youtube videos and will be trying some of his techniques. Just thought I should give credit where it's due.

Anyway, I'll shut up now and let the photos speak for themselves:






I'll have more tomorrow as I take a look at buildings and pictures of Forks Creek via an Internet database I found of C&S photos.

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 Posted: Sat Jul 19th, 2014 05:30 pm
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Completely forgot about updates with work and school yanking me from the trains. I'll be posting updates on the last 2 months of progress very soon. I'm currently at the stage of laying track, with ground cover being laid down as well.

Sorry for the lack of posts:doh::doh::doh:

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 Posted: Fri Sep 5th, 2014 06:51 am
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Hi James

Great start.
you don't see many large scale layouts especially in the UK we don't have the room and end up in the garden.

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Lookin' good James !

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 Posted: Wed Sep 17th, 2014 03:23 am
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Okay, yes, updates, still got to get on that. First work now school's in the way. When will the vicious cycle end? Probably when I'm 6 feet underground.

Anyway, I had a couple questions about motive power...

It seems to me that with the tight turns, and light rail; larger locomotives weren't allowed up Clear Creek. The B class 2-8-0's seem too big. That leaves the smaller 2-6-0 moguls to the task of running on clear creek correct? And of those locomotives, only engine #9 seems to have survived to the present day. Where is #9 currently at? I'd love to take pictures of her and get more information.

In large scale, the Bachmann 2-6-0 doesn't look right to me, it doesn't have the correct profile (boiler is too small, cab is too high up, wrong front end, etc... In fact, it looks like the old LGB moguls are the only thing out there that resemble the 2-6-0 locomotives. Any other manufacturers of 2-6-0's in G scale?

Finally, rolling stock. Was it mostly 30 ft cars? It would appear so, since the surviving Georgetown Loop has a curve with only a 300' diameter!

Any help, links, or sources would be appreciated.
Thanks!
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 Posted: Wed Sep 24th, 2014 10:54 am
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No 9 is, or was supposed to be, plinthed at Breckenridge CO. But I can't find any photos of it in situ.

Baldwin Class B-4-E lightweight Consolidateds were used on the Clear Creek.
Only 19,848 lbs tractive effort so 4 cars max on steep grades.

I don't know what $$ a second hand Bachmann G Mogul would cost - perhaps worth butchering one to suit ??. Cut the boiler fittings off & roll a new boiler or suitable diam pipe ?.


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